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Attack From Mars - Scratch Build


By WizardPinball

11 days ago



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#1 11 days ago

Hello there.

I've been working for a while now trying to get started on a project I've wanted to do forever. Since Attack from mars is most certainly always going to be out of my price range...I decided that I'd just have to build one. I've been measuring, planning and preparing to put this all into a forum post for some time. So here we go.........

First thing I did was to get some of the plastics that are used in the game. I bought these 2nd hand.

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Secondly...I was able to find a set of ramps here on pinside. ordered those as well.

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Then I was able to pick up all the plastic playfield inserts from pinball life along with the flipper buttons, start button and launch button.

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After I was able to secure what I thought at the time to be the hardest to procure items, I went to my local hardware store and bought my nice Plywood 4x8 blank. This was going to be my cabinet and back box.

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Got another order in from pinball life for some other items, and got my corner braces in as well.

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Then I started working on my playfield in fusion 360. This is probably going to be one of the hardest things (other than programming from scratch in MPF (Mission Pinball Framework) the coding for the game). So far I have some of the simple holes and the major openings for the larger playfield pieces cut out. One of the pictures shows the blank field with the holes cut and the other shows the same with the playfield overlayed on top of it. This will take some time for me as I am new to fusion 360 as well. It's a lot of fun though, just time consuming.

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Recently I received my 4 aliens in the mail, again from a user here on pinside!

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I've also started work on the prototype rails out of brass rod.

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So far that's it. I'm hoping to attach the leg brackets to the inside of the cabinet and get the legs attached tomorrow. I'm also beginning the programming portion for the game tonight as well. using the P3-ROC and MPF (Mission Pinball Framework) for the hardware and software of the game.

One last thing...I am actually going to be making 2 games at the same time. This AFM homebrew and another homebrew project that's been in development here for 4 + years. This is an original game that has not been made as of yet. Super excited to announce it hopefully before the end of the month.

Thanks to everyone who reads this and I hope that you enjoy the ride as I hope I do!

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#2 11 days ago
Quoted from WizardPinball:

Hello there.
I've been working for a while now trying to get started on a project I've wanted to do forever. Since Attack from mars is most certainly always going to be out of my price range...I decided that I'd just have to build one. I've been measuring, planning and preparing to put this all into a forum post for some time. So here we go.........
First thing I did was to get some of the plastics that are used in the game. I bought these 2nd hand.
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Secondly...I was able to find a set of ramps here on pinside. ordered those as well.
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Then I was able to pick up all the plastic playfield inserts from pinball life along with the flipper buttons, start button and launch button.
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After I was able to secure what I thought at the time to be the hardest to procure items, I went to my local hardware store and bought my nice Plywood 4x8 blank. This was going to be my cabinet and back box.
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Got another order in from pinball life for some other items, and got my corner braces in as well.
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Then I started working on my playfield in fusion 360. This is probably going to be one of the hardest things (other than programming from scratch in MPF (Mission Pinball Framework) the coding for the game). So far I have some of the simple holes and the major openings for the larger playfield pieces cut out. One of the pictures shows the blank field with the holes cut and the other shows the same with the playfield overlayed on top of it. This will take some time for me as I am new to fusion 360 as well. It's a lot of fun though, just time consuming.
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Recently I received my 4 aliens in the mail, again from a user here on pinside!
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I've also started work on the prototype rails out of brass rod.
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So far that's it. I'm hoping to attach the leg brackets to the inside of the cabinet and get the legs attached tomorrow. I'm also beginning the programming portion for the game tonight as well. using the P3-ROC and MPF (Mission Pinball Framework) for the hardware and software of the game.
One last thing...I am actually going to be making 2 games at the same time. This AFM homebrew and another homebrew project that's been in development here for 4 + years. This is an original game that has not been made as of yet. Super excited to announce it hopefully before the end of the month.
Thanks to everyone who reads this and I hope that you enjoy the ride as I hope I do!
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Holy hell, that straight plywood cabinet is going to be heavy!!!
Why cut a new playfield? Can you just buy one from CPR and save all the work?
This is a daunting task, have you following any of wallybgood’s threads? He’s built too many games! I think he’s already made an AFM, definitely a huge resource.

#3 11 days ago

Good luck with this project.
Attack from Mars is great pin.
I'm curious to find out what your final cost will be.

#4 11 days ago

Isochronic_Frost I thought about it.....but trying to make all of the pieces that I can to keep cost down and make this even more super awesomer!!!!!!!!!! Hahahaha! I have not looked up wallybgood.....I'll definitely do that though. Thanks!

#5 11 days ago

bowman9 Thanks! I've really been enjoying it......as well as spreading the time between my other one as well. can't wait to release that one to the public here soon.

#6 11 days ago

Good luck with this project! I second the "my gosh is that going to be heavy" when you put everything inside of it.

I have restored an AFM, so have extra used parts. Let me know if you are interested or just want to get new. Send a PM please.

#7 11 days ago

jbovenzi Thanks. I'll not be using the standard boards and PSU's etc....so it might be a bit lighter! ha! And awesome about the spares.....I'll for sure hit you up!

