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The manual calls for 38 7/16" OD rings but I only used 7 or 8 so I am not sure where the other 30 go.

I use Titan rings on all my machines

Regardless what brand of rubbers you use, white on Avatar are awesome! Translucent are also a great fit but personally white just pop on Avatar.

Wire fix is best, although I'm sure I have seen others use a slightly bigger configuration of post rubbers on the exit from the pops but the spring is best, contact Stern maybe about one?

Does anyone else have issues with the ball staying up in the pop bumpers for what seems like forever? Any way to turn the coils down to make them less aggressive?

Just got a pro myself a few weeks ago. I went with Titan translucents, with blue flipper rubbers. Looks fantastic imo.

I also swapped in Comet LEDs, mostly their Optix super flux or whatever they are called bulbs color-matched for inserts, with a mix of standard natural white and blue flat tops in the gi. Looks great, there is some flickering mainly in attract mode that I'm sure the LED OCD would resolve, not sure I'll get one or not though, I think it looks pretty great as-is... Huge improvement over the stock incandescents.

I really need the wire/spring SDTM fix though - nobody knows of a source? I'm wondering if it's not just an off the shelf spring you could get from a Ace hardware store or similar. Anyone have a good picture of it when not installed?

IMO you don't need this spring. Just over size and stack the rubbers on the bumper pin exiting the pops on the right side. I went with white and I get a few SDTM but if your paying attention you should be able to nudge it to a flipper.

Would love to see some pics of the translucent bands and your results with your LEDs.

So it turns out I do have the spring "fix" on my game but it was stuck behind the rubber of the post below it. Speaking of which, does anyone have a strong opinion on which post it should be installed on? Top or Bottom? Currently it is installed on the top post but it looks like others have moved it down to the one below it. Has anyone tried both locations and have a preference? thanks!

It is covered in some depth (with photos) earlier in this thread.

Put the spring on the lower post, it works far better.

There should be a clear plastic washer under the spring and a little metal (swapped mine out for plastic) washer should be provided to go under the clear plastic post to keep the spring and its hook off the playfield.

Picture below from earlier in the thread, hope that saves you some time and helps.

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So the people I purchased this machine from never once cleaned it in their 6 years of ownership. So far it is cleaning up nicely except for the mylar between the pop bumpers. Dirt is stuck all along the edges of the mylar cut out. Do any of you have any suggestions on how to get rid of the "edge" dirt? If not has anyone ever removed/replaced this mylar? If so how did you do it? Thanks!

Mine was the same. I think the adhesive from the Mylar squeezed out a little and dirt stuck to it. I used a label remover sparingly. Spray a bit on a cloth and then rub it around the edge of the Mylar. Make sure to clean the playfield afterwards as you wouldn't want the label remover to get under the Mylar. Worked great and it now looks like new.

Just call Stern's Tech Support. Talk to Patrick Powers or anyone else who answers in that department and tell them you want the STDM fix kit. Stern provided those for free to everyone who bought the pin. Getting this little kit from them should be easy. It's a little tough to install, but it works perfectly. Unless they changed the installation directions, don't put the spring on the first post they tell you to. It doesn't work correctly there. Drop down to the next post and put it on. If you have any problems, get back on here and maybe I can help you. It's been along time since I put mine on. It's an ingenious little idea and makes a WHALE of a difference in game play.

Mike in Kentucky

Ah . . . just read your follow-up post. Yes, the bottom one is best. I tried them both and after talking with Patrick at Stern, I THINK they printed new installation directions telling to put it on the bottom one.

Ok Avatar owners I need your opinions, a mod for Avatar.

Below is a picture of STLE and its LED side rails (one of the best features Stern introduced into an LE but have never repeated again).

Obviously the Enterprise is probably the most iconic image from Star Trek...

If Avatar had this same feature, what would you all say is the most iconic part of Avatar? I was thinking the seeds? But what are your thoughts?

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Those dragon thingys!

I have these installed on my LE (matches the chrome)

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Couple shots of mine with translucent rubbers, blue gi bulbs under slings, couple under the lower side plastics and in between the upper lanes. Couple blue around link, maybe near the amp suit also. Natural whites otherwise. I need to experiment with adding a few more, but don't want to color bomb it too badly...

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Yeah the Banshee's where my second idea, ideally the design cant be too complicated, the Enterprise on STLE is about as complicated as they can get, I have some prototype Ironman rails I have had cut but not ready to show yet until I can get the lighting figured out.

They look nice, but I try to avoid having the pins name repeated too much, its why I have never been a fan of toppers that say the title of the game above the title of the game.

Beautiful, white or translucent rubbers look stunning on Avatar

White is the only colour I put in GI, I don't like all this coloured GI lighting and on Avatar your right Paul, on Avatar bright white GI really makes the playfield pop and it's one of the most beautiful playfields I have owned.

