I wonder who ended up with #750? Despite the horrendous wait it would be cool to know you got the last one that rolled off the line.

It may be more narrow or set a little further back as TWD's left ramp is one of the easier shots in the game. Hmm

I like dark, minimally decorated wallpaper like this... doesn't give it that claustrophobic "lit up kid's toybox" look that brightly colored wallpaper can cause (I refuse to call them "blades"

I actually prefer just straight black sides most of the time as then the lit PF seems to float in space and doesn't remind you you're looking into a box.

But I know I'm in the minority and my view might seem a little... odd I suppose. Lord knows there will probably be 10 variants soon available to choose from... more options are always good.

Sounds like a swinging plumbus in a lit box going where the bill validator would be. That would look pretty disturbing

Yeah I may have to take advantage of their offer to send a lower mount for the disk. Or you could simply drill a hole lower in the original mount and relocate the spinning disk. That way you'd always have both options available. Hmm

Attract mode is pretty unique. Like someone painting with a roller. Awesome!

That WOULD be a good award... I sure as heck needed it today. Still it fills pretty quick but nothing worse than hearing that "depleted" sound while you're still wrangling with the ball. Lotsa fun.

Yeah it's a great mini game in itself. You can't just have it grab the ball, let go and have it fall into the inlane. It stops the ball pretty reliably but then it may sway to the right and left... so for me the trick was to try to let go as it swayed towards the inlane.

Pretty awesome game... real pretty to look at too. Couple of the shots were tough but so satisfying to hit. Might be a perfect home game in that regard. I had some issues getting the ball to settle down when trying to trap and shoot (and you *really* need to not flail in this game) but that may be my unfamiliarity to the slightly less steep setup of this particular machine. Or the silicone bands... I'm used to super bands but these felt very different. Plus I plain sucked on this particular outing

I did get to see a fellow player finish the "life of..." mode and that was cool. He had a bad life and died horribly but I love this mode. Wish all modes took different paths and could be finished like this one. Playing pinball to narration works surprisingly well. Who'd figure?

I do wish the sound effects for the ramps could be cranked up a bit. Nailing the left ramp is so satisfying but there doesn't seem to be enough audio "oomph" to go with it. All other other sounds were great... ball lock, spinner, etc...

Great job by the Spooky team!

These really ARE great aren't they? Wish everybody did them.

Or you could bend it up a quarter inch and have it never bother you again. You don't really think balls going over it will actually bend it back down do you?

When I played it the launch felt solid. No rattling around towards the end, etc. It's not as flimsy as you're thinking.

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I'll take luck any day. In fact I depend on it

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Since the ball will be shooting back towards the player down the ramp shouldn't the character on the "roller coaster" be facing the player also. Just seems like he is going against the flow of the game there. Maybe see how it looks if you just spin him around (provided he has a face).

Too much clutter for me but it looks good and I applaud your ingenuity.

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2 or 3 weeks ago they still had #94 available. I missed that by a day. Trying to move up the list has become a challenging game in itself. Can't wait.

Well it's still mainly bars, etc getting them and I could care less to see the exact same stock machine coming out of the box in yet ANOTHER persons house. Just not worth the server space or diesel fuel frankly.

And since we've seen most of the current modes I don't feel any urgency for any more streams either... especially since most of the time you won't clearly hear the sounds,etc over people happily yammering. Most people were happy at what they saw and a lot of us have been able to play it so now it's just the waiting game.

I'm sure as more make into private homes you'll get to see the same box opened repeatedly

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Hit your head on the machine? Or was that courtesy of the wife when you rolled up with that in the car?

Should have warned her first

It really did! Well if you end up with a scar there you'll need a better story. Maybe something involving a knife fight

The guy in Austria that advertises here may still have one. That's where the last guy said he got his. It'll cost an extra grand though.

Don't worry it won't have to go overseas first

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Add-a-ball is one of my fav things so hopefully this will come with a long and ample stretch of time to keep pumping them out.

Would also be cool to see the good 'ole white knuckle RESTART multiball timer ticking down on one of the multiballs. You don't see this that often anymore and it's always satisfying to manage to fire it up again at the last second.

-message to EP- Don't forget to add the WMS style "grace period" to these events that we have come to know and love
"JUST managed a last minute jackpot!"

Great job BTW!

