Fayetteville, AR
For God's sake, will somebody please shoot this horse. Everyone has supported their team. Both mod makers are at the top of their game. These guys are the best. Can we not call a draw.
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Jersey Jack, 2013
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Quoted from jamesdeloris:For God's sake, will somebody please shoot this horse. Everyone has supported their team. Both mod makers are at the top of their game. These guys are the best. Can we not call a draw.
Amen.
Quoted from jamesdeloris:For God's sake, will somebody please shoot this horse. Everyone has supported their team. Both mod makers are at the top of their game. These guys are the best. Can we not call a draw.
Okay. But we're shooting yours first.
Quoted from coasterguy:If this statement was true then why do you feel the need to keep bringing his work up in this and other threads about how its way over priced. I think your back peddling at this point. Just own up that you've been harsh and rude about it and move on. Nobody cares really. But Matt's friends are going to back him up on his work effort and talents.
First of all, it's "backpedaling," and second, that's not what I'm doing at all. I think the walls look cool, appreciate the talent/effort made in designing them, never said differently, and yes, I think they are way overpriced and won't be buying them for that reason.
Moving on....
I think some people are missing the point here . Your not just paying for the mod your paying for the artist to create it . Matt does great work and this is a nice opportunity for people to buy an upgrade from the artist that did a lot of the models for the game itself . Also these are mods , not necessities (you can play the game without them ) so if you don't like the price don't buy them . But again it is nice of Matt to make these upgrades for the people that do want to spend the money to get a custom piece made by the artist that made parts for a game that they like . Maybe Matt should invite some people over to watch him create some of these mods , I highly doubt they would think they are overpriced when they see the work that goes into making them .
Quoted from StevenP:I think they are way overpriced and won't be buying them for that reason.
I would say that most mods are getting a little high priced for what you get. But I'm an idiot and bought both sets! I sure hope they both fit! 
Quoted from StevenP:First of all, it's "backpedaling," and second, that's not what I'm doing at all. I think the walls look cool, appreciate the talent/effort made in designing them, never said differently, and yes, I think they are way overpriced and won't be buying them for that reason.
Moving on....
Again, you have said this about 100 times in several threads that's the point. Just move on. Nobody really cares. Pins are overpriced too! 
Relax everybody. We all waited several months for this mod to be ready. Some just need to let off some sticker shock steam.
For people deciding between these two, take a close look at the stills from the film. Back alley's walls are MUCH closer to the originals in the movies, if that matters to you.
Quoted from LTG:This is Matt's project, not JJP's. JJP has a past history of throwing bones on things they made. Invisiglass sales for example.
LTG : )™
JJP didn't have Matt do these for the 75th?
That's the part I'm wondering. I'll just wait and see if they figure out a more efficient (and cheaper) process of making them when 1000 RRLEs are on the line. If not, no walls for me. To put in perspective, the $5 fans I just installed on the flipper coils will make the machine much more enjoyable than $225 decorative walls. To each their own... no more flipper fade after mega multiballs!
Quoted from metallik:That's the part I'm wondering. I'll just wait and see if they figure out a more efficient (and cheaper) process of making them when 1000 RRLEs are on the line. If not, no walls for me. To put in perspective, the $5 fans I just installed on the flipper coils will make the machine much more enjoyable than $225 decorative walls. To each their own... no more flipper fade after mega multiballs!
There's actually 1500 RRLE's according to Pinballnews. That comes out to $337,500 worth of castle walls if purchased at the $225 price!
Quoted from metallik:That's the part I'm wondering. I'll just wait and see if they figure out a more efficient (and cheaper) process of making them when 1000 RRLEs are on the line. If not, no walls for me. To put in perspective, the $5 fans I just installed on the flipper coils will make the machine much more enjoyable than $225 decorative walls. To each their own... no more flipper fade after mega multiballs!
interesting I didn't know that, what fans did you use? do you have a pic you could show us thanks
Quoted from metallik:That's the part I'm wondering. I'll just wait and see if they figure out a more efficient (and cheaper) process of making them when 1000 RRLEs are on the line. If not, no walls for me. To put in perspective, the $5 fans I just installed on the flipper coils will make the machine much more enjoyable than $225 decorative walls. To each their own... no more flipper fade after mega multiballs!
Fans?? Are your flippers getting mushy ala LOTR?
They don't get mushy, but they do change over the course of a long intense game... shot timing alters because they do weaken a bit. I pressed my finger against the plunger after a 1M game and it was painful to hold it there for more than a few seconds. This isn't a WOZ issue... I've had to add fans to my Tron and AFM to keep the flippers more consistent, and STLE and LOTR are getting them soon. LOTR has Terry's coils, but while they can always make the ring, they also change over the course of a long game. Games with lots of flipping and strong flipper coils/programming just can't dissipate the heat quickly enough.
I'll get pic later.. all I did was cut a .75" wide strip of metal about 4" long and attached the fan down one side, gave the end a 90deg bend and drilled it so I could piggyback it to the flipper mount plate.
Quoted from Quietmouse:For people deciding between these two, take a close look at the stills from the film. Back alley's walls are MUCH closer to the originals in the movies, if that matters to you.
Not sure what you are talking about. Look at the pics I posted just a page earlier in this thread of the castle from the movie. Where in the movie do you see the castle made of cinderblock like a medieval castle?? Neither are authentic to the movie. Of course, the trees look little like the trees in the movie, and the witch bares little resemblance to the wicked witch in the movie too. So it's all good.
