Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

Sorry, but Stern dimple talk is just annoying at this point. There is no dimple-gate. It's not a thing. I picked up 3 new Sterns last year and none are dimpling any more or less than any other Stern ever.
The SMVE does have some ghosting inserts (definitely a thing), but nobody notices but me and Stern is going to replace it.
And for all the JJP strokers, wasn't this a Mirco playfield?

I haven't seen any Sterns do that.

Quoted from hank527:

Why is Rick the way he is? Seems as if he is toxic for his company.

Quoted from hank527:

Why is Rick the way he is?

Quoted from o-din:

I haven't seen him on here lately. Maybe he will let this one sink or swim all on it's own this time.
Nothing like making a bunch of promises and then having to pass the blame later on.

Quoted from hank527:

I think this one sinks.

Quoted from LTG:

I can't speak for Rick.
But if I read through over 300 posts ( on one of several threads ) of people bitching and attacking something I was trying to accomplish. And so much information that is wrong. I'd probably be a little testy too.
LTG : )

Quoted from beelzeboob:

I think the classic model looks great...just like the original, and it allows people to mod a new version of a classic game to their liking.

Quoted from beelzeboob:

I think the classic model looks great...just like the original, and it allows people to mod a new version of a classic game to their liking.

Quoted from o-din:

Cool! I may order one and mod it with incandescent lights just like the original.

Quoted from o-din:

Cool! I may order one and mod it with incandescent lights just like the original.

Quoted from Manic:

maybe you could also put back the high voltage strobe board and bulb

Quoted from rotordave:

Yeah, but you guys posting on the price don't get the business model ....
Just hypothetically ...
100 units sold at $8000 = 800,000 less say $5000 per unit cost = $300,000 profit.
To make the same profit at $6500 retail, they'd need to make and sell 200 machines. ($1500 profit x 200 = $300k)
Selling less machines for more profit is what a business dreams of doing.
(The $5000 is an arbitratory figure, I think it would actually be far less than that, but the figures above make my point)
rd

Quoted from LTG:

I can't speak for Rick.
But if I read through over 300 posts ( on one of several threads ) of people bitching and attacking something I was trying to accomplish. And so much information that is wrong. I'd probably be a little testy too.
LTG : )

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Plus, I’ll buy you a beer if you tell me you like the green trim (you have to seem sincere).

Quoted from jfh:

Agreed. But Rick had no one to blame but himself. He is the one that made the promises. He was the face of the project. He talked a good game, encouraged people to call if they had issues, etc.. But as soon as things went bad, it was always someone else's problem or responsibility. When those that really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt started calling him out on his BS the tide turned, he created his own forum (same issues, just far less public). Took his marbles and went home. And that's just with MMR.
People bitched about and attacked Jack too. But, unlike Rick, he took responsibility for his actions and mistakes and got a lot of credit here for taking and acting on Pinsider's suggestions (see Hobbit playfield redesign).
It's really hard to feel sorry for Rick.
Getting back on topic - I hope whoever is the decision maker for CGC reconsiders that slime green on the LE. I'm not sure I've seen a single positive comment about it. It appears stainless is an option on the LE, but that's not much of an option.

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Thanks for the feedback!

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Give us through the end of TPF to reassess trim options.
Thanks for the feedback!

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Pricing and product details will be released at 5pm CST on March 24th. I believe most people will be pleasantly surprised.

Quoted from MoonwalkerArcade:

If Chicago Gaming is gearing up their own production line could the cost come down since you don't have so many hands in the cookie jar?

Quoted from teekee:

Lime green... whoever made that decision should be fired... TODAY... yesterday!

Quoted from Mrawesome44:

Depending on how much price is I'll pick it up. Afm has always been overpriced hopefully standard won't be too crazyv

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Let me try to address a few common questions.
Regarding the delay in announcing pricing on AFM, we want to afford all of our dealers the opportunity to start selling AFM at the same time. The art assets for dealer websites are being distributed early next week which should provide enough time for dealers to complete webpages before the start of TPF. We had somewhat wrongly assumed that dealers would be unable to take orders without pricing. ALL DEALERS ARE PROHIBITED FROM TAKING DEPOSITS BEFORE PRICING HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.
Pricing and product details will be released at 5pm CST on March 24th. I believe most people will be pleasantly surprised.
Regarding the XL Display,
1) It is in fact exactly the same aspect ratio as the original display.
2) Diagonally, it measures roughly 19” which provides almost twice the viewable area.
3) As for MMR, Athyrio Games was contracted to created all new artwork at 4x the resolution of the original. They did an amazing job.
4) The huge display with the Athyrio graphics is really striking. I’m looking forward to hearing everyone's feedback at TPF.
5) If you don’t like the RGB illuminated speakers, there is an operator setting the allows you to turn the LEDs off.
Chicago Gaming will be assembling the games. In the seventeen years I have been with CGC, Churchill and CGC have assembled over 50,000 arcade games. In addition to our own proprietary products we have done full arcade game assembly for Konomi, Sega, Namco, Global VR and Raw Thrills. Recognizing the unique challenges of pinball assembly, we have spent the last four months setting up our line, designing production fixtures and staffing up with a core of employees with extensive pinball experience.
I don’t think a game can be accurately assessed from a handful of cellphone photos. Please come to Texas Pinball Festival and see for yourself. Even if you don’t come to see AFM, TPF is always a blast! Plus, I’ll buy you a beer if you tell me you like the green trim (you have to seem sincere). I hope to see you in Texas!
--Doug Duba

