That logic only makes sense if you're targeting hardcore hobbyists, which they're not. People who just want some games in their gameroom and don't follow all *this* go to gameroom stores/retailers with a top 10 list and say "Hey I want these games". AFM is on that list. There are a lot of people who'd rather buy new from a retailer than a rando from a forum or craigslist. This product fills a need for that type of customer. For everyone that cries "refake" or "but you can get a nice original for $x" on a forum, they sell 100 remakes to people who don't care about forum-land.

Again, that's how hobbyists think. Dr. Joe Schmoe who wants a pinball machine for his house calls a gameroom store and says "I want this brand new game with a warranty" ...they deliver, he has his game. He doesn't know or care what a Pinside is or what Scuzzball McGurk is selling on Craigslist or eBay.

I bought MMr, got it May 2015, still have it and really enjoy it. That being said, I'm highly unlikely to buy another PPS game. For me, charging for the color update was a greedy dick move for short term dollars while ignoring the long-game value of customer loyalty. They got my $200, but will forfeit future thousands. I was also considering buying some of those 3D translites...but decided to close my wallet.

Always remember:

-They do not have the development cost of other companies. B/W designed the games already. Their custom stuff was forged on MMr already.

-Their market isn't only hardcore forum maniacs and DIY hobbyists.

These remakes have an audience, it's mostly not "us"...there's more profit per unit vs. other companies and their newly developed titles. They don't have to sell many for it to be worthwhile for CGC.

Doug from CGC explained in one of these threads that pricing will be revealed on March 24

All WPC'95 games have it to hold the lights instead of having a 'swing-out' light board like the earlier WPC games.

It's not just MMr, they're copying the original design of WPC'95 games. Monster Bash, No Good Gofers, Scared Stiff, etc....all of those original games have these "light tubs" attached to the backglass.

Well we're a few years in on MMR. Have there been any board problem reports? Mine has been fine. Sounds like location ones are doing fine.

Everything is repairable. All I know is that almost every B/W game I've ever owned has had burnt connectors, battery damage, and other issues ...I know these games won't have those issues, at least!

I had both and sold AFM. RFM is cooler.

That being said, I'm intrigued by AFMr. I love the giant display and new animation.

Dude, have you played RFM? There are literally zero video modes. Zero. It's pure pinball and all projections from the monitor are interactive targets. AFM has a video mode!!!!

Such a weird complaint. Every pinball machine has the same "scene" because it can't do anything otherwise. The late 90's B/W games tried to make one toy (MM castle, AFM ship, CP's boxer) into multiple characters through sound clips ...but you were always seeing the same toy. RFM gets you tons of characters and scenarios due to the hologram animation. You get the bar scene....then another, then another, then another! It has more variety on the playfield than any other game.

So hitting the same ship in AFM or the same castle in MM isn't repetition? Just such an odd complaint that is at odds with the reality of these games. Oh well, enjoy that AFM video mode lol.

I'm glad RFM is still cheap. It's a hidden gem...people can get a great game at a great price due to some odd prejudices by "purists" who don't even understand what the game is, even if they've played it. Meanwhile, people lost their shit over GB's Ecto goggles, which is a mini version of RFM's effect....yet pretty much does nothing lol.

You misunderstand. I don't care if you love it or want to chop it up with an axe....I just want some honesty. To say RFM has "video modes" is flat out wrong. A video mode is when the game stops...and you play a game on the display. Zero pinball happens during this time. That never happens on RFM, it's constantly physical pinball action. This game has had that misconception for years, and it's baffling....people still think it's the same as Baby Pac-Man....sometimes video, sometimes pinball - that's not the case with RFM. SWEp1? Sure, that game blows lol ...but RFM is pure PINBALL. If you don't like the game, that's fine.

I actually think the pricing is quite fair considering today's market. People said after MMr there's no way they'd sell AFMr for less....and look, they are! ...and the LE is essentially the same price as MMr but you get way more stuff...the topper, the upgraded saucer lights, the giant screen, blades (I think?), etc...

It's weird, I've had an AFM, wasn't overly thrilled with it...sold it...still have/love my RFM. I'm strangely intrigued by AFMr LE. I'm not going to rush out and order one, mind you....but I'll be watching.

People who assumed CGC/PPS would be greedy and not go lower in price than their first game. Like you said....idiots. lol

Yeah, it just makes more sense to get the SE then, unless you really really don't want color dots!

What other ruleset would you want with AFM? Most people claim it to be perfection.

To 1000.

Yeah, Standard and SE are "unlimited" ...no reason to jump on it unless you wanna be first.

My meds, eh? Awaiting your apology.

Fantastic. RFM has zero. AFM has one.

To order. Production in May.