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Aztec Owners Club (Not a Pyramid Scheme)


By wizard_mode

3 years ago



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#1 3 years ago

I love my Aztec. It is my only EM and I seem to play it as much as whatever newer games are next to it in my lineup. Once I got the spinner spinning correctly, I just cannot get enough of that thing!
It seems like this machine is popular, so I figured I would start a group to discuss all things Aztec. If there is anyone else out there, let's discuss!

#2 3 years ago

It's a great game. I'm looking for a nice copy if anyone has a decent working game for sale

#3 3 years ago

I enjoy my Aztec. Also my only EM. My favorite is when the ball goes from the catapult to the pop bumper repeatedly. 12 cycles best to date. I need to get the parts and rebuild the flippers and coil sleeves for the rest of it.

#4 3 years ago
Quoted from bayoubilly70:

It's a great game. I'm looking for a nice copy if anyone has a decent working game for sale

Just sold mine Monday, guy is picking it up tomorrow.
I'm more of a Bally guy I think...... but wow, Aztec is one fast EM with the DC pop bumpers. I will miss it but had to clear up space for freshly restored projects.

#5 3 years ago

I love my Aztec
Best shot is a lot spinner
Bzzzzinggggg

#6 3 years ago

Only thing Aztec that I have is a set of schematics for the solid state version. Kinda cool but not really something I have a use for.
If anybody wants them I'd be interested in selling at $100 shipped.

-Hans

#7 3 years ago

Here is mine right now in mid-shop state. Anyone ever LED an Aztec? I figure the GI would be ok but how about the inserts? Also, what is up with the rubber rings under the bumper caps? They supposed to be there?

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#8 3 years ago

I have both aztec the pinball, and aztec the ball bowler. love both of them.

#9 3 years ago

I should post something here since I can't imagine that anyone else has three, count 'em, three Aztecs.

I acquired Aztec 1 here in Tucson from an arcade vendor. Even though I got it for $50 less than offered, I still overpaid for it. The backbox was wobbly and I thought that it would come crashing down at any moment. The chimes clunked. The backglass had been badly retouched and still had large areas missing. The mechs were filthy. The playfield was the worst part. There was a large area missing, worn to the wood, between and just above the flippers. I spent more than two months fixing this one up. I just fixed one of the last problems, player 1 getting extra balls, just this week. The only problem left to fix is the match lights not working.

Retouching the artwork was quite a challenge. I'm not that artistic, so it took a lot of time and effort to get it right.

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Aztec 2 came from Phoenix and was in much better shape. The playfield is nice but the backglass is missing large areas of artwork.

Aztec 3 also came from Phoenix and except for the backglass which is the best of the three still is bad enough to need a repro. It is the most complete EM with the nicest playfield I have purchased. It came complete with a backbox door, original Williams coin box with lid plus manual and schematics.

Why three Aztecs, you may ask. You may ask! This is the fastest EM I have played. I just laugh sometimes when the pinball goes screaming by on the 5+ coats of clear and past my flippers! The spinner is a rush to get when lit for 1000 points. I couldn't turn them down for the prices I paid and I know they will be great players again one day when I am done with them.

I wonder if BGresto gives discounts for three backglasses in one order?

Yep, Aztec is a fun game - overlooked and underrated by the uninformed. That's fine with me.

#10 3 years ago
Quoted from wizard_mode:

Anyone ever LED an Aztec?

I have done a complete led job on mine
I used retro's for the gi though
I have also done it in yellow rubber
It looks great to me

#11 3 years ago
Quoted from Stretch7:

I have done a complete led job on mine
I used retro's for the gi though
I have also done it in yellow rubber
It looks great to me

Thanks. Any issues with ghosting or flickering for the inserts?

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from Pecos:

I should post something here since I can't imagine that anyone else has three, count 'em, three Aztecs.
I acquired Aztec 1 here in Tucson from an arcade vendor. Even though I got it for $50 less than offered, I still overpaid for it. The backbox was wobbly and I thought that it would come crashing down at any moment. The chimes clunked. The backglass had been badly retouched and still had large areas missing. The mechs were filthy. The playfield was the worst part. There was a large area missing, worn to the wood, between and just above the flippers. I spent more than two months fixing this one up. I just fixed one of the last problems, player 1 getting extra balls, just this week. The only problem left to fix is the match lights not working.
Retouching the artwork was quite a challenge. I'm not that artistic, so it took a lot of time and effort to get it right.

