There is no hurry. We know it takes time. GWJ was the one who self imposed unrealistic timelines. We told him literally hundreds of times to quit saying he could build a complete pin in 6 months. We don't harp on him for not making progress, we harp on him for not making progress whilst sticking with his 6 month timeline.

There is no pressure. It's is to be enjoyed as a fun project in a fun hobby. Realistically, 6 months for a whitewood is average, maybe longer.

Enjoy the ride Avi

For the love of God, Avi, just remember one thing. Do NOT set firm timelines. Just try to keep moving forward and see what happens. No one, even those who may contribute parts or cash will ridicule your progress as long as you are making efforts.

Building a machine is very difficult, especially for a newbie. You will be just fine if you do the following:

1. Don't rush, (that's when most mistakes happen that can set you back.)
2. plan effectively
3. Heed the advice from experts and people in the know.

Merry Christmas.

As I was trying to do an update summary on the trailer trash build thread I found myself in a strange place. There was the normal lack of progress on the build, but the everyday stuff that I always tried to put a humorous spin on.... I couldn't. It was just reruns of the same things and it was more sad than fun. When ice announced he pulled the plug on funding and things got personal and ugly, I requested, as the OP that the thread be closed.

Hopefully this thread can be a positive place of our community sharing in a build.

Cheers!

I believe TreyBo69 is the person to ask. He has the plans and a count of all the mechs necessary.

I like this idea and it was offered to GWJ months ago. There is a master list and those interested, such as myself, purchase something towards the build. For example, I see you need three spinners and no one has bought them yet. So I pay for them. Lots of pinsiders are ready to help. Before you know it, everything you need is paid for but no one person spent very much and therefore it is low pressure. Consider it as encouragement and not charity.

I'm just a simple man, but my vote is keep this build completely separate. Not even a coil should be used in this build from the other, therefore keeping this build pure.

The same thinking goes into letting the DR saga die without trying to finish that which should never have been attempted.

Please, stick with the original three spinner design. Keep it true as much as is practical. Let's keep this simple and fun. It looks like a great layout.

He lives at home, has no official employment, is smart and has plenty of time on his hands. He is just now breaking out off his shell, so yes. This project is great for him. With help from the community he can do this. It will take a LOT of his time. But leaning on us for coding, cnc, advice etc it is possible.

Well Avi, if you truly don't want to pursue this build, I would be willing to step up and make this happen. If Ben is willing to CNC the white wood and get it to me (I'll pay for it) I would feel privileged to see this to completion.

I would hate to see this project go unfinished.

But unlike John, I would have a realistic timeline of something like Expo '24 at the earliest.

Input anyone?

Edit: this would still be a community build

I would be willing to pay for the wood, and shipping. I'm not terribly far from you.

I have a friend who does custom furniture and could easily make the cabinet.

I can assemble the play field, albeit slowly.

I could NOT do programming. No art.

Expo '23 is not realistic. That's just asking for a half baked half coded machine. This design deserves better.

And yes, Kim, only with Jon Norris' blessing.

It's only a plan on a napkin. Nothing happens yet.

We can't help it, we are planners!

This is very true. However, most of the builds, while impressive, have very little entertainment value included.

Maybe a community build that involves many members working towards a common goal that can eventually be showcased at Expo and TPF could be interesting, informative, satisfying and dare I say fun? Maybe, maybe not but it's worth a shot. It is just a hobby after all.

Pizza for lunch, washed down with a coke. Hard crust pieces thrown out back for the three legged raccoon to snack on. Beer count 0.

Better??

Well, in half a day we had Ben offering to CNC the wood if I paid for it with shipping from Wisconsin to Michigan. I have my friend lined up to build the cabinet. More progress in 6 hours than others in 6 months.

But this was all dependant on Jon Norris'blessing, which has not yet been given. Still awaiting a response.

Avi, if you have any shot of building this, you will need resources. Not accepting funds for the build will make it extremely difficult to accomplish. You may want to rethink that.

Either way, if Norris is cool with a community build, I would love to do my part on assembly and getting it off the ground. Riefepeters you are only 15 minutes from me. We could tackle the white wood together, with help from any other locals as well

Again, just ideas at this point until Norris chimes in.

Not harassing, just giving advice. Take it or leave it, no stress

John, I started that thread and I also shut it down which I have publicly posted, so please stop telling others you didn't shut it down. We are aware.

John, the reason I had the thread locked is because you had already missed 3 deadlines, Iceman was pulling funding, and he told a 19 year old kid to fuck off. It was ugly and there was no longer any shred of positivity there.

This is not the place for your personal check ins.

Start your own thread. Click the box that reads "start a new thread" and you can post all day long whatever you want.

On a lighter note, I just saved 15% on my car insurance...

No worries. I am simply amazed how quickly these threads can devolve into lunacy!

"Hey, it's only pinball"

To be fair, it won't be my version, it would be Jons. True to the original design with only modifications that may be necessary due to geometry or space requirements of mechs etc. And it would be a true community build that many can put their talents into.

That being said, Treybo's pin will have a different take on it, and I think that's great. That dude is a walking brainstorm of amazing ideas.

My only hope is this thread can rise up to a more positive place. Pinball is hard, but it is also fun!

Only moderators can ban people from threads.

But yes, the ignore feature is too often ignored on pinside.

Good point and it is noted.

That is the plan being implemented by some of us. It will be a community effort. Maybe a first in pinside history.

It's been made. But stern is pushing it's release into 2023 or possibly 2024 so they can upcharge $1,500 -$2,500.