He also asked that you let me give you some money for a R&M pre-order, please.

That's a great idea, thank you for the suggestion. I think I'm a bit more limited being in Canada though.

What is a butter cabinet?

greenhornet I have purchased Pre-order spot #434 if you want to add me in over foobeer.

I’m #434 and estimated around end of January/February.

So maybe end of March for you?

Did you buy it second hand or from Spooky? I thought this game was around $7500USD, which is around $10k CAD?

How long do you have to pay the invoice from Spooky once it's issued?

I didn’t see the topper in the indexed options post. Is that selectable with other options?

If so, what’s the price?

Got the build sheet for #434 on Sunday, so hopefully that helps find your timing in line.

LOL, $72.30 shipping fee for one of these to Canada. Outrageous!

When was your invoice issued?

Unless you're reviewing powder coat coloring, the point is moot as they're the same exact game under the glass.

Count me in for one to Canada please!

It means he has an uncle that works for Nintendo, who's brother works for Adult Swim, who was told by the janitor at Spooky that they cut some corners on the production of the game.

Seems reasonable to me.

Jesus! Is this the fault of bad design or poor quality control?

I’m expecting my game in a few weeks and I’m not looking forward to tinkering for a full work week worth of hours

Thanks for the vid!

Can you expand on the lighting you added? It looks bright and fantastic. Is this a substitute for pinstadiums?

I agree that it’s a shame people use this thread as a sounding board for their issues and complaints, especially when they direct them at spooky employees specifically.

However, I disagree because where else would owners vent their frustrations? And unlike other companies, Spooky actually has a presence here, taking feedback, and answering questions, which they’ve been applauded for on many occasions. As long as it’s constructive, I wouldn’t classify it as whining and is totally welcome.

The pinside data will be grossly overinflated due to all those that are flipping their pre-order spots or flipping the machine in general, having never even played it.

#434 should be shipping out today or tomorrow. No idea how long it'll actually take to make it out west.

*Canadians - Heads up about some fees and taxes that would have been nice to know about ahead of time.

You will be expected to pay the import and GST charges prior to shipment. For some reason I assumed this was included in the cost of shipping on the initial invoice. Cost about $535CAD just to get it across the border.

Since I had to purchase my pre-order spot off another Pinsider for the opportunity to purchase this machine, it has ended up costing a lot more than I expected @ $13,100 CAD for a non-butter cabinet. Holy shit that number hurts to type out.

For the theme alone, I'm guessing it'll be with me until the bitter end. I hope I'm correct!

$450 USD plus border fee's and Canadian taxes.

#434 arrived today. Too wide to get in the door due to the top and bottom cardboard ends, so we had to unbox in the garage. Not a problem, but something for future owners to consider.

Girlfriend fired it up to play a game before cleanup. Not a great first impression so far.

Game killed and restarted itself on the second ball.

Audio is completely absent during cutscenes like multi-ball and the final match sequence.

The rattling glass is insane. The only way to keep this from happening out of the box is to keep the volume at 3, at which point the game is inaudible over the box fan running full blast inside the machine.

Also, the lock bar doesn’t seem to want to actually latch down without a significant amount of force. I tried to have a look of there was anything impeding it but can’t see anything that would cause it. Once it’s latched, it sticks up considerably. I’m not sure if that’s the design or if something is off.

Admittedly this is a post in frustration after a long afternoon of getting it downstairs and set up. Also, is this heavier than stern games, because those were cakewalks compared to this beast.

Most of these can be resolved either by code updates or me dumping more money into mods, but I assumed I’d be able to enjoy this for at least a few weeks without the extra mods.

Still excited to experience the joy, eventually.

Does this look correct?

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This is the max it’ll go. Used PinGuy app to make sure it was level at 6.5 pitch.

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No everything looked and looks great, aside for the the cabinet under the lockdown bar.

Okay, so I lowered the front legs completely and lowered the back to be 6.5 in the middle of the playfield. Glass slides in perfectly after that. That doesn't make any sense to me, but okay. I tend to like the front legs up as high as the pitch will allow due to my height, but I guess I'll have to keep these all the way to the ground.

This also muted the glass rattling quite a bit so that it's playable now, but still an issue to resolve with some tape.

Thank you everyone for your willingness to help so quickly, it saved me a lot of grief.

Some other issues that I'm sure have been addressed somewhere earlier in the thread:

- I can't seem to flip a ball on the fly as the flipper gets pushed down upon impact? Is this an issue because of the bushings or is there an adjustment I should make?