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Let me try to address a few common questions.
Regarding the delay in announcing pricing on AFM, we want to afford all of our dealers the opportunity to start selling AFM at the same time. The art assets for dealer websites are being distributed early next week which should provide enough time for dealers to complete webpages before the start of TPF. We had somewhat wrongly assumed that dealers would be unable to take orders without pricing. ALL DEALERS ARE PROHIBITED FROM TAKING DEPOSITS BEFORE PRICING HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.
Pricing and product details will be released at 5pm CST on March 24th. I believe most people will be pleasantly surprised.
Regarding the XL Display,
1) It is in fact exactly the same aspect ratio as the original display.
2) Diagonally, it measures roughly 19” which provides almost twice the viewable area.
3) As for MMR, Athyrio Games was contracted to created all new artwork at 4x the resolution of the original. They did an amazing job.
4) The huge display with the Athyrio graphics is really striking. I’m looking forward to hearing everyone's feedback at TPF.
5) If you don’t like the RGB illuminated speakers, there is an operator setting the allows you to turn the LEDs off.
Chicago Gaming will be assembling the games. In the seventeen years I have been with CGC, Churchill and CGC have assembled over 50,000 arcade games. In addition to our own proprietary products we have done full arcade game assembly for Konomi, Sega, Namco, Global VR and Raw Thrills. Recognizing the unique challenges of pinball assembly, we have spent the last four months setting up our line, designing production fixtures and staffing up with a core of employees with extensive pinball experience.
I don’t think a game can be accurately assessed from a handful of cellphone photos. Please come to Texas Pinball Festival and see for yourself. Even if you don’t come to see AFM, TPF is always a blast! Plus, I’ll buy you a beer if you tell me you like the green trim (you have to seem sincere). I hope to see you in Texas!
--Doug Duba

Quoted from rubberducks:

A good, measured post. Something we could do with more of from company reps.
I don't think the illumination of the speakers is the only issue. Their bracket or retainer looks rather flashy, car audio like and doesn't fit the look at all. I think something more inconspicuous would go down rather better.

Quoted from pezpunk:

It's a pinball machine about martians blowing up tourist attractions. It's hard to imagine any object on earth more suited to looking flashy. I'm pretty sure no pinball designer has ever received the directive "make it look more inconspicuous."

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Let me try to address a few common questions.
Regarding the delay in announcing pricing on AFM, we want to afford all of our dealers the opportunity to start selling AFM at the same time. The art assets for dealer websites are being distributed early next week which should provide enough time for dealers to complete webpages before the start of TPF. We had somewhat wrongly assumed that dealers would be unable to take orders without pricing. ALL DEALERS ARE PROHIBITED FROM TAKING DEPOSITS BEFORE PRICING HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.
Pricing and product details will be released at 5pm CST on March 24th. I believe most people will be pleasantly surprised.
Regarding the XL Display,
1) It is in fact exactly the same aspect ratio as the original display.
2) Diagonally, it measures roughly 19” which provides almost twice the viewable area.
3) As for MMR, Athyrio Games was contracted to created all new artwork at 4x the resolution of the original. They did an amazing job.
4) The huge display with the Athyrio graphics is really striking. I’m looking forward to hearing everyone's feedback at TPF.
5) If you don’t like the RGB illuminated speakers, there is an operator setting the allows you to turn the LEDs off.
Chicago Gaming will be assembling the games. In the seventeen years I have been with CGC, Churchill and CGC have assembled over 50,000 arcade games. In addition to our own proprietary products we have done full arcade game assembly for Konomi, Sega, Namco, Global VR and Raw Thrills. Recognizing the unique challenges of pinball assembly, we have spent the last four months setting up our line, designing production fixtures and staffing up with a core of employees with extensive pinball experience.
I don’t think a game can be accurately assessed from a handful of cellphone photos. Please come to Texas Pinball Festival and see for yourself. Even if you don’t come to see AFM, TPF is always a blast! Plus, I’ll buy you a beer if you tell me you like the green trim (you have to seem sincere). I hope to see you in Texas!
--Doug Duba

Quoted from Doug_Duba:

Give us through the end of TPF to reassess trim options.
Thanks for the feedback!

Quoted from BentleyBear:

Is there a distributor for international customers ?

Quoted from NeilMcRae:

I like the green.
I love the speakers and the speaker lights and the DMD and the topper!
I've told my disty I want one and would like it ASAP
Cheers,
Neil.

Quoted from NeilMcRae:

I've told my disty I want one and would like it ASAP