Cool glad there will be more of this awesome pin for people to get and maybe now people wont keep trying to buy mine every week lol. Definitely not fan of green trim and still not sure about large screen but i suppose it will look nice with upgraded graphics. Also curious what the tri color lightning on the ships do exactly . Glad the game play is the same as many others were talking about prototype features which i figured wldnt be added. Now it comes down to pricing of course and i think if they can have it at 7500, 8500 and 9500 it will sell pretty well considering a minty original sells for 8-11k depending on the restore and mods. More pinball is good pinball especially of such a fun pin...

Pretty sure the speaker kits are rgb adjustable?

Wow my original reimport looks better lol..... these new thick clearcoats look great but sure do chip around edges easily....

I dunno ..just saying while any new clearcoat looks great and thick...they all seem to chip around edges rather easily.... look at the new sterns and mmr .

Well there u go.... yes new one

Wait till you see the scoops at the end of the show... they will be chipped away. It sld have mantis or cliffys from factory imo.... like stern is doing now.

While i agree .. this newer thick clear seems to chip at edges really really easily and breaks off in pieces with art work.... as to where the older games it just gradually wore down slowly over time. This is a known wear area on afm as is in front of drop target bank and scoop behind mothership. Some sort og protection sld be there from factory imo....

Im really curious how they went about doing the strobe as its a huge part of afm.....

Well i can tell u the new one will be more than u can pick up a nice used one for. I thought afm was one of the more fairly priced used pins considering how many were only made, popularity of it, its ranking and how awesome it is.

Red and black look excellent

Not bad if true but after shipping and adding upgrades to classic it will b more like 7200-7400? Still not bad imo for a nib afm with upgraded color and shaker..... cheaper than a original in most cases

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Yea well not everything can be perfect lol

U can b both lol.... i play alot but also collect very nice originals or restored originals.

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But afm has the 4 moving Martians and 3 target motorized drop bank and drop target behind it. . I dont think theres much difference in the cost between the 2 really. The castle is little more complex but overall they both use about the same amount of stuff.

I have mm and afm basically beside one another and from a b.o.m standpoint they are very very similar as far as coils and mechs and parts. Afm has some cool lighting with the mothership leds and strobe tho.

Thats not much difference really and u forgot the special things on afm like strobe /board and mothership pcb with leds.. Afm has more elaborate metal scoop and subway system compared to the plastic tub/moat on mm . The castle is super cool on mm and definitely more to it tho. Id bet they were fairly close b.o.m wise back in the 90s tho. Both have some better things than one another and are also fairy similar. Im just glad im able to have both beside one another.

They actually added to the mothership leds and added 2/3 colors depending on model. Not sure about how they did the strobe but id guess they just used leds this day in age? I guess it will have same effect as a actual strobe light?

I really like the video mode and u only get it once every 5 games or so.... at least on mine. Theres also a special version of the video mode but never got it.

Really ? I dont get it every game? Is there a setting for it or something?

If in tournament mode the sol awards just points..... so theres that....

Sometimes when you shoot the Big-O-Beam, a cow is displayed and a female voice says: "Would you look at the size of that cow?!" and a moo is heard.
Sometimes when you shoot the Tractor Beam, a cow is beamed up. (View animation).DOHO is also seen in this animation.
Whenever one of these animations appears, hit the Launch button repeatedly for lots of mooing sounds. Do this for both of the ramps and then the next Video mode will be Cow Attack Video mode, where the
saucers has been replaced with mooing cow....

As much as i love having originals.... if these prices are true i may sell my original and get a le as its my favorite pin ever to play..

Even with shipping , color upgrade and shaker you wld still be under 6500 which wld be very nice.

Original mm are still selling for fairly more then mmr. Nice restored ones with color dmd and some other mods are still regularly selling for 9500-12k . A mmr with color upgrade and shipping was around 8800. Depending on thr price of afmr (6500 plus shipping and color upgrade) i dont think it will effect original afm to much considering a nice one with color dmd and other mods is usually only around 7-7500. . Guess will see what happens tho once prices are released....

Really depends on the price of new ones (after shipping and color upgrade) id guess and how nice yours is and if it has any upgrades. A nice original unfaded one with color and some other mods was not really that mu ch to begin with (7k give or take). I see no reason u sldnt be able to get around that back for a very nice original . Even know mmr is available i just paid more for a restored original with mods than i cld of gotten a nib for. There are still lots of people that collect and prefer original ones believe me.

One thing i hope they did on afmr that wasnt done on mmr is turn off the backbox lighting like the blackout mod does for the original. Its one of my favorite mods on my wpc95 pins but is really really is a great addition afm , in particularly during strobe mb . Still curious how the strobe mb looks with the newer technology also.

a brand new afm for 6500 but after shipping (300- 400?) and the color upgrade ((which is a must imo) im guessing that will be 400 again? Nib afm to your door for 7300-7500 is not bad at all for such a great game.

Then you dont know the afm market..... 8k for a le with all the extras is a great deal. Was thinking of selling my nice original to get one but dont tbink i will

Like that matters in this hobby ..... look at bat 66 and the fact u cld get a met pro or AS that has better value for half the price. Also i believe a alien with shipping and the upgrades u mentioned will be quite a bit more than 7k ? People want what they want and i think the price point of afmr will sell well .... especially the le.....