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Good for you dude. I'm too polite to ask how much that set you back

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Since I'm older now... they weigh more. Sad fact.

Ain't that the truth! Preach!

A "hope mongerer" then. Now that's a phrase that should get some traction

I think they said they would have lower mounts available but that you could always drill a hole a little lower in the original bracket and there will be enough room to lower the spinning "portal" down a bit. That's what I'm planning to do if it's too tall.

My only comment is that particular font doesn't appear anywhere else in the game so it doesn't seem integrated at all.

Maybe if it was done with the same fonts as "anti gravity right flipper, etc" it would look like it fits with the rest of the fonts/artwork...?

Maybe he's behind on his reading?

Yeah and that fact that different games have the entrance to the loop shot drilled in different places is scary

This worries me a bit IF one hasn't been modified. Possibly one was drilled a little further back by the owner and you can't see the original hole under the tab.

I'm just hoping both of these didn't come from the factory drilled this differently. Wish we knew who the owner was in the pic that Whysnow used. Might clear this up.

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Scott please leave the tabs in place without screwing them down. This will give the owners some options if they want to increase the curvature a bit more if desired.

More options = always better.

Thanks

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I think he means the position of the screws in the spinner loop lane. If they are indeed screwed down. Glad to hear the loop shoots well.

Yes this is what had been described to me by Spooky so your comment threw me off. Glad they did it this way and kept the tabs on the rail "just in case" someone wants to tinker.

Awesome company with awesome people. The only company that seems to be able to easily navigate the minefield that is a pinball forum

Congrats on the machine you lucky SOB. I've got some painful waiting until the low 300's.

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Where do you live again dude? I forgot your address

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Ahh... life is good.

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Somebody turns subs down?

Nahh I get it

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Hmmm... I'd be careful what you wish for. I agree it needs a more permanent solution but a traditional metal hinge will be ugly up there with all the lighting around it. It's in a very visible spot.

What would be the most aesthetically pleasing fix I wonder?

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Hey don't feel bad... we ALMOST had a little controversy going here. But just like many times before in this thread Spooky manages to nip it in the bud. Preemptive shutdown.

Where's the fun in that?

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Might be a physical issue with the long reed switch that contacts the right flipper button in the cab. Been a lot of discussion about it already including cutting it down and adding a NF-style clear disk to reliably work with the flipper button. Scott made sure they were available at PL if people wanted to go that route. You'll have to look back a couple months as I don't know where the posts are in the thread. Maybe do a search for posts from o-din as he came up with this idea for R&M.

Damn and I wrote an entire paragraph. lol "Brevity is the soul of wit".

The right flipper has an elongated physical switch that can be problematic so look through the key posts... maybe look for the one's with O-din in them as he went to a clear disk that is available from Pinball Life as an alternative (and hopefully problem-free) method.

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Maybe try cleaning and gapping the right flipper leaf switch first and see if that somehow clears up the issue. Another poster mentioned this and sometimes the simple fixes do wonders.

Good luck! I hate intermittent issues myself.

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Jesus.

Knowing that I'll be hearing the scream and fart dimensions constantly has somewhat diminished my expectations of the game. Yes I know if you get past them it will then truly randomize but it still means I'll be hearing them more than anything else. And they my least favorite sounds to have to endure. Especially the screams. I'll probably sadly have to lower the overall volume of everything just to get through that dimension.

Personally I wish there was indeed a setting for true randomization from the get go for those that don't particularly care about the score and want more to experience each time they play. I also don't have endless time to play the game so that will limit my advancement also.

Oh well just thought I'd cast a vote for a truly "random" setting. I know it's not popular with everyone else here. (but you wouldn't need to use that particular setting anyway then).

Looking forward to getting mine soon in any case.

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Hmm. I could have sworn there were other helpful suggestions players have made that DID make it into the code but maybe I'm wrong.

What makes Spooky so special is that they actually DO listen to the customer... unlike most others.

Eric's gotten NOTHING but accolades over here (from me obviously) and a suggestion about an option shouldn't be viewed as a "complaint".

I didn't mean for my post about an option to come off as a complaint but maybe it did. I was a little down so my tone probably wasn't on point.

I just wanted to avoid hearing the screaming dimension in every game (or every other game). That's all. Not a huge deal I suppose.

