From my count pinside ads have about 30 gnr for sale ads between se,ce,le. Yet there are still people waiting for their ones they ordered a year ago, i guess non refundable deposits keep the buyers in line.

I was smart enough to sell right away, next up pooling , chipping toy story. I still believe they will go under with the economic downturn thats coming. I also believe parts wont be available for Woz, hobbits and the such, those games will be unplayable pieces of art. Ask anyone that needs a power supply for An early WOZ, or light boards etc etc.

Obviously this post was started by someone that was upset by the way they were treated. Im also not happy with the way i was treated. Maybe someone should do a poll, will you ever buy a JJP product again, im sure the votes for will continue buying will outweigh those that wont buy again but the fact that anyone wont ever buy a JJP product again should be concerning.

I have some games with pooling, its slight, but my GNRLE was chipping, and the washers weren’t enough. If it was just pooling i would have been fine with it, but missing art and clear down to wood, not so much. The more i played the worse it got, so I stopped playing it and sold it, JJP support is crappy at best, i had many mechanical issues, emails to tech support sometimes didnt get a response for 7 days.

I have a friend that received and oct 2021 build and his doesn’t have the same poor quality mine had, when i look at his the difference is obvious. This means JJP corrected some problems, but left earlier buyers holding the Bag. I was made whole by selling my game while the buying frenzy was still happening, going in i didnt think there was any risk because JJP had a reputation for-making good on warranty for defects,I found thats no longer true,in fact i have done many In home field repairs on their new games to support them and the customer experience. in fact they changed their warranty to exclude playfield defects. Theres not a chance I will ever buy a JJP game new or used, they are no longer a company with any sort of integrity, its now money over all else. I do however still do in home service on their games.

If you’re a seasoned pinball machine collector with the skills to work on your own games JJP is a small risk for you, but if this is a first time nib purchase i would never recommend a noob buy a JJP anything as their first.

Best case is you could sue them in small claims court, you would have to sue them in the jurisdiction that their offices are in. So some county in Illinois. Usually theres a limit on the amount you can sue for 5000 6000 somewhere in that neighborhood. I PMd with 10 other pinsiders that had GNRLE’s with playfield issues, one actually got the buyback we were all offered, its no coincidence that he was in Illinois 1-1/2 hours from JJP headquarters. If they were still in Jersey when it happened i would have filed a small claims case, but no way to sue someone in small claims court in Illinois when you live in NY.

Just looked it up 10,000 plus cost in Illinois

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Im not a lawyer, i only know in NY a consumer can sue a business in small claims court. Other than small claims any lawsuit would probably require a lawyer.

https://ag.state.il.us/consumers/smlclaims.html

I read this info, it appears to be similar to new york, go to the clerk, get some paperwork, fill it out, bring it back, pay a filing fee, last time i did this in NY it was 25.00. Then you get a court date. From my experience you should always have an expert witness, then its up to the judge. It would be a bad idea for JJP to just send a lawyer. This is too much trouble unless you got a bug up your ass and want to make a point, i chose to just sell mine and be done.

A bunch of us had legitimate defective playfields. Because i was vocal about the shit treatment I received from JJP and shared my defects to warn others doesn’t make me a troll. JJP has probably warned Barry E not to share the truth with us because it would probably destroy what little integrity JJP has Left with the collector community. A small blemish doesn’t bother me at all i have a collection of 40 games, some were nib, some were huo, some were on location, all have blemishes. Its not good business to sell a product with a known defect and then tell the customer that the defect is perfectly acceptable and they are being too picky. JJP could make this all go away, produce the next game, get them to the customers and then we’ll see if its business as usual or products improved, i for one wont be spending my money with them to find out.