I got confirmation of my payment from PayPal but got nothing from Back Alley. Anyone get a confirmation?
Quoted from beelzeboob:Hey, Matt! Any idea when these will ship? Let us know if you have an ETA...thanks
Working on them as we speak, poured a ton of resin over the past few days, been sanding and drilling all day today and tomorrow. Things are moving along well.
The plan is still on track for shipping towards the end of the month, around the end of next week 
Thanks again
Quoted from txstargazer3:I got confirmation of my payment from PayPal but got nothing from Back Alley. Anyone get a confirmation?
My site is not set up to automatically send out confirmations of orders. If you got a paypal confirmation then all is well
But if anyone would like to confirm please feel free to e-mail or PM just to double check.
Jim got ur order
Thanks again
Abbotsford, BC
Quoted from CraZ4Pin:Not sure what you are talking about. Look at the pics I posted just a page earlier in this thread of the castle from the movie. Where in the movie do you see the castle made of cinderblock like a medieval castle?? Neither are authentic to the movie. Of course, the trees look little like the trees in the movie, and the witch bares little resemblance to the wicked witch in the movie too. So it's all good.
I think he's referring to the coloring rather than the style of the walls, but the others have been darkened now, not much difference anymore!Modfather Castle Walls Darker.jpgBAC Castle Walls.jpg
Quoted from BackAlleyMatt:Working on them as we speak, poured a ton of resin over the past few days, been sanding and drilling all day today and tomorrow. Things are moving along well.
The plan is still on track for shipping towards the end of the month, around the end of next week
Thanks again
Thanks for update Matt....
Yeah...sorry for jumping the gun, Matt. You did say that before and in my excitement over getting them I just forgot. Carry on and I'll shut up.
Thanks Matt. I know all of us who ordered would rather have you spending your time working on the mods instead of sending out emails. Thanks for the feedback.
Quoted from dgpinball:I think he's referring to the coloring rather than the style of the walls, but the others have been darkened now, not much difference anymore!
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There's not, but I see a BIG difference in looks.
I installed awhile back Mezelmods tornado because I liked the fact it was lit up.
Will Matts tornado fit in the game along with Mezelmods? 2 tornados might be cool?
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Just wanted to let everyone know that has purchased a WOZ mod, that they are done.
Except for the those of you who placed an order in the last 3 days. Those will go out mid week (thurs)
Big Thanks to everyone that placed and order and supported my product.
Thanks again, Matt
Quoted from BackAlleyMatt:Just wanted to let everyone know that has purchased a WOZ mod, that they are done.
Except for the those of you who placed an order in the last 3 days. Those will go out mid week (thurs)
Big Thanks to everyone that placed and order and supported my product.
Thanks again, Matt
Hooray!!!....thanks Matt....a project for next weekend!!!....
Quoted from Pimp77:There's not, but I see a BIG difference in looks.
Agreed, Matt's are the better looking of the 2, but the price difference is substantial.
Tornado install, will make a better video and list on my website in the am, but here is original link:
Step to install
Butt up the bracket on the tornado with the bracket for the switch on the ramp.
Take a marker and dot the holes
Drill out the holes
Install provided screws and locking nuts
**note, that the tornado can be mounted under the current switch plate but it is difficult to install it this way unless u have super tiny magnetic fingers But if you do not want to drill 2 holes in the ramp it can be done, up to you***
I will have instructions on my website in the AM, (links above for now)
Was so focused on finishing everyones parts that I forgot to run out and make an install video
Also we did run into 1 small problem
I will be mailing everyone a replacement screw for the right side wall closest to the witch tube.
The screw that came with the mod to screw into the hex spacer is 3/8in long, it needs to be 3/16in long. I have just ordered replacement screws, they will be here on friday and I will mail everyone 1 screw out on sat in the am.
Sorry about the wrong size screw, I was working off a proto game and didn't realize the difference in size. None the less not having the correct length screw will not hold u up from installing it. The part will not fall off or effect game play so please feel free to install it right away til the replacement screw arrives.
Once again sorry about the wrong size and thanks to all for the continued support
Quoted from Leechman:I would say that most mods are getting a little high priced for what you get. But I'm an idiot and bought both sets! I sure hope they both fit!
I agree. I would love to get a set of Matts walls but I just can't justify coughing up that much money for a mod. Maybe when I get a chance I will build my own set.
Matt,
Thank you for installation videos on here it will help me when I get mine. You make great products, but that horrible SFX have to go. It drives me away from your website. I can't turn the audio down quick enough on my computer. 
Quoted from VegasAlleycat:Matt, do you have any other mods in the works? How about the munchkin huts?
I agree.
I think the munchkin huts look really cheap compared to the rest of the playfield.
Quoted from indypinhead:I agree.
I think the munchkin huts look really cheap compared to the rest of the playfield.
But still way better than most secondary Stern pf plastic toys. It's not an off-the-shelf generic toy and fits in well with the playfield area and theme. I don't think it looks cheap at all, to be honest.
Quoted from StevenP:But still way better than most secondary Stern pf plastic toys. It's not an off-the-shelf generic toy and fits in well with the playfield area and theme.
But they are keeping Hasbro in business.
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