Yeah the whole "censor" thing is pretty popular right now. "We like it the way it is and wouldn't change it - but YOU should not have another option or even have the temerity to ASK about it!" lol

Why would other people care that would never use the option? I certainly wouldn't care how others set up their game and there's an option that gave them more enjoyment I'd be all for it. I don't get the nattering nabobs of negativism towards the suggestion. (There's an old quote for ya - though it sounds vaguely R&M-like )

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The leg clearance and angle now look good. Is that how it came out of the box or did you double up the leg mounts or something?

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Tell your son to be careful when he puts the glass back on after playing! . I think I'd have to set it to a 10 ball game to get that kind of score.

Ok I know this has been discussed before but I don't see it in the key posts... can someone tell me the total height of the topper from the top of the backbox? I glossed over this before as I was going to put it in a room with a high ceiling but now may put it somewhere else.

I do know you can drill a hole in the mount to lower the disk if needed but I'm not sure by how much... I figure maybe an inch or so (to be safe).

Thx!

Well you certainly made that work didn't you?

7' is helpful but it would also matter then how high you have the back legs jacked up and most of mine are set pretty high. So it could be over 7' if yours are not as high (or less if yours are set even higher than mine).

So I'm still looking for the height of the topper itself as I can then add that to my other machines already in the questionable area and see if I have that much space on top to pull this off.

But the 7' gives me something to work with so I'll use that measurement first.

Damn you've worked all this magic from that thing? Color me even MORE impressed! Unreal.

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I know this has probably been asked and answered but has anyone hooked up an external subwoofer and bypassed the internal speaker entirely? I've gotten most vibrations out of the cab but I'm interested just to see how it would sound only hooked up to my external.
The internal sub still runs when it's wired from the speaker to the external and I'm not sure how to only run the external alone.

Next will be to tackle my shaker which must be more like a Red Tremor as even on the lowest setting it's a jackhammer that shakes the backglass, speaker panel, etc etc. I suppose I could experiment with the weights to see if that smooths it out a bit.

You
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The MAN!!!!

Made my Xmas season right there!

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Did you reboot after the update? Just to be sure?

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He's a good player. I watched a little of his stream... even the anguish when his 144 mil game (which was about to beat his 148 GC score) locked up and ended it all

Nah. If you leave your flippers the way they are for easier backhanding you'll get a feel for the way the other shots tend to be further down the flipper than most games. Or you could set them up in the more traditional manner.

-OR-

Turn on the training wheels for a while. I've never seen a game that gives you a ball saver for virtually ANYTHING that can go wrong like this one.

Don't like the pop bumper? Increase slam save time. Scoop? Turn on saver. Portal exit? Turn on saver. U turn? Turn on saver...
and so forth.

Once you get a feel for the game you can start turning them off. This is a game that can be set up so even the most novice player (like my daughter) can enjoy. I appreciate these options that Scott and Eric put in so my non-pinball friends can get some fun out of the game. And most my local friends fall under this category.

This won't apply if you don't actually own it and only play it in the wild though... then you're on your own

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I had mine on from the beginning and indeed my inner orbit was smooth right out of the box. I didn't love hearing the clack of the diverter with every loop so I then disabled it and the shot is still smooth with no rattling rejects, etc.

So I've left mine off.

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C'mon it's easy to hit. Just aim for the ramp or the orbit...

I'd be interested also. It's the viewing angle that kills it for me as if I hunch down a foot or less then it's jet black and just right. I was thinking of trying to angle back the screen in the frame but the setup isn't optimal for that. Simply swapping out the screen with something with a confirmed wider viewing angle would ideal.

If you're 6' like me you'll see the washout on the very final all-black screen that just has a tiny Morty head on it. The black is grey unless I hunch down and then it goes all black. Also notice it in the "What the hell?" ending sequence as it's so dark. That's really the only time it bothers me at all. But it's the LAST thing I see usually

I have my brightness at 0, contrast 100 and gamma on. I also play it in the dark hence the brightness setting. I do have the PF set pretty steep also. I hadn't considered that until you mentioned it.

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Yeah I was going to say "look what can be done when they have all the assets"... but then realized they really didn't - it's missing quite a few voices from the show.

But it's coded SO WELL you never even notice. When they've added a new voice like Scary Terry it was excellent quality. So well done it fits right in with the authentic dialogue made for the machine. It would have been easy for that to hit a wrong note and stick out from the rest of the modes.