- Left flipper button activates the flipper with a light breeze. I know I probably need to adjust the leaf switch, but do I need a leaf switch tool for this, or I can I just bend it manually?

Yes it is. Is this something to be concerned over? Every other aspect of the cabinet seems fine so far.

What pitch is yours set at?

I saw 6.9 key posted, but that seemed like a meme response, so I’m at 6.5 currently.

Has anyone made adjustments to the Beth, Summer, and Jerry targets?

They seem incredibly stiff and tough to activate outside of a direct hit. The foam backing on them is very thick.

Also what gameplay purpose does the Rick target serve other than a leaderboard mention?

I debated posting this as it's another negative take on this game from me, but this is the owners thread and I'm an owner and just need to vent and give my first week thoughts.

I've put about 100 games in since receiving last week and I'm annoyed by a lot of things on this machine, especially those requiring extra money to fix:

1. Air balls off the left and right ramps. One protector for the upper part of the right ramp, and two protectors needed for the entrances of each. - $34USD
2. Flippers losing strength incredibly fast, even outside of multi-balls. If I play for 10 minutes outside of a multi-ball, I am unable to backhand the right ramp. Aftermarket cooling solution is now needed. - $115-170USD (2-3 flipper kit)
3. The stock fan is AGGRESSIVELY loud and high-pitched. - $17USD
4. Leg protectors to protect the cabinet from its own legs. I had a January build and this is still a problem with the legs. - $10USD.

Total = $176-231USD - Good for PinMonk and other modders (Thank you), bad for me.

Add this on to the growing list of aftermarket adjustments that are needed after receiving it.

1. The garage shot from the upper flipper may as well not exist on my machine. Maybe the upper flipper isn't situated correctly, but it looks to be in line with the ball guide as mentioned in key posts.
2. The character standup targets are basically dead from the factory and needed to be adjusted to be more sensitive to hits.
3. The flipper switches needed adjustment to prevent drooping when hit.
4. The right loop garage shot was essentially half-closed by an open ball guide that needed to be bent to even make the shot.
5. The scoop rejects 3/5 times. I've bent the top down bit, but still need to place washers underneath to lower it into the playfield.
6. Flippers are way too high off the playfield (is this causing issues with all my shots?). Thankfully, Spooky is doing the right thing and sending replacements out to those in need.

If everything is working and you happen to have just started a game with fresh flipper strength, it can be very addictive and truly has that "one more game" feeling to it, even with all the frustrations. I'm still happy to have it, will likely be with me for a very long time, and can't wait for future updates.

I thought they would be too, but the legs were still touching the cabinet on the front, so I ordered some felt protectors to prevent damage.

Oh God, I forgot about these too. $50USD shooter rail that "Isn't needed" but seriously, the current one sucks. I also bought an extra ship plastic for the inevitable break.

Basically, both garage shots are unreliable which almost breaks the game. Even if you shoot it clean you're still hoping it doesn't wobble and reject.

I keep running back to play it after I comment to make sure I'm not just caught in a streak of bad luck. Each time I'm met with the same frustrations no matter how well I play.

The fact is, those two shots already require a very precise and clean shot to make. Add in these other factors and you might rip your hair out.

Well said. Thank you for saying exactly what I like about this game, but didn’t have time to write out.

How much was it for 4 switches?

So, what I'm hearing is, it isn't an issue until it's an issue?

Looks like the art blade on the left side of my machine was attached too high and is now peeling with pressure from the glass. Removing the glass relieves pressure and I'm able to push the sticker down more and curve it slightly over the lip, however inserting the glass causes the sticker to remove itself again.

Any ideas how to resolve this in the cleanest way beyond removing and reapplying the art blade?

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Great idea, thank you! So simple and I never would've thought of that.

My scoop is shooting straight down the middle roughly 1/4 times. How can I counter this if it's not consistent?

Unfortunately, adjusting in either direction doesn't fix it. Thanks for the suggestion!

My pop bumper has died suddenly. It registers hits, but the coil isn't firing during games or in the coil test. Anything I can do/try aside from asking Spooky to replace it?

Yup you were right. Wire snapped off the solder point. I guess I'll need to go buy a soldering iron. It was inevitable, really.

Thank you!

If this wasn't a Rick & Morty theme it would have been out of my collection months ago. I just spent another $45 fixing this game on some 3D printed flipper spacers from a community member.

It's actually a fantastic/addictive design for a game (with exception to the top-right orbit entrance...), and since I've dialed this thing in, I've been having a blast with it. It's just a shame the manufacturer issues have marred an otherwise fantastic release.