#8 11 days ago

Looking forward to watching your progress! I always thought it would be cool to build a machine from scratch. Good luck!

#9 11 days ago

sk8ersublime Thanks. I'm looking forward to it as well!

#10 11 days ago

I’m here for the awesomeness and admiration!

#11 11 days ago

Dallas_Pin Hahahahahahahahaha! I hope I can deliver awesomeness.....but if not....please tell me I'm being dumb and tell me to fix something!

#12 11 days ago

I totally want to do this. Seriously. Jelly.

#13 11 days ago

I don't get it ..... CGC AFM classic is 5995.. Why build one.

#14 11 days ago
Quoted from hoby1:

CGC AFM classic is 5995.. Why build one.

Because; don't you like to build things?
Just because you can buy a 1960s mustang... would you get more enjoyment out of restoring it yourself?
That said; given he's building his own cabinet... and his own PF ... it seems unlikely his bom cost is going to be anywhere near the 6k pricetag you quoted.

#15 11 days ago
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

Holy hell, that straight plywood cabinet is going to be heavy!!!
Why cut a new playfield? Can you just buy one from CPR and save all the work?
This is a daunting task, have you following any of wallybgood’s threads? He’s built too many games! I think he’s already made an AFM, definitely a huge resource.

Yeah definitely search Wally’s threads, he’s built many classic games from this era from scratch. He’s a legend. Good luck! This always blows my mind when guys pull this off and I’ll definitely be following.

#16 11 days ago

Zitt DO IT!!!!! Hahahahaha.

#17 11 days ago

I myself am a diy’er, so i applaud what you’re doing...

but with the precision, graphics and all parts and geometry of things that attach to the playfield, I’d strongly recommend buying an afm playfield, the rest is easy. Overlaying on top of wood with inserts and all that’s needed to clearcoat many times, there’s too much to screw up that Mirco or cpr has already perfected.

Btw you’re going to spend more than the cost of a machine to build one from scratch.

Go check the guy that’s building an Addams family from scratch, he’s going to be over 6k in to get it finished, probably way more than 6k

I’m stoked to see the custom machine you’re going to do for sure!

#18 11 days ago
Quoted from Zitt:

Because; don't you like to build things?
Just because you can buy a 1960s mustang... would you get more enjoyment out of restoring it yourself?
That said; given he's building his own cabinet... and his own PF ... it seems unlikely his bom cost is going to be anywhere near the 6k pricetag you quoted.

Your right.... It will one more

#19 11 days ago

hoby1 ......."That I can answer in one word.........Trad--"........money......it's money. And I love making things. Lol! (Sorry for the classic musical plug......sigh....couldn't help it).

#20 11 days ago

chisox thanks. I'm getting pupmped up for both. It's a lot of work but....over time...more and more will get done.

#21 11 days ago

Chosen_s I hear ya. But I've been keeping cost way low and have been getting really great deals online and with people on pinside here (which I'm very grateful for). So far it's been very inexpensive (for pinball).with everything needed to control it, solenoids and bumpers, legs, etc... I'm an art major and love a challenge......I should be able to make the playfield for a lot less than what they run new. +.....Learning lots.......will everything be perfect........(I hope so......but no).....will I have fun and have a cool game to show for it.....heck yeah!

#22 11 days ago

This sounds like a Home Depot commercial but;

You can do it, we can watch.

It’s definitely doable. I get down to Rochester a lot for work so when it’s done I plan to invite myself over.

#23 11 days ago

EJS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! For sure you can help beta test my other one too. I'll upload info about that later this week or next. This game really started just as my wife really wanting one and us not having 6-8k laying around.

#24 11 days ago
Quoted from WizardPinball:

EJS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! For sure you can help beta test my other one too. I'll upload info about that later this week or next. This game really started just as my wife really wanting one and us not having 6-8k laying around.

Sounds good, happy to lend a hand too if you get into any tricky situations.

#25 11 days ago

EJS Thanks a bunch!

#26 11 days ago

Nice. My buddy did the first remake. Even w/ the $1500 nbafb donor (for cab n boards) the project still cost More than a new afmr. That said, Lots of parts needed to be custom made as they simply weren’t available back then... of course, he didn’t make his own playfield though.. if you can do everything yourself and not farm anything out who knows. good luck! It’s a fun project for sure!

#27 11 days ago

tilted81 I am excited. Yeah...and if it ends up being more (which I hopefully will not have happen) At least its over a period of time and not all at once.

#28 11 days ago

Ambitious!

How are you Cadding the playfield? Do you have a used one to measure off of and inputting that? Are you going to clear it yourself? I’d have to agree with other opinions, it makes so much sense to just buy a new complete playfield.SO much time to cad it, do art, pay for wood, vinyl print, clearing, and SO much opportunity to screw stuff up that it seems better to concentrate on other aspects and leave that one alone?

Are you also building a wire harness?

This sounds like ALOT, alongside another homebrew project holy crap. I’m 3 years Or so in on one and can’t imagine doing 2 at the same time. Good luck!!!