The voice work on this game reminds me of the care and quality on many classic WMS/BLY games.

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Simply ask Spooky (or have your dist ask) for an extra set of leg protectors. I did this and used the extra set between the legs and the protectors already on the cab (like Metallik describes) and it nicely keeps the legs well away from the cab.

No need to pay extra for the Mantis.

I also had some black plastic leg bolt washers from PL that I used to protect the leg's purple finish. Did that to be OCD but not necessary.

On that note I have to mention how nice Spooky's decal process is. I expected to have some mild woodgrain showing under the decals like Stern's but at least on my machine it's mirror-smooth and also has the neat tuck-in process they do on the corners. Pretty impressive.

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Yeah I think it looks awful. All that light up there and the great light show will be blocked by a dark rectangle of metal. Simply loosen the screws and nuts on the right side of the clear plastic and it will probably last forever.

I've spent a blistering hour or three on "tweaking". Changed the flipper rubbers and replaced the fan that sounded like a Concord landing in the living room.

I "could" fool around with some of the guides but it's playing damn good so I figure I'll wait.

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Don't get a very large one as you want to format it in the old FAT format. I used a Micro Center 8 gig freebie and it worked perfectly the first time (after I finally found out where the USB input was... lol.

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Looks nice but I assume that dustbuster whine is the game's original power supply fan and not your mod right? Hearing that whine brought it all back again! Vic's fan kit is a MUST but getting the power supply out with the PF in the way killed my back with the contortions I had to make

Some muscular minion at Spooky had cranked the connectors down so hard that getting them off the power supply was one of the tougher things I had to do lately.

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Nahhh. If you get one less than 32 gigs you really don't even have to format it at all. With a PC you can just right click the flash drive icon when it's plugged in and you'll see the "format" option. Then pick quick format in FAT or FAT32.

You'll be fine. Plus it may come with the recent build already on your machine.

Might just be habit from video games. Like when you update and find the only "bugfix" was to add advertisements or something. Oops gotta step back!

Certainly doesn't seem needed for this game though... unless Eric gets disgruntled and goes rogue one day

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Don't you see the black tape on the edges of the glass when in the game then? I've never had to use it so I don't know.

You can also turn the scoop power level down. I think I dropped mine from 20 to 16 or so. Any lower it would start getting unpredictable so you'll have to fiddle with it a bit.

Beats having the scoop shoot the ball with such unnecessary force. My flippers were holding up but I could feel them groaning under the assault.

I can confirm that at least *sometimes*... you need to power cycle the game when switching flipper settings. I noticed this the first time I tried the latest code and when I went from default to "original" they started fluttering repeatedly on their own. I remember thinking "Oh no this is NOT how mine were originally" but after a power cycle they then behaved as expected.

I didn't mention it as I figured it could have been a one time thing, something related to my game only, etc but now that I see another mention of it people should give it a try if you get wonky results after switching.

Also make sure there is a tiny gap (like edge of playing card) between the flipper and the bushing. If it's jammed up against the bushing (easy to do since they are so high) it will drag and overly heat the coil. Just yank up on it and make sure it has some play.

But yeah that could indeed affect your EOS if it's now not engaging at the end of the stroke.

----THIS---- ^^^^^

It is. The shorter ones are on the inside.

I sent you a PM about what I did. I didn't want to ream out the inner holes in case I wanted to eventually install the new bushings and go "stock". Basically found some screws that would extend enough to grab the shorter side through the spacer but not expand the holes.

I'm not sure anybody knows why Spooky used shorter screws on half the flipper assembly anyways so it probably doesn't matter.

I used Toyotaboy's QUITE affordable "Xless" spacers (cuz I'm cheap) and they went in quick with no drama. Like others, I turned down the flipper power a bit (starting to get airballs) and they do feel great now at the proper height.

Personally I hate to have to loosen and re-tighten flipper shafts unless I have to. The amount of force needed to get them to stay in position is always a little... alarming

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Yeah that doesn't offer any clue as to why all three flipper mechs use smaller screws on the inside mounts. PF certainly isn't any thinner there and no other assemblies are in the way. I just see Scott telling people not to use flipper spacers and wait for the bushings... 6 months ago.

