I prefer the comic book style but I’m also someone who doesn’t like the avenger movies

The actor that played the black panther died yesterday...R.I.P

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Sorry I meant the second part about Steve.

Buy licenses and little of the assets.
These interpretations of a theme sell just fine.

Reminds me a bit of watching a cover band in college.

Please don’t believe everything you hear. Dude is a salesman, he’s not going to say yeah the pedophile did about 85% of work and I finished it.

I believe him in this case. Layout feels pretty Gomez-y all around; sword lock, Black Widow shot becoming the turnaround, Hawkeye left orbit that returns up a short ramp to the right flipper (on DP premium).

But the ramps are a dead giveaway. BOTH Deadpool ramps are the Batman 66 right ramp. Same part number and everything. If you were in a hurry to design a game, you'd probably grab a ramp from your previous game and re-use it. Twice.

Those are very good points

I believe he said in the same interview everyone is referencing it was an easy corner to cut to conserve the BOM for other areas. I actually agreed with him on that point, I'd rather the money went to something else

DP has some of the hallmarks of prior George Gomez games:
Across the playfield shot like on Avengers into the Sword ramp return like LOTR.
Drops like Avengers.
Left short turn around ramp similar to TF.
Left sided scoop shot like TF.
Spinner up the middle that screams back around to the left and pops on the right behind a feature - both just like MB.
ABSOLUTELY this is the best of Gomez all the way...

I agree. The real issue here will be the voice acting and call outs. Sterns track record sucks in this department.

I skimmed through the teaser and was able to pick out the following characters:

Iron Man
Captain America
Black Widow
Thor
Hawkeye
Hulk
Captain Marvel
Black Panther
Wasp
Ant-Man (Maybe)
Scarlet Witch
Falcon
Dr. Strange
Vision
Ebony Maw
Proxima Midnight
Cull Obsidian
Corvus Glaive
Thanos

All that’s missing is War Machine, Spider-Man, Winter Soldier, Valkyrie, Korg & Meek, and The Guardians.

All depends on the licence and the deal made, although we saw the Guardians and Spider-Man in Avengers, that’s the MCU and done by Marvel/Disney themselves

Theres no saying they include them in a deal to someone looking to license the Avengers. They could require completely different licenses and a lot of extra dollars. War machine and Winter solider should definitely be there at least you’d expect to see them.

Since it's comics, Stern only needs to deal with Marvel. See Spider-Man Vault. Sony had zero involvement.

Jumping ahead to minor details... might be nice if they made a lit shooter rod similar to JP2. Maybe offer different infinity stones lit up.

And if that's the case and it's an Infinity Gauntlet theme, there's a ton more characters. Galactus, Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock etc.

I'm sorry but "I feel" that making a pinball machine based off of a comic book VS a movie is a terrible business decision. "I think" DP would've been so much better had it been based off the movie. I just personally don't care for anything modeled after the comics. I know I know, I'll hear "but at least you don't have to look at crappy photoshop with weak ink." Yes also true. I'm worried by doing this the whole voice thing will be a terrible debacle like JJP POTC.
I love Avengers and will surely seek this out to play it but for home .... probably not.

Yeah I don’t know how I feel about it either

BUT... JP is great

Yeti is doing the art and it won’t be crappy, just the opposite

Actually believe comic book is the way to go

They can put so much more into the game not having to pay the licensing

I feel this is different than Deadpool. Avengers is even more suited to comics for pinball

Stern doesn't have the money/time/development resources to license and design the Marvel movie pin of your dreams. It's always going to be like Avengers 1.0 or GOTG at best. I'll take a Deadpool style game any day. It was never going to have Ryan Reynolds custom callouts. You just have to make peace with it.

I prefer comic art 100% for super hero themes

I prefer it for every theme. I have a SW comic edition and it looks amazing. The art in the latest Sterns has been fantastic.

I wish they would bring back Dirty Donnie

My ASLE is the best looking game I’ve got

I wonder how the video assets are going to be for this title. I really prefer when they have licensed video instead of Stern creating original video. That’s really my only concern. I’m sure Keith will design an amazing layout with fun code.

about DP, you forget the left lane back to the right & in reverse feed as AV for the LOKI lock
and because you name them, from a design point of view, TF is a real copy of MB : the mid-up playfield is simply mirored, the mid-down is the same...

