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Avoid Ebay Seller "ClassicArcades"


By timab2000

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Hey everybody,

I purchased a set of plastics for my Stern Meteor on Ebay for a seller with the username of, "classicarcades". The color of the set was not even close to the original, so I sent them back the next day after receiving them.

Order was placed on Jan 10, 2018 I still have not received a refund from the seller and am having to get Ebay involved. He claims to offer 14 day returns, but he will not respond to emails that I have sent. I would not recommend this seller to anyone. Just a heads up.

ebay.com link » Stern Meteor 10 Piece Pinball Machine Plastic Set Brand New 6 Color Screen Print

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#2 1 year ago

Huh. I ordered several times from Classic Arcades, never had a problem.

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#3 1 year ago

Looks pretty clear to me, from the picture on the auction, you saw what you were going to get. Unless my eyes are very bad today(possible), you probably should have inquired before buying, or just passed. The sling you got looks exactly like the sling in the auction picture.

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#4 1 year ago

You say order placed on 1/10/18, so you probably received the plastics 3 or 4 days later, got them back in the mail a day after that. That equates to being in the mail on about the 16th, and 3 days back to seller(19th), today is the 30th. He will probably refund your $, but frankly, you got what is pictured in the auction, and do not merit a refund.

#5 1 year ago

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#6 1 year ago

Well I guess my point is, he offer a 14 day refund in the ad, Money back or item exchange (buyer's choice) and he does not respond at all to anything.

If he offers that he should at least honor what he offers if you are unhappy.

#7 1 year ago

I'm not sure what your point is of the auction pic. If you look at the one he sent me the color isn't close. The auction pic could have been a original set .

I looked at that same pic in the listing and figured that the colors match, in the picture it looks like it does, when in reality they don't.

#8 1 year ago
Quoted from timab2000:

I'm not sure what your point is of the auction pic. If you look at the one he sent me the color isn't close. The auction pic could have been a original set .

Absolutely, the colors are washed out. EBay will step in if he doesn't refund.

#9 1 year ago

Just throw some unnecessary pink and purple LEDs under the plastics and you'll never notice the color difference!

In all seriousness, eBay ALWAYS sides with the buyer. As a long time seller, I know.

#10 1 year ago

Yea.. I've bought stuff from this vendor before, I think. Never had an issue, but these plastics aren't right. They should refund.

#11 1 year ago

A while back I bought a set of BK2K sling plastics from him listed as NOS. Yellow was as far off as your orange is. Clearly not original in any way. Got a refund after listening to some excuses.

I wish Planetary Pinball would list the source of their items so we could make wise buying decisions.

#12 1 year ago

They have a reputation for poor communication and shit QC. I had an experience with piss poor Diner inserts in the past. Good luck.

#13 1 year ago
Quoted from timab2000:

I'm not sure what your point is of the auction pic. If you look at the one he sent me the color isn't close. .

I'm not sure, could be my eyes. To me, the top one looks slightly more purple than the middle one, but that could be because of the GI lighting.

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#14 1 year ago

During the past decade that I've been involved in this whole "pinball hobby", I've noticed that most pinball part manufacturers who deal in any reproduction parts or decals with art on them, are apparently color blind.

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#15 1 year ago

Always good to check Pinside first for reviews:

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#16 1 year ago

Wow! Lot's of disappointed people. I did not know about this site until after I had made the purchase, but now I know.

I actually found some original replacements from a member on this site, which is cool that everyone here helps each other out like he did with me. I guess I maybe need to be more patient on the refund. But I agree...I should have done looking around before making the purchase. Dumb on my part.

#17 1 year ago

This is common with all of Classicarcades stuff......quality is bad! If you search on classicarcade (too late Atari Daze provided) the one thing you will find is complaints as to the products he sells. Appears he isn't concerned over the quality just the quantity in which he produces!

I wouldn't wait on him to respond .... open a dispute with ebay as you want to make sure you handle this within the 30 days as opposed to waiting!

#18 1 year ago

Update....got my money refunded about an hour ago. His ears must have been burning.

#19 1 year ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Update....got my money refunded about an hour ago. His ears must have been burning.

best to edit your first post saying this.

#20 1 year ago

Sorry, but you get what you pay for.
Buy cheap get cheap!

I made several purchases from them, with no complaints what so ever.

#21 1 year ago

Glad this one ended well!

#22 1 year ago

My BSD slings I just ordered from them aren't even close to the orginals either. Ill get pics in a bit

#23 1 year ago

QC has always been all over the map with these guys, going back 15 years. Last resort vendor for me.

He's not a crook though.

#24 1 year ago

The typefaces used on his apron stickers/decals are usually way off as compared to original artwork

Jody

#25 1 year ago

Yeah, their shit's no good.

They post a picture of a repro backglass on e-bay and send you one with the colors all washed out that looks nothing like it.

#26 1 year ago

Jeff McAffee has been making sh*t product since Day-1-RGP-Pre-Pinside-Days.