I get that but I *think* the right lower flipper assembly hangs straight down into a visible part of the PF. Maybe that ends up under the sling though. Ok I can see the intent.

That's why I hunted around to find a screw for the spacer that would mimic the small screw. Figured there had to be some reason for the different sizes.

Didn't want to spoil my record of over 20 years of swapping out assemblies etc and never poking a screw through the PF

Seen my share of used beaters with what seemed to be drywall screws coming up out of the PF though. THAT makes an impression you don't soon forget. Ouch

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Yeah three or four loudmouths ganged up on him and finally managed to piss him off. Sadly a typical forum occurrence.

Let's *hope* he is still working on R&M but...

Frankly I can't even remember if you were one of the bitchers that made this place feel like death for a few days and ran him off.

Not sure what issue you're referring to but a lot of us report stuff to him IN PM's... not pummel him in public.

Sorry you feel so guilty though. I never even mentioned your name or thought about you.

Also make sure you are running the latest update so changing your flipper settings will actually be recognized without a power cycle (but you probably know this).

Hmmm not pinstadium related but I wonder if the blue crystal mod could be tied into the white GI? I have one but haven't put it in the game as the idea of it just being on constantly in a static manner while every other light is undulating, shutting down, etc kinda bugs my OCD.

Anybody done this or have any ideas? I haven't investigated it but I doubt it would be as easy as tapping into a bulb as in Bally/Wms, etc. Or maybe it is?

Anything would be better than always on (for me).

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Never had airballs off the right ramp but after lowering the flippers I was hitting the right orbit so hard it was banging off the upper diverter. Rather than fool with the diverter I just kept lowering the flipper power to the left flipper. I think I'm at 24 or something now and could probably go lower. I find none of the right side shots require WMS "blue coil" kind of power anyway.

Something to try first in any case. Then again if you have always had this issue Metallik's solution may be in the cards.

All I had to do was put a couple washers at the back of the apron where it connects to the PF hangers. This moves the apron forward a tiny bit and then the mounting tabs can't touch the ball. Looks 100% stock so why re-invent the wheel?

That said your product looks nice.

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So this will give you actual blacks in a dark room and if you're 5' 11" or so? Right now I have to hunch down to get the proper viewing angle even with brightness to 0 and contrast to 100.

Probably wouldn't be an issue unless you play in the dark as I like to do these days.

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Hmm so not a magic fix then? I was hoping a unit with a wider viewing angle would solve the issue. Good to know.

It's not a huge deal but one I'm interested in.

Yer a good egg! Appreciate you taking the plunge for those of us nitpicky enough to care about it. Or at least everybody over 5'11'' or so that likes to play in the dark. I'm excited!

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Damn dude... so close. But upside down

Does it seem to eliminate the grays and improve the viewing angle? I assume so but tell me more!

Awesome buddy! Try it in a pitch black room and see how the blacks hold up... can't wait to hear about it (and then grab your pre-tested choices on Amazon

Quit the torture dude! lol. Just spill your guts on every minute detail. We're a demanding bunch here!

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Ok now THAT'S an update. Appreciate it. You're right about the resolution so I can be calm now. Still pretty excited though

Usually little things that bug me but few others aren't going to get "fixed" but with you on the case I'm finally hopeful. Plus you've got the 3d printer and the know-how for the brackets ... AND... my gameplay on this beast has finally improved. Only took forever. Whole lotta cursing for the first few months. Glad my kids weren't around.

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Ok 'fess up! Where did you get Scary Terry? ...and what is that frightening thing over the scoop?

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In a dark room with the contrast to 100 and the brightness to zero the blacks can get pretty grey for me. Now if I drop down 3 inches or so THEN they are nice and black. So it's a viewing angle thing that bugs me.
A good indicator is the final screen of the game before the match animations. It's just a small Morty badge on an all-black (grey for me at full height) screen.

Maybe most people don't play in pitch darkness or are a touch shorter... I know in a decently lighted room I wouldn't have an issue. But I like the light show in the dark so... I'm going to try the swap.

6'5"... damn you've got it worse than me or most everyone else. This may be the only time you wished you were shorter

I'm just glad there are options... if I hadn't grown so fond of this game I probably wouldn't bother.

Yeah I'll be trying it out tonight and getting the brackets tomorrow. Unless I go duct tape . Nah