Looks like with shipping and the mods u mentioned it puts alien over 8k ? I just went to the page and added it up?

Alien seems to be more than that? 6450 for base game and 550 for 27in screen and 800 for fiber optic ramps? I believe shipping is around 350-400 . Im curious bc im interested also

So website isnt correct?

Good to know ...thanks

One thing i hope they did on afmr that wasnt done on mmr is turn off the backbox lighting like the blackout mod does for the original. Its one of my favorite mods on my wpc95 pins but is really really is a great addition afm , in particularly during strobe mb . Still curious how the strobe mb looks with the newer technology also. Anyone know much about this? Some things on the newer are better and then some things on original are better ......glad to have choices tho.

I hope so... its such a great effect especially in a dark playing environment ...

Agreed afm plays fast and furious..... watching the alien videos .... not real impressed so far with it and especially the lack of pop bumper and sling action. This was also my issue with full throttle. I spent alot time trying to help a friend get more action out of the slings and pop bumpers with the final conclusion that it is what it is ......

The bill ung type leds or the game leds in general?

So nice to see afm being enjoyed bc every show ive been to there is never any there..... exciting times in pinball ......

O yea for sure ..all my pins must have leds in them.

Anyone get strobe mb yet? How does it look and does the backbox lights go off during it?

Wasn't sure if they turned lights down or had a after party like pintastic .....

Im actually planning to also as it seems to be the best show in the country....

That is one thing i dont like also.... i like to color match my inserts or sometimes even change clear omes to color as it looks better in some cases. My current afm inserts look very nice and vibrant now and much better than the warm white leds the prior owner had in all them.

The gi lights are standard leds that can be changed easily but not the inserts....not sure about the flashers eaither as i really like different color alien ship flashers also.

Yea a le for 8300 delivered is a very fair deal.... even has me thinking of ordering one even know im a huge collector if original stuff. I have a very nice unfaded modded one and am really thinking of selling it to get a le . Ugh .... decisions lol

Yea your probably right.... plus there are things on the original i much prefer over the remake. It was just a idea to get a nice new afm (my favorite pin) but i did just pay more for a restored original mm over mmr bc i do perfer it. Ill probably just get my afm powdercoated black , add bill ung kit, and paint my ships. Still wondering how strobe is on new one and if the backbox can be programmed to dim when gi does (Really great effect on afm). Also are the flashers able to be changed on playfield and backbox? Hopefully they have a few in allentown so we can find out . I like my color matched inserts and different flasher colors. Also i love the mothership gozmod that has green leds but turn red when ship is hit... wonder if new one does that as its a great effect? 20161008_114109 (resized).jpg20170201_044004 (resized).jpg20161008_114151 (resized).jpg

Thax ... i just had a bad moment of judgement for a few day's lol, bc i had a bunch of pm's with some nice offers that basically cld of gotten me a nib new one .

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Yea i think i will ...im just gonna upgrade some more things on it. It just plays to well to let go....

Yea it was in storage for most its life and then in a dark basement for the other . Shes a beauty and has a well above average playfield for a original afm. Plays very fast now....

Interesting....im keeping my original lol.... wldnt know where to start working on this if i had a issue.....FB_IMG_1490557848624 (resized).jpgFB_IMG_1490557842319 (resized).jpg

Also looks like the flashers are pcbs which i dont like bc i like different color ones for different areas especially the ships....

Theres a blackout mod for wpc95 pins. I was hoping they programmed the backbox to cut out when the playfield gi does but i guess not. Its a really great effect in a dark environment especially on afm. The playfield sld be all dark except the strobe under the mothership....

I believe afmr uses led strips inside the tub and uses pcb flashers.

Get the 35.00 blackout mod for your wpc 95 pins especially afm.....

Not all the time ....i rarely get strobe mb whiich makes it that much better.... maybe different roms give strobe and video mode more often but i don't get eaither much. Mostly start attack wave, start lock, points ....

Not really free shipping bc they are 7300 without shipping so your paying the 300 shipping. Awesome pin enjoy....

I always perfer original but thats just me. I do like some the features on the remakes but perfer things on the original over them .

The original one u played sounded like a mess and its probably good u passed on it for the price lol.

No one knows but it was mentioned that some kind of protector will be on at least the front of the scoop on the le. If i were a afmr preorder buyer i wld go ahead and order the motorized drop target bank protector and the mothership drop target /scoop protector as that area gets beat up even on originals. I cld see the new thick clearcoat just chipping away in them areas rather quickly.

Yea that thing was amazing to say the least....

Its very dim and looks to just b a 3 led strip facing down under the ship area. Its has very little light spead past the mother ship area.

Not the issue as the one i saw/ played it on had backbox lights off and it was still very dim and almost unnoticeable. Im sure it will be easily modded to make it better but man the high voltage strobe on the original is pretty sweet especially in a dark room.

Maybe it will be fixed on production pins. I think just mounting it differently cld make a big difference.

The one i saw was more cool white than warm but just not intense and not spreading the light well.