For me keith, yeti, and ANY THEME WORK! I wasn't big on Iron maiden or JP2 themes BUT Keith has the ability to build a layout and ruleset that I can always get behind! And Jeremy has done the best art in pinball for the past few years! Turtles is awesome, Deadpool is also Amazing and Ghostbusters is his best effort to date! Iron maiden was PHENOMENAL too! I'm interested in anything Keith is involved with.... his machine's are pretty much the only NIB I'll invest in.

Comics all the way. Fuck the movie comic pins. Now if we could just a Batman Comic themed pin......

Don’t think I ever mentioned Sony? The licences for use of Spider-Man and The Guardians are likely separate entities when it comes to licensing so Marvel/Disney probably want a tonne of money for the use of the Avengers but Spider-Man and Guardians those are separate, you want to use those pay up!

People think because of infinity war and endgame that everyone now comes under the avengers umbrella, Marvel/Disney did that themselves within their movie universe, likely not the same freedom for everyone else looking to licence from them.

I expect it to be just like Jurassic park.

Sure if that’s your taste, but based on SM and SW comic versions, Distro’s are still sitting on stock.

Both of these pins came out much later after most who wanted it had already bought the earlier version. For superhero stuff I prefer the comics as that to me is the original version, which are often redone several times with films. For SW I prefer it based on the films as that is the version I remember growing up with and the comics came later.

Well I think if u don't already own SW's ur going comic book as for SM, the art kinda sucks and the music/callouts are horrendous.

That or this.

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And yet they can’t get enough Deadpool’s to keep up with demand. 2 years later people are still trying to find pros and premiums.

100% this!

I was just talking to a distro yesterday and he was saying how well the comic versions sell. If I was a distro I would stock what sells if I could. Just saying.

On a personal note. I do really like the comic versions for all the reasons people have mentioned. Also, for me, the movie versions of these characters and stories are not necessarily the definitive versions. I love the movies. But they are largely rehashed versions of stories from books, comics, tv shows, animated features, toys, video games, etcetera. I'm used to seeing these characters in different media, portrayed slightly differently, different actors, voice actors, artists, etcetera. Pinball is just one more. So it doesn't seem weird to me when it doesn't match the movie.

And don’t forget about this

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I couldn't be more excited for this. Already trying to figure out how to make room.

Might I suggest selling me that gotg pin of yours. Now you have money and space serious offer, haha

I thought for sure this statement would have unearthed O-din. He must be taking his break seriously.

Or Godzilla.

Will the playfield art & clearcoat turn into dust like all those Avengers did in Infinity War?

But with this one, just a finger snap and it's like new, every time.

Sigh....another boring super hero themed pin.
Can we stop making bazillion of these and try some new, original themes instead. And please, not more boring music pins either.

I love unique themes like junk yard, medieval madness, white water, scared stiff and so on. Those games were/are much more original and fun than most new pins being produced today in my opinion.

Unfortunately those aren’t the games that sell and Stern is in the business of selling games.

There are some recent titles like that: Dialed In, America’s Most Haunted, Hot Wheels, Oktoberfest

Those were big sellers, right?

Well, exactly. All the people that want original titles, Put your money we’re your mouth is and go buy the original titles. I’m sure you all bought a Dialed In at least.

Any expectations for a topper? Any guesses how long it’ll take to ship?

Elwin didn’t seem to put much thought into his toppers for IM and JP. Maybe throw the Infinity Gauntlet on top and lighting the stones is a backbox feature. I wonder if it’ll have an exclusive mode like JP.

Is a snapping infinity gauntlet too much to ask? It snaps when ball save happens, and the gems light up. When you do something good, you get a thumbs up...could be like a cross between addams family thing and the avengers gauntlet.

Hahaha, dang. Only like 1% of me is willing to sell GotG, but that may increase. I'm really gonna have to put some effort into rearranging the garage to fit all this in.

I see by looking at your collection you don't have quite a few of the following list of original themes in your collection... Dialed In, America’s Most Haunted, Hot Wheels, Oktoberfest, Whoa Nelly, Houdini, TNA

Maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and actually buy some of the original themes that are being made and more companies will go that way.