Quoted from pghpinfan:

This will be my first NIB Stern as I am locked in on an LE but question on resale value. Not that I am looking to sell a pin I don’t even have yet but typically which of the two models, premium vs LE tend to drop more in used market? Seem to be both about the same like $1200-$1400 off retail but I looked at only a few titles. Realize this could vary by title but curious in what people’s experience had been.
As I said I am in on an LE but it was a tough call for me between LE and Premium. Not a huge fan of the yellow but can see myself adding most of the upgrades to the Premium (shaker, speaker, side art)

Quoted from J85M:

Often depends on the title, Keith’s games have held their value well but that’s because his previous 2 games are brilliant!
Munsters is really the only title in recent memory that’s bombed in value, over here in the U.K. you cannot sell a Munsters unless it’s priced insanely cheap.

Quoted from MikeS:

According to the Stern Insider podcast it sounds like there will be a topper exclusive mode ala JP for this game as well. Lots of good info in the podcast pertaining to the rules as well. From the sounds of it, this is going to be really fun game!

Quoted from MikeS:

On Keith's games it seems like the LEs hold value well but I'd buy whichever version you like the best. Personally I'd go Premium because I don't like the yellow and don't find much value in the HD glass, but LE would be nice because you can get it sooner and likely won't lose much on it if you did have to sell.

Quoted from DaveH:

It’s not in the Pro, because Stern didn’t want me to buy this game. I realize the actual intent of Stern was to get me to upgrade to the Premium. But I’m a Pro guy. When I saw the ramps, I was enthralled. But then I saw the Pro and was disappointed. I’ll obviously save final judgement until I play it, but that changed instant buy to wait and see.

Quoted from Saddath:

HD glass is awesome. I got it on every game I have. And will have it on every future one. Such a difference.
But yes you don't have to go LE just for that. I can buy them locally for 150.

Quoted from Saddath:

Now there is no more space in my gameroom .

Quoted from Whifflebat:

Those animations and music look and sound pretty good (as does the Black Panther one from a few days ago)! I was a little concerned after some of the dodgy animations on TMNT. Can't wait for the Wednesday reveal.

Quoted from pghpinfan:

This will be my first NIB Stern as I am locked in on an LE but question on resale value. Not that I am looking to sell a pin I don’t even have yet but typically which of the two models, premium vs LE tend to drop more in used market? Seem to be both about the same like $1200-$1400 off retail but I looked at only a few titles. Realize this could vary by title but curious in what people’s experience had been.
As I said I am in on an LE but it was a tough call for me between LE and Premium. Not a huge fan of the yellow but can see myself adding most of the upgrades to the Premium (shaker, speaker, side art)

Quoted from WizardsCastle:

Dammit, I promised myself I wouldn't do this again, but I'm in on an LE!
I resisted when TMNT came out, and then Keith pulls this shit!

Quoted from WizardsCastle:

Dammit, I promised myself I wouldn't do this again, but I'm in on an LE!
I resisted when TMNT came out, and then Keith pulls this shit!
Have a feeling this is going to be one incredible game! Hopefully Stern gets this one out without too many QC issues.
Funny how I had my money sitting for JJPs next big thing, and now because of the radio silence, its more money in Stern's pocket. They need to really fix up their communication with customers.

Quoted from J85M:

How does Sterns HD glass compare to say InvisiGlass or PDI?
I have only had PDI in the past, this will be my first experience with Sterns HD glass, was already thinking about getting a sheet of PDI to swap it out, so curious what your take or anyone else’s is.

Quoted from chuckwurt:

I thought ZY confirmed that due to a tight deadline they were not able to make three art packages.

Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

This seems to be a recurring theme here on Pinside. JJP needs better communication, faster turnaround, and because of that my money's going to Stern. I wonder if JJP is actually reading any of this. I can see their efforts to keep people engaged with their Easter egg-type Facebook posts, but it doesn't seem to be doing the trick. I really would like to know if they're keeping up on this Pinside banter and if they're at all worried about whether or not they're losing business.

Quoted from J85M:

How does Sterns HD glass compare to say InvisiGlass or PDI?
I have only had PDI in the past, this will be my first experience with Sterns HD glass, was already thinking about getting a sheet of PDI to swap it out, so curious what your take or anyone else’s is.

Quoted from wesman:

Sooooo....why didn't they either wait a bit for the unveiling or state art pending, or just have two models?

Quoted from J85M:

How does Sterns HD glass compare to say InvisiGlass or PDI?
I have only had PDI in the past, this will be my first experience with Sterns HD glass, was already thinking about getting a sheet of PDI to swap it out, so curious what your take or anyone else’s is.

Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

This seems to be a recurring theme here on Pinside. JJP needs better communication, faster turnaround, and because of that my money's going to Stern. I wonder if JJP is actually reading any of this. I can see their efforts to keep people engaged with their Easter egg-type Facebook posts, but it doesn't seem to be doing the trick. I really would like to know if they're keeping up on this Pinside banter and if they're at all worried about whether or not they're losing business.