#29 11 days ago

Mbecker yeah, It's kinda scary....but.....I'm not planning on making them both all the time. I'm going to switch off. I will be doing everything hardware and software new using a P3ROC and their boards, and reprogramming the game basically from nothing but maybe try to just use the original code as a guide. wiring will be done myself as well. I like CAD and it's not that bad.....you just need a micrometer to get exact measurements, I have a full size playfield scan for placement and then I just have to indent the depth of the plunge cut a bit to grab the inserts so they can have a small ledge to rest on. Bevel the edges of where the scoops and such are and boom! I like metal work and soldering, welding, etc. So.....this should be fun. the only part I'm dreading is the programming which I've never done. However....my father is a systems analyst so....hopefully I can just annoy him! HA!

#30 11 days ago

wizardpinball so you are also not going to run the original game software, instead create your own code (+animations) in MPF?

AWESOME.

#31 11 days ago

mgpasman yup! I may try to rip the animations from the visual pinball version but if not...I'll have to put that animation art major to use!

#32 11 days ago

If you are doing new code... and using a P3Roc;
Why not make AFM-re-remake and put in so it runs on the P3?
That'd be my dream... I'd even help create the upper PF module. :O

#33 11 days ago

zitt that would be awesome.....but .....it's my wife's grail game and so she wants to keep it stock 1995 version. I love the idea of a re-remake though!

#34 11 days ago
Quoted from WizardPinball:

zitt that would be awesome.....but .....it's my wife's grail game and so she wants to keep it stock 1995 version. I love the idea of a re-remake though!

Good luck with the project .
I was thinking it would be great to put in some clips from Mars Attacks if your programming it .
See if you can talk to your wife out of it being 100% original

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#35 11 days ago

This is such a great project! Will follow for sure, same as I'm doing with that TAF from scratch thread.

I've been thinking about building my own MM from scratch over the last year and these "do it myself from scratch" thread's just increase my eagerness to get started If I do decide to actually start my crazy dream then I will buy a playfield and not make it myself though.

Been checking prices for needed parts and with most things added up it will be about the same (or even a bit more) than to buy an original working MM. The difference would be my pin having lots of parts being new and in great condition compared to a 25 year old worn game so might still be worth it, plus I will be having lots of fun while building it. Making the wire harness myself kind of scares me though haha.

#36 11 days ago

What’s the plan for a wire harness?

#37 11 days ago
Quoted from WizardPinball:

tilted81 I am excited. Yeah...and if it ends up being more (which I hopefully will not have happen) At least its over a period of time and not all at once.

You're describing a credit card payment . Seriously save a bit and put a nice down payment on a new machine. I try not to discourage DIYs, but with a pinball machine you almost always wind up spending more to build than the value of a legit machine. Then again they make for entertaining threads !

#39 11 days ago

BazilBLast hahahaha....that's a no go. I asked her again and mentioned that movie (which I love)...and all I got was an "eeeww". Hahahahaha!

#40 11 days ago

Lhyrgoif luckydogg420 the wire harness is all new. I'll be wiring it up as a homebrew from scratch game. I've been following along with deadflips game and pinball mayhem's game and wanna do it. And if theres a game you wanna make, just go and do it! Why not......I obviously love real pinball, but thought it would be a great fun project and a learning experience for the game I've wanted to make for years.

#41 11 days ago

Look forward to following along, quite the ambitious project. I've been thinking about doing similar for classic sterns, quicksilver, star gazer, seawitch etc, building using p3-roc and 'modern' off the shelf mechs and MPF programming (or skeletongame if I want to learn a bunch of new stuff).

Good luck.

#42 11 days ago

borgdog exactly. That's basically the reason for me to do this. So I can learn more for my next one. Out working on the brackets now for the legs! Post later hopefully.

#43 11 days ago

If the software runs on p-roc and the hardware is basically same to an original AFM, this would mean that other users could make changes to the code and graphics quite easily and created "AFM continued" -versions and people with an original AFM could enjoy the new code by purchasing a p-roc board and a computer to run the code?

#44 11 days ago

This game will mean so much more to you than a Chicago or even an orginal,I wish I had the skill to do something like this

#45 11 days ago

I wonder what the finished BOM will be...hope you keep track of that.

#46 11 days ago

rockrand I hope so. Having fun with it at the very least!

#47 11 days ago

@pinballew I am for sure. So far I'm on track to save quite a bit.....time will tell. Hahahahaha! And not all my parts are new.....we just love the game and I'm ok with getting used older parts as long as they are nice and functional.

#48 11 days ago

Was able to get the legs brackets installed today...however found out the old legs I was going to use until later on to save some $$$ won't work as the front and backs are 2 different heights. Pinball life here I come. Hahahahaha

#49 10 days ago
Quoted from WizardPinball:

I love the idea of a re-remake though!

Just share the CAD file (and art) with me when you're done... I can use the upper part of the CAD to create a PF module for P3.

#50 10 days ago

Cool good luck

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