AVATAR LE Any tips or suggestions for making it flow better

Change the flipper coils...I posted about it some time ago on RGP - probably here, too...a little search will get you more specifics...but I'm trying to run out the door to get to work ...but basically I used the same coils in Iron Man, but reversed. IM's left on Avatar's right, IM's right on Avatar's left. That way the stronger coil is on the right (for the ramp shot) and the slightly weaker one is on the left (so you don't destroy the target bank)....but both will be stronger than stock. The ball will SCREAM and make the game a flow battle maniac!

#4 10 years ago

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TomGWI

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12y 143K 10,945 156

I never upgraded my coils but mine were tightened down to the bushings and needed some play. Once adjusted the flippers felt great.

#5 10 years ago

MFB

Bomba

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Wheaton, IL

12y 33,150 126 8 18

Just sell it to me

#6 10 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

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Quoted from TomGWI:
I never upgraded my coils but mine were tightened down to the bushings and needed some play. Once adjusted the flippers felt great.

If it feels good, it feels good! The Avatars I'd played (including my own) always felt like the timing was just a hair off - I also had Iron Man at the time and I felt like I had a really good sense of timing on the shots. Since they're similar games, I figured "why not try the IM coils on Avatar" ...and it gave the game the snappy timing I felt it really needed.

#7 10 years ago

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hank527

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What about using the upgraded LOTR coils? They are alot stronger. I may try them, but don't know if they are too strong. Tempted to try but want opinions if anyone has tried this. I put the upgraded coils in family guy and it shoots awesome.

#8 10 years ago

GAC

Rarehero

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Quoted from hank527:
What about using the upgraded LOTR coils? They are alot stronger. I may try them, but don't know if they are too strong. Tempted to try but want opinions if anyone has tried this. I put the upgraded coils in family guy and it shoots awesome.

Just try my IM coil solution. You don't want the left coil TOO strong cuz it'll just be too much for the 3-bank target area.

#9 10 years ago

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hank527

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Quoted from Rarehero:
Just try my IM coil solution. You don't want the left coil TOO strong cuz it'll just be too much for the 3-bank target area.

Basically IM or AP coils then? Did you use the same coil strength for both flippers. AP uses different coils and Iron Man seems to have several different flipper coils according to Marco

#090-5032-ND

#10 10 years ago

RJL

Benepinballs

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11y 0k 883 22

It will never flow correctly, I will take it off your hands if you need it gone

#11 10 years ago

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Gerry

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Syracuse, NY

11y 66,900 3,808 26

Put the LOTR's in there hank...

I put thos in 24, CSI and IM... with coil pulse on HIGH..

Its an amazing difference..

If you think its too strong, set coil pulse to medium, and enjoy...

But i think you will leave it on high..

I know how you like your games to play

@ Greg, i have never damaged a thing on any of the above games, Iron monger made it through just fine...

I think the 3 bank on avatar will survive no problem..

BTW happy new year to both of you guys

#12 10 years ago

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Rarehero

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Quoted from hank527:
Basically IM or AP coils then? Did you use the same coil strength for both flippers. AP uses different coils and Iron Man seems to have several different flipper coils according to Marco
#090-5032-ND

Again -
Whatever Iron Man has on the right, put on Avatar's left. (Weaker coil)
Whatever Iron Man has on the left, put on Avatar's right. (Stronger coil)

Sorry I don't have the numbers in front of me.

(Not sure what's on AP - that's irrelevant to this discussion.)

#13 10 years ago

HAZ

hank527

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Quoted from Rarehero:
Again -
Whatever Iron Man has on the right, put on Avatar's left. (Weaker coil)
Whatever Iron Man has on the left, put on Avatar's right. (Stronger coil)
Sorry I don't have the numbers in front of me.
(Not sure what's on AP - that's irrelevant to this discussion.)

AP has that same set up with one weak and one stronger.

#14 10 years ago

GEP

Gerry

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Syracuse, NY

11y 66,900 3,808 26

Greg, dont make me fly out there !

#15 10 years ago

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Rarehero

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Quoted from hank527:
AP has that same set up with one weak and one stronger.

I don't have the manuals in front of me...just lettin' ya know what I did and it rocked.

#16 10 years ago

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MnHotRod

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Burnsville, MN

11y 83,700 1,104 7

Funny, my bride complains about the flippers being too weak every time she plays it. Doesn't help that she plays Star Trek right next to it all the time and the flippers on it are very strong.

#17 10 years ago

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Cheeks

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Lockport, IL

11y 82,950 2,633 41 2

When you guys say the Avatar flippers are "too weak" are you not making it up the ramp even when you hit? I suck at hitting the ramp, but when I do, it makes it up without a lot of trouble. Are the stronger flippers helping your "aim" at the ramp?

#18 10 years ago

HAZ

hank527

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Update.

I put in 5020T no diode coils and they were way too strong. So I pulled out the right coil 5065 and replaced it with a 5030 which is pretty common.

The game seems to perform a lot better. The ramp shot feels right and not really really weak as it did with the 5065. Its not a cake walk but if you aim it right it makes it pretty quick.

Rarehero suggested using a 5030 on the left and a 5032 on the right. Right now I'm happy with factory 5025 on the left and a 5030 on the right flipper.

1 week later

#19 10 years ago

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hank527

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