I couldn't be more excited for this. Already trying to figure out how to make room.

Hahaha, dang. Only like 1% of me is willing to sell GotG, but that may increase. I'm really gonna have to put some effort into rearranging the garage to fit all this in.

Original themes are lame for the most part.

For the licensing fee, pin companies get all of the hard work teams of people put in, the millions upon millions in advertising to make the theme a household name, the humor, the story arc, etc....

There is currently nobody in pinball that has shown they can make an unlicensed theme even remotely as engaging as a licensed theme.

I'll give you a little bit on BKSOR. They brought in some strong music talent on that. It's still not as good as the licensed games, but it's probably one of, if not the best unlicensed game.

I don't know why that's so hard to believe. Marvel altered the content of the War Table presentation today for the new avengers game to be more sensitive to Chadwick's passing.

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Well that makes my original point even stronger. You take away the best game that i had classified as unlicensed, and that makes the pool of unlicensed games even more lame.

You have some info wrong already, Gomez said it's a brand new layout/game.

I'm sure stern will cry all the way to the bank as they sell more of this title than any other manufacturer sells of any of their titles.

Marvel just released pics.

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Video on insta: https://www.instagram.com/p/CEopPkLgHkk/

I'm in.

Premium for sure on this.

They showed him playing the game. It's Keith Elwin.

Also, Stern has a LOT of people working on a single game. Giving Keith sole credit would be super dismissive of the work the team puts in.

Game is selling like hot cakes. Everyone else is releasing teasers of teasers. Go Stern.

Can't wait to get this premium!!!!!!!

Don't listen to the naysayers. Your art is fanatic on this game and I can't wait to have it in my house to inspect closer.

I dunno... If these new targets work the way Chuckwurt thinks they do, I think it's a smart feature. A lot of features have to be looked at from the perspective of a player that just flails to a player who knows what is going on.

Mechanics like that drop target bank where you get -something- for knocking them all down rewards the people who play the game at a simple level, and having it deeper based on combinations/rows of lit ones for the more experience players makes the feature rewarding for everyone. It's just more rewarding to the more skilled players.

I typically don't pre-order anything, especially not a $7000 thing. I waited until I had played GotG a hundred times before I bought one.

With Stern, especially lately, it's relatively low risk. I've said in many other posts that a new avengers game would be a must buy for me and I hold true to that. The layout looks extra fun with some really flowing shots.

I honestly love the Infinity War and Endgame movies. They are two of my favorite movies of all time. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've watched them.

But I still feel like the comic theme for this pinball machine was 100% the right way to go. For the same reasons it was the right way to go for Deadpool. This lets them give a pinball twist to content that would otherwise be locked to movie lines and scenes. When I play this pin, I don't want to play through the movie Dragon's Lair style. I want to play the pinball version of the Infinity saga.

I'm probably also in the minority that is glad they didn't put the movie actors in the recently released avengers video game. I am enjoying the game a lot more not being bound to the actors.

The movie stones are different colors than the comic stones.

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I liked the stream last night, the playfield looks like it has some awesome shots.

My main concern right now is the complexity/fun in the rules.

I'm a below average player and my family is even worse. These rules seem pretty complicated for us.

Thanks Jack. Much appreciated. Who is the guest marvel host?

Cool! I watch a good amount of the Marvel streams so looking forward to seeing it!

Even though I do have concerns about my skill up against that ruleset, I'm still in on the game.

Y'all got to step up your game.

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If I recall correctly, Raymond said you can't stack thor and iron man multiballs but you can stack portal multiball with those.

Someone else can confirm?

Hopefully Raymond's view on co-op changes and we get it in the game.

There is a distinct experience difference between two people dividing up 6 balls on a single player, and two people each getting 3 balls to work toward the same goal.

I'm guessing he might not have kids?

It's not that big of a deal. Yes, the short glimpse we got into the game left some people (including myself) a little flustered by the sheer number of nuances to the rules, but Keith came in and cleared it up pretty easily. I think that's a completely normal dialog to have.

It's just a better UX experience is all. Having the separate player entities versus the steps to constantly change the number of balls per game multiple times a night.

If you go by the "just increase the balls" logic, every game with an adjustable number of balls has "co-op". It's clear that isn't the intent behind the term.

This stream is very calm and relaxed and I'm digging it a lot.

That was a great stream and it was much easier to tell what was going on with the game.

Hey, leave us terrible players alone. Limited flips won't come into play.....

Last night I thought about why I felt so different after one stream versus the other, and I think it boiled down to professionalism. The Marvel stream was obviously influenced by the way Marvel oversees all of their content. Jack was a little more restrained and focused in the Marvel stream as opposed to being off camera a lot chatting with other people in the same room, etc.. Having Justin Warner on there, a seasoned TV personality, really helped as well.

That's cool that they didn't force many guidelines on you. For whatever reason this particular stream was a really good one!

I bought day one as well and I'm expecting late october/early november, just to not get my expectations too high. I still need to figure out where the heck im going to put this game.

Looking forward to the streams!

Cherry Bomb is awesome.

Dang ya'll trying to make this game harder? I own GotG and still haven't gotten to Save Xandar.

That's fantastic news for someone like me. Especially if the game was set to easy with the outlanes. That means there is a level at which this game is super approachable by my family.

Here is a great explanation about how 1 ohm makes a huge difference for flippers.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/cooling-flipper-coils-by-aluminium-heat-sinks-or-pc-fans#post-2604942

Definitely this.

I used to think the rules were really complicated, but it just took 50-60 games before I really felt like I knew what i was going for in each gem quest, etc... I still think I have a lot to learn about the nuances.

What clicked for me was just forgetting about the overall picture of what to do in the game and focusing on the same shot/mode for a bunch of games in a row.

Based on my experience, any reasonable suggestion gets heard and considered.

Is the ball getting hung at the end of the subway when there are two balls?

Do you have the fixed subway that corrects that hang up?