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Avoid JJP - They do not stand behind their products

By Deez

2 years ago


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#277 2 years ago

124 upvotes and 0 downvotes...wow. Definitely some pent-up frustration here. Pinball warrantees have sucked for a long time. I avoid NIB JJP games because of the well documented PF issues...too much of a crap shoot.

The PF and butter cab on my Spooky R&M blows JJP away. Sure, R&M required a lot of dialing in, but the BOM parts were rock solid and high quality. The audio setup sounds great (much nicer than JJP/Stern). I trust Luke, Charlie and team and look forward to Ultraman! Spooky support has been great...they give a shit

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#288 2 years ago
Quoted from GrimDog:

“Lot of dialing in” is a gross understatement….

I'm not known for understatement, but I "get" some folks had it worse than others. Mine took a solid month to dial-in. Sorry if yours was worse...don't recall you from the main R&M bitch thread (doesn't look like you post very often). Hopefully the thread helped you resolve some of the issues...lots of helpful posts.

#448 2 years ago
Quoted from Bublehead:

My observation is Distributors are caught between operators who don't give a crap and consumers who do. If a distributor drops a manufacturer due to poor playfield cosmetic quality, he can no longer sell that brand of machines to his operator customers who could care less about cosmetic defects. So you can see, depending on the distributors customer mix, they may or may not want to bust the manufacturers balls. I think this is the biggest reason we don't see much action from JJP or the distributors on cosmetic pf defects. But I think Pinside is a consumer echo chamber that amplifies the angst against manufacturers and the radio silence from JJP comes from this customer duality that the distributors now have to navigate.
Or I could be full of crap.

Meh...don't buy your argument. I imagine 80% of JJP games are going into homes, not arcades. It's much simpler...the distributors have little reason to bust JJP's balls since they aren't being hurt. Many of us are on the record of avoiding NIB JJP purchases...unless that list grows considerably, there is still more than enough demand. Until JJP and their distributors are hurting, nothing will change. Again, this has been going on for YEARS! If it were more minor timeframe on a specific title, it would be easier to cur JJP more slack.

#615 2 years ago
Quoted from jandrea95:

I see people bitch about Stern all the time, from what I have seen is that Stern doesnt blatantly ignore people or ghost them to the same magnitude JJP does. People get PISSED when they have issues and are ignored.
Im no expert on Spooky but I know of several machines that had power issues, etc. You dont see angry threads because they were actually taken care of. JJP has a multitude of issues they simply are not taking care of, or addressing.
You cant sweep things under the rug in this community, it will bite you in the ass.

Bought my first Spooky game (R&M) back in November. When I posted my issues on the R&M thread, Spooky was fully engaged (posts, emails, calls, etc.). This is why I'll be a repeat customer...they care. From my perspective, R&M is an extraordinary game and it was worth the speed bumps to dial in.

Engaging with the community on missteps, updates, issues is critical. As long as a company is truthful and engaged, I think we are willing (as a community) to cut the manufacturer some slack. People expecting perfection are simply misguided. Unfortunately, JJP's PF issues are serious and long standing.

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#1391 2 years ago
Quoted from Jenk540i:

Any advice about how to successfully get tech support from JJP now? About a year ago I had a flipper button issue with my POTC. I sent an email to tech support on a Friday night and had 2 replies by mid day Saturday with prompt follow up emails. Great support.
But now my friend needs to obtain replacement servos for the spotlights on his GNRLE and he has sent 3 emails in the last 2 weeks with no replies. It’s like they’re closed for inquiries? Any suggestions?

I've called the main JJP number twice over the past couple weeks and got a helpful tech support person both times (Ken Holland, IIRC).

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#1439 2 years ago
Quoted from Colehvac1:

I have some games with pooling, its slight, but my GNRLE was chipping, and the washers weren’t enough. If it was just pooling i would have been fine with it, but missing art and clear down to wood, not so much. The more i played the worse it got, so I stopped playing it and sold it, JJP support is crappy at best, i had many mechanical issues, emails to tech support sometimes didnt get a response for 7 days.

If email isn't working, why not pick up the phone?

The last 3 times I called JJP support the phone was answered and very timely support was given. The parts were shipped more efficiently than my recent experiences with Stern (who often insists customers go through their distributor, which can add speed bumps).

Quoted from Tranquilize:

Less than a year on here and you've come to the rescue to tell us that all is well.
LOL is an understatement.

Bingo.

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