Aztec 2 came from Phoenix and was in much better shape. The playfield is nice but the backglass is missing large areas of artwork.
Aztec 3 also came from Phoenix and except for the backglass which is the best of the three still is bad enough to need a repro. It is the most complete EM with the nicest playfield I have purchased. It came complete with a backbox door, original Williams coin box with lid plus manual and schematics.
Why three Aztecs, you may ask. You may ask! This is the fastest EM I have played. I just laugh sometimes when the pinball goes screaming by on the 5+ coats of clear and past my flippers! The spinner is a rush to get when lit for 1000 points. I couldn't turn them down for the prices I paid and I know they will be great players again one day when I am done with them.
I wonder if BGresto gives discounts for three backglasses in one order?
Yep, Aztec is a fun game - overlooked and underrated by the uninformed. That's fine with me.

Pecos nice job on that PF painting BTW! 3 Aztecs? SWEET!

#13 3 years ago

I mentioned this on another thread as well. While I am shopping my Aztec, I am repainting and decaling my spinning target. I printed a full sheet of decals as shown below. If anyone wants a set of decals, PM me your address and I will ship you some.

#14 3 years ago

I too love my Aztec. It was the first game I ever got (over 25 years ago), and I still have it and still love playing it.

Dropped some colored incandescents and some LEDs in the playfield to liven up a few of the milk-white inserts.

I found a 1950's National Geographic book on Native cultures in the Americas and found the art from the backglass was taken (copied exactly) from a couple of the book's illustrations.

Oh yes, that spinner shot. Damn it's fun and so, so fast.

Don C.

#15 3 years ago
Quoted from HHaase:

Only thing Aztec that I have is a set of schematics for the solid state version. Kinda cool but not really something I have a use for.
If anybody wants them I'd be interested in selling at $100 shipped.
-Hans

Here's the playfield to go with those schematics:

ebay.com link » Rare 1976 Williams Solid State Aztec Pinball Machine Playfield Fully Populated

Looks just like my Aztec playfields except for the connectors. Okay, the pop bumper caps are different too! $425 is a hefty price to pay for different connectors and white pop bumper caps!

#16 3 years ago

The art for Aztec BG was 'borrowed' from a book called "Indians of the Americas" published by National Geographic in 1955 (the book is one year older than me!). The artist is H. M. Herget, the style is classic mid fifties Natgeo. The people at Ad Posters and other graphics houses that the pinball industry used played fast and loose with copyrights back in the day. (Some European games rip off Frank Frazetta in the 80s) The main priest is flipped along the vertical, and some colors were changed. The two guards are flipped and placed behind the priest. In the background, the wall, boat and guy peeping over the platform are copied. The tied up lady was added for subtle but kinky sexiness! (She seems surprisingly relaxed...) Nothing like her in the book.

The book itself is a mishmash of stereotypes and cultural attitudes prevalent at the time; along the lines of "yes, we wiped out these great civilizations, but it's OK because later we built a clinic on a reservation and some Indians work building skyscrapers, so we are all good, right? Look at the colorfully dressed dancers entertaining the tourists!"

Don C.

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#17 2 years ago

Just got an Aztec over Easter weekend. I've never restored a pin before but can't wait to get this running!

#18 2 years ago

I have a story about Aztec, my friend squired one for free when he helped someone move. It was working for a while then had some issues probably from non usage. He asked me if I wanted it but I had no room. I tried to convince him to get it fixed but finally I asked if I could donate it to where I work at Little Flower a respite treatment center for children with disabilities. He agreed so I got help from work and delivered it. I had a local guy Mike repair it on the cheap and the kids and staff love it! They are now talking about getting more pins for the Rec room.

#19 2 years ago
Quoted from Red77:

Just got an Aztec over Easter weekend. I've never restored a pin before but can't wait to get this running!

Congrats on your acquisition. It's a fun one for sure! I made some waterslide decals of the spinner art. If you would like a set, just pm me your address and I will send it over.

#20 2 years ago
Quoted from wizard_mode:

Congrats on your acquisition. It's a fun one for sure! I made some waterslide decals of the spinner art. If you would like a set, just pm me your address and I will send it over.

Much appreciated! Mine are not in the best of shape. PM sent.

#21 2 years ago
Quoted from Pecos:

Here's the playfield to go with those schematics:
ebay.com link » Rare 1976 Williams Solid State Aztec Pinball Machine Playfield Fully Populated
Looks just like my Aztec playfields except for the connectors. Okay, the pop bumper caps are different too! $425 is a hefty price to pay for different connectors and white pop bumper caps!

That playfield is odd. It will not match the schematics that Hans (or I) have; that's for sure.