Now, speaking of the theme. I'm wondering if anyone knows why the "Goodbye Moonmen" mode/song is only 30 seconds long? Was this a licensing issue? The full song is a glorious 2:18 long:

. We got the full schwifty song, why not this one?

Also, I see that the Jerry dimension was added in the last update, but one of the best quotes from the show "My Man!" was removed! Licensing issues again?

I really hope this is true.

C'mon man. You worked for Apple, and you don't think Spooky has a customer database to reference? Especially when they have 750 pre-orders to keep track of. This is simple stuff for any company.

Just installed the X-Spacers from Ninja Camp and wow. The game feels incredibly responsive now, exactly as you would expect it to play.

Same annoyance for me too. I’ve also noticed it doesn’t properly refund all balls saved during multi-ball if they all drain at once. So, if there’s 3 seconds left of ball save, and 3 balls drain, by the time the second ball is launched into the shooter lane, 3 seconds is up and it doesn’t bother spitting the 3rd out.

Incredibly frustrating.

Getting weird lighting issues since the last update. The timers at both ends stop displaying correctly, sometimes every light turns plain while while flipping, then reverts back when a switch is hit, and now my pop colour is a sea foam green rather than plain white (all the time even during attract mode).

Anyone else encounter this?

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Why was it removed? It’s one of my favourite quotes from the show

Also, why is Goodbye Moonmen only half of the song? Again, one of my favourite things from the show cut just short of what it should be.

And lastly, a tech question: how do you remove the pop bumper LED? Just straight up? I took the top off and wiggled it, and noticed it flickered and turned back on when in just the right position. Does spooky send out replacement bulbs, or can we get these from elsewhere?

Oh, so it was a different voice actor used than in the show… interesting. Disappointing but I understand.

Now, someone find a way to edit the code so we can mod the original voices in!

Glad someone else is saying it. It drives me nuts that one of the best songs from the show is limited to 30 seconds here, when the Scary Terry adventure has two full sections to complete.

If this was it for content, I would be greatly disappointed. With the flippers being fixed with the new bushings/x-spacer, I'm filling the full punch card 4/5 games I play, so Love Potion is not exactly the elusive wizard/mini-wizard novelty that it once was.

What is happening to my game? It’s like graphical glitches from a dying GPU in LED form.

This happens randomly when playing, and it’s becoming more frequent.

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Can’t wait for a parts list… thanks for doing this!

Here’s the stock screen from a 6’5” view.

Blech!

The blacks start to match the Galaxian Purple, haha!

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I frequently get callouts to “get to the car” and “get to the ship”, when there is nothing redeemable at the scoop.

Are these referring to something else?

They should just "leak" the code and let the community make new game modes. If they have no plans to update or add features, then why not? I know why, but just saying.

Booted my game up after being off for a while, and the RGB is going crazy.

All connections look secure…

Any ideas?

https://imgur.com/a/wcLYbCE

Edit: just started unplugging grey cables for the RGB boards and seems to be back to normal for now…

Looking for some advice... and figured I'd get a "biased" opinion

I've listed my R&M for sale as I don't think it's smart for me to hold such a valuable collectible during an upcoming recession...

Anyways, I was hoping for a cash sale, but someone has offered me Avengers IQ: Premium + cash. I figured I could always sell the A:IQ later, as it's likely easier to get a buyer for that over R&M, since it's of less financial value.

Now for the biased opinions... am I making a huge mistake getting rid of this beautiful collectors item? The game itself is quite fun, but not $12kUSD fun to me at current market value.

Being relatively new to the hobby (2 years now), does R&M have the potential to be an even higher value collectors item in the future, or is it likely to be treated as just another out of production pinball machine?

I'm not opposed to keeping it, it took a hell of a lot of time and money to make its way here, so I'm just looking for opinions.

Thanks everyone!

I'm highly neurotic and second and triple guess everything I do. I like your attitude. Thanks for your opinion

Thank you for your thoughts, appreciate it!

Yup, initially my only trading option was Godzilla Premium...

Thank you both for your input. I agree, R&M is a one-of-a-kind game.

I feel the same way about R&M. It is 1 of 2 in my collection, and I agree with you on having it in a small collection.

In the end, I decided to keep it. If I get rid of it, it's going to be for the market value that it's worth, in cash, and not a trade for a Stern machine that is mass produced by the thousands. With only 750 of these, I think it's pretty special and difficult to let go of, especially as a fan of the show.