Quoted from TonyVrd:

Totally agree, JJP just needs to show the damn thing, people would be perfectly find with just seeing it and knowing it doesn’t ship out for another two months. I so wanted to wait for the rumored GnR but I saw AIQ and just had to pull the trigger on a LE. Plus it’s Keith Elwin, his last two titles have been phenomenal and he’s still improving upon his skills as a designer, it’s a win win situation.

Quoted from MurphyPeoples:

Perusing threads on Pinside, I believe that there are more people "IN" on the LE, than there will be LE's made.
Great to see the appeal is popular. I recently sold 2 JJP's this year - Hobbit and Pirates - and didn't think I'd see anything interesting until
I saw this Elwin game. I'm paid on the Premium with Zach.

Quoted from wesman:

Sooooo....why didn't they either wait a bit for the unveiling or state art pending, or just have two models?

Quoted from MikeS:

According to the Stern Insider podcast it sounds like there will be a topper exclusive mode ala JP for this game as well.

Quoted from LOTR_breath:

This sounds incredibly awesome!
Battle for the Soul Gem Mini Wizard Mode
Qualified after one round of collection Avengers, this unique wizard tracks how many times you use your flippers, and you have to complete the mode under a certain number of flips to beat the mode.
You have seven or eight shots you have to hit but you have to do it with less than 40 flips. The flips countdown every time you flip. When you hit one of the shots it adds flips. The whole time you are in this mode the ball saver is running, but if you drain you lose a certain number of flips for you don’t want to let the ball drain. If you get through all the shots with flips remaining, then you get the SOUL GEM.

Quoted from cooked71:

That really sucks.
All we can hope is that it’s some lame mode like JP. I really don’t want to be spending and extra $1200Aud for a topper that’s pretty ordinary.

Quoted from J85M:

How does Sterns HD glass compare to say InvisiGlass or PDI?
I have only had PDI in the past, this will be my first experience with Sterns HD glass, was already thinking about getting a sheet of PDI to swap it out, so curious what your take or anyone else’s is.

Quoted from chuckwurt:

I heard the mode is something you’re really going to want.

Quoted from LOTR_breath:

You have seven or eight shots you have to hit but you have to do it with less than 40 flips.

Quoted from cooked71:

These animations are looking pretty cool...
https://www.facebook.com/136972659243/posts/10158846517899244/?vh=e
https://www.facebook.com/136972659243/posts/10158846506479244/?vh=e

Quoted from cooked71:

Nup. I’ve decided I hate the mode already.

Quoted from cooked71:

Quoted from MikeS:
According to the Stern Insider podcast it sounds like there will be a topper exclusive mode ala JP for this game as well.
That really sucks.
All we can hope is that it’s some lame mode like JP. I really don’t want to be spending and extra $1200Aud for a topper that’s pretty ordinary.

Quoted from Aussiepinwiz:

Theoretically speaking. I agree with you. Yet others want to buy one at that price, but Stern don't release enough stock! Not for JP, nor most games. Probably a smart business decision to keep prices high.

Quoted from ViperJelly:

Some smart people on this forum, can we figure out a way to trick the machine into thinking it has a Stern topper?

Quoted from Mr68:

I'm calling my topper, Avenger Dust

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Topper prices have gotten out of control, for not much in return. Now $600 to $1,000 for $35 worth of plastic and LEDs! Munsters topper was loaded with features and priced at $425, seems quite reasonable now and that was only some months ago. It has loads of integrated gameplay, with a Raven coo-coo clock announcing each hour of the day, as well. Come on Stern stop taking advantage of us with so much less than what you gave us on Munsters and Black Knight SOR. Both those toppers were arguably worth the asking price.

Quoted from chuckwurt:

Sure? I heard it’s amazing.

Quoted from kvan99:

I agree, sometimes less is more, it's definitely minimalistic. But it's helluva lot better than BKSOR and TMNT. I'm not a fan of the Final Fantasy look. Btw, is it the same guy who did JP?

Quoted from John1210:

What bksor did you play? The animations on the one I played was fantastic... crisp, inventive. Very well executed. Turtles is a little more on the average side.

Quoted from cooked71:

Careful what you wish for chuckwurt . Wait till they release the $1999 Stranger Things topper that unlocks a Mega Demigorgan Vs Eleven Psychokinetic Multiball.
Or even worse they sell you a topper that unlocks a special UV light mode......

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Topper prices have gotten out of control, for not much in return. Now $600 to $1,000 for $35 worth of plastic and LEDs! Munsters topper was loaded with features and priced at $425, seems quite reasonable now and that was only some months ago. It has loads of integrated gameplay, with a Raven coo-coo clock announcing each hour of the day, as well. Come on Stern stop taking advantage of us with so much less than what you gave us on Munsters and Black Knight SOR. Both those toppers were arguably worth the asking price.

Quoted from J85M:

How does Sterns HD glass compare to say InvisiGlass or PDI?
I have only had PDI in the past, this will be my first experience with Sterns HD glass, was already thinking about getting a sheet of PDI to swap it out, so curious what your take or anyone else’s is.