From the looks of the screw holes in the back of that eBay playfield, it MAY at one time have been in prototype of some sorts. But was then completely re-wired with System 3 harness pieces. (my guess)

The "real" Aztec (and at least one Argosy I know of) prototypes, had System 1 MPU's, with all sorts of fun little driver boards, and lamp & solenoid driver packages mounted to the playfield. Those boards & devices are what match the official Williams System 1 schematics.

Picture of the underside of mine: http://www.racepainter.com/temp/aztec/pages/IMG_1390.htm

(the various prototype boards do seem to line up with the empty holes in that eBay playfield... but are missing)

#22 2 years ago

I've had my Aztec for over 30 years... Great machine... I always thought the stock playfield lighting was a bit dark, so I added some of those fire LEDs to liven up the playfield.

https://www.cometpinball.com/product-p/fire.htm

I always wondered how many Aztecs they made with yellow bumper caps and red bumper caps. I've seen many Aztecs over the years with yellow, red and white flippers. Did Williams build them with all three flipper colors?

#23 2 years ago

mine has yellow on it, and the spare PF i have has red... go figure

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#24 2 years ago

Hey guys so excited! I just recently got my Aztec back that I sold to a co-worker 6 years ago. Wow I didn't realize how much he hacked the machine while he had it. Anyway I'm having fun working on it with my dad. We have the playfield stripped and are going to clear it and then do a few touch ups and clear it again. I am looking for a few parts for mine if anyone might have? I'm looking for the two slingshot plastics ( the right more than left as it's missing ). Also looking for a couple cool stops for the score digits and one bracket for the same thing. And as a bonus if anyone has some used flipper buttons mine has cigarette burns (I know Steve Young has those but since trying to find everything else used might as well ask).

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#25 1 year ago

So... I guess I'm in the club. The picture below is my 'new' Aztec. It's waiting to be picked up and transported from the second hand store that I discovered it in to my home.

The reason why it's on wheels is very interesting: this pinball machine is famous! Aztec's owner before it came to the second hand store was the Dutch Opera and Ballet in Amsterdam (https://www.operaballet.nl/en). It's had multiple stage appearances.

Tommy was obviously the first title that appeared in my mind, although I'm not sure if that play has ever been performed at the opera house. That, and this machine still has its backglass. Anyhow: I hope it has overcome it's stage fright and will soon sing again.
behind the screens

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#26 1 year ago

Looking for a nice aztec if anyone has any leads please let me know.

Mike

2 months later
#27 1 year ago
Quoted from fredsmythson:

I always wondered how many Aztecs they made with yellow bumper caps and red bumper caps. I've seen many Aztecs over the years with yellow, red and white flippers. Did Williams build them with all three flipper colors?

The arch at the top of the playfield comes in different colors as well. I've seen them in blue and in white. My Aztec, which has a fairly early serial number, has a white top arch. Like the one in the flyer. Most Aztecs I've seen have a blue one.

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#28 1 year ago

Just bought an Aztec as my first ever machine. Totally love how fast it plays! It’s currently set up to award the first free replay at 180K which I will need to raise at some point. Some of the inserts are starting to cup a wee bit so if anyone has an advice on these I’d welcome it gladly.

#29 1 year ago

Had to sell my Aztec after fixing it up. Nice game for sure, just not a keeper for me. The guy that bought it couldn't be happier. As you can see, mine had a white top arch. The serial number indicates that it is an early production machine.

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#30 5 months ago

Joined the club recently and I'm pretty happy.

I need some plastics, but they're pretty difficult to find. The pinball rescue guys in Australia said they would do a run, but they would need a commitment for 10 sets. Does anyone want to get in on a run?

#31 4 months ago
Quoted from WhiskeyTango:

Joined the club recently and I'm pretty happy.
I need some plastics, but they're pretty difficult to find. The pinball rescue guys in Australia said they would do a run, but they would need a commitment for 10 sets. Does anyone want to get in on a run?

Count me in!

#32 4 months ago
Quoted from Liftserv:

Count me in!

Current List:
whiskeytango
liftserv

We still need 8 more. If we get close enough, I'll buy an extra set or two to get the count to 10.

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#33 4 months ago

If you want a set, please go here and let them know.

http://www.pinballrescue.net/Requests.html

#34 4 months ago

Im getting an Aztec in a package deal tomorrow. if anyone is interested, please let me know. Im not an EM guy so its cheap

#35 4 months ago
Quoted from pinplayerinva:

Im getting an Aztec in a package deal tomorrow. if anyone is interested, please let me know. Im not an EM guy so its cheap

lol.. these are never close to me.

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