I'm being redundant here, but I must once again affirm that my Avatar pin would be the LAST one to ever leave my collection. In fact, I think someday I will sell everything I have but keep it and it only! I haven't played my Avatar for a couple of months, so I spent about an hour playing it this evening and it was as thrilling as ever.

I've been playing all my pins lately, and while I enjoy each of them, the Avatar has everything I need for my pinball 'fix' experience. It is such an exciting pin to play with a lot of fast action. Plus, (hope I don't jinx myself here) it NEVER needs repairing! It always works flawlessly. I don't care how many used or NIB pins I have, they all need repair work every time I turn around. Not Avatar! It just keeps on ticking. I'm SO glad I bought this pin!!! Aren't you glad you made the same decision?

I agree with most machines but I changed my GI in Avatar with several blues, ice blues, and purple with a mix of white and translucent rubbers and think it looks amazing. Looks like your on Pandora. This is the only game I make an exception to colored GI, to each their own.

I bought an LE due to the beauty of the game alone and the game play kept me wanting more. This is a keeper for a long time now. The game is challenging and fun.

I would love TimeBandit to come up with a GI mod for Avatar, that way we could get the white GI 90% of the time but also get that Pandora like lighting with the Blue and Greens and Purples

Would anyone be interested in a GI mod for Avatar if TimeBandit could make it a possibility?

For Seeds mode: blue green and purples with whites twinkling (representing the seeds floating about the playfield) would look awesome!

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Heeeeck yes! I'm in

How likely is this to happen?

Can't hurt to ask TimeBandit I'll pm him later.

Paul that's a risk I am willing to take

I actually bought an Avatar a few months ago from a local operator. My buddy offered to pay for it and keep it at his house while I get my basement finished.

Anyway, I'm going to pay him for it and it's getting taken this week to a fellow Pinsider's house for a tear down and rebuild. LEDs, flipper / pops rebuild / magnet repair (started locking on and was unplugged) and a thorough cleaning. It's absolutely filthy. He's going to strip the topside, tumble everything, fix anything that's broken and put it all back together.

I can't wait. I've bought a few pins from him over the years and he does a phenomenal job.

I'm excited! I'll have to take some before / after pictures.

It's a Pro. It was routed all its life, but there isn't any playfield wear. The cabinet is a little dinged up, but that doesn't bother me. Once it's all cleaned up, it should be really pretty. At the end of the day, I'll have much less in it compared to what I see them selling for in the marketplace.

Avatar seems really a mediocre game but it's the game I shout at the most and always have a thrill playing it.

Some of them I do, but not all. I did my Metallica and TWD, but none of the others. I'll definitely go back and check out the pictures. I'm interested to see what everyone has done.

Picked up a nice clean well modded pro. The game is way more fun than I thought it would be. Pinball pro speakers, under cabinet lighting, topper, mirror blades , color coded LED'S, several figures added to playfield, blue lighted flipper buttons, shaker, green plastic protectors, amp suit upgrades, and leg protectors.

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What are the amp suit upgrades? I wasn't aware of any mods for the suit (beyond adding the Colonel figure inside). I've thought about pulling it out and maybe trying my hand at paint upgrades to make it look better, but...

Yeah . . . same question here. I am not aware of any upgrades to the amp suit.

You are going to LOVE this pin! I have had SO many pins . . . the big named ones: Medieval Madness, Twilight Zone, The Walking Dead, The Addams Family, The Simpsons Pinball Party, and many more and all I can tell you is my NIB Avatar Pro will be the last one to ever leave my place.

By the way, adding a sub-woofer to it was the best MOD I've ever done. I've done it to all my other pins too, but for some reason, Avatar can shake my house from that sound!

Thanks,

Mike in Kentucky

Amp suit has a big sword in left hand and a big machine gun in right. It is hard to see on the picture unless you blow it up. I don't think these came on game. I also have a shaker which is great on the pin. I agree Pintucky as I have a lot of top games that I love but this game is just pure fast fun.

I guess I'm not very observant! Ha. Glad you solved that puzzle for me. I DID put the 'little man' inside the suit.

Yeah . . . I have the shaker in mine too, and again, the only pin that ever came CLOSE to the vibrations this one makes was my Iron Man. I bought mine new in 2010 and it still looks brand new! And while I'm constantly having to fix all my other pins or make adjustments, etc., Avatar just keeps on playing with no problems. I remember when it came out how people said it was a 'cheaply built game', mostly because of the thin wood for the PF. But, it might be cheap but it has been the only pin I've ever had to play flawlessly from Day One!

Thanks for the comments.

Mike

Where did you get the green plastic protectors? They look pretty cool.