#27 1 year ago

I’ve done 2 xenon overlays from classic arcades. Very happy with the quality!
My only gripe is I wish another layer of white was added so I don’t have to paint the entire area under the overlay white first.
I’ve also done a couple Flash Gordon’s from him with similar results.
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As for customer support, I think he’s does a decent job.
Can’t speak to the quality of all his products. Except I know his apron decals suck

As for the meteor plastics. Aren’t these just being resold by classic arcades? Pinball Rescue recently released plastic sets for Meteor.

#28 1 year ago
Quoted from brenna98:

As for the meteor plastics. Aren’t these just being resold by classic arcades?

They claim to be ordered by him and made in the USA. But hey is also says this so um...yeah

"COLORS ARE MUCH BRIGHTER THAN ORIGINAL AND "POP" WHEN LIT UP!!!!!

THESE PLASTICS MAKE THE GAME LOOK LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS WHEN INTSALLED"

#29 1 year ago

I bought stuff from them before and never had an issue.

#30 1 year ago

Hi Everyone....Jeff has helped me dozens and dozens of times printing stuff no one else would be bothered with. He has done stuff at the last minute and shipped the next day. He made a Lethal Weapon plastic for me no one else had and was not in the set I had gotten, for instance. It looked perfect in my eyes...but I wasn't judging it if I was an art critic. It is JUST a pinball machine. With all the color led changes people are doing, plastics look different now because of how they are lit anyway...44 bulbs light a dull color---its funny how I thought new 44 incandescent bulbs looked great...a LED warm or Cool white look completely different under those plastics....and you can play with the other colors too...no one will ever notice any difference in the colors. You may have to wait until someone else decides to put these into production...but it may be a long wait. I find that most of these plastics for Meteor are fine and unbroken.
Jeff is NOT perfect...he is NOT and NEVER will be walking on water! He has made mistakes...but I have made a lot more than him I am sure. He has always corrected any issues I have had if he could. Sometimes colors can be a bit different, especially with color fading from the original stuff. No one else seems to want to print Meteor plastics. The cost of the plastic set was $125 with free shipping...eBay and pay-pal take almost 20% now...and shipping had to be $10 minimum. Its not a giant profit...as he gets just $90 for them, but I am sure he will take the plastic set back...if he has not already done so, and give you a full refund!

#31 1 year ago
Quoted from toddtuckey:

No one else seems to want to print Meteor plastics.

As posted in the OTHER Meteor Plastics thread about ClassicArcades, there's a very good, dead-on color repro set available here:
http://www.pinballrescue.net/Plastics_Meteor.html

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#32 1 year ago

I've known Jeff for many years. He works very hard to make a living in the virtually impossible field of pinball. He has done everything I've asked. I would suggest making relationships with people first and foremost. If at first you don't succeed try, try, and try again! So when you contact him, start off with "Hi Jeff, How are you buddy! Thanks for everything you do!" VS "hey stupid, your stuff looks like crap". With this approach, you will notice a big difference with Jeff and everyone else on the planet.

#33 1 year ago

Bought from him many times with no problems. Just did a KISS overlay and was very happy one insert was slightly off but you can tell. About to do a Evel Knievel overlay. Bought drop targets and apron decals also.

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#34 1 year ago

I’ve bought many items from Jeff over the past 17 years. Bought just about everything from spinner decals to complete used games. Made the two hour drive to his house several times. Personally think he is a good guy but also very, very busy. As for his reproduction parts. It’s a hit or miss. Not sure if there are limitations with the printers he uses but many colors and fonts are off. Used his playfield overlays on Xenon, Gorgar and Flash Gordon. None were perfect but not too far off. If you’re just the average Joe Pinball hobbyists needing to replace a worn out part I would recommend. If you’re trying to do a high end restore or picky about the color matching I would try to find NOS.

#35 1 year ago

Don't confuse with Kevin at Classic Pinball

#36 1 year ago

It is unbelievable how prissy some pinheads can be. The dude makes unobtainable parts that noone else does and probably isn't getting rich off it. You might want to lower your expectations a bit or make them yourself if you want perfection. Don't forget manufactures were just churning out these games at the time and didn't really give AF about consistency of color. Check CPRs website - they have a good example of how wide the variances in colors are across the same title. Some people are just impossible to please.

#37 1 year ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

QC has always been all over the map with these guys, going back 15 years. Last resort vendor for me.
He's not a crook though.

Quoted from o-din:

Yeah, their shit's no good.
They post a picture of a repro backglass on e-bay and send you one with the colors all washed out that looks nothing like it.

Doesn't it make himself a crook?

#38 1 year ago

I bought the infamous Taxi drop target plastic from Jeff. It was a solid B+ repro. My only other option would have been to buy a full set from Planetary.

So while not perfect, I agree with the sentiment that Jeff is a service to the hobby and offers fair products at a fair price.

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