Attack from Mars
Bally, 1995
Attack From Mars (Remake - Classic)
Chicago Gaming Co., 2017
Attack From Mars (Remake - LE)
Chicago Gaming Co., 2017
Attack From Mars (Remake - Special)
Chicago Gaming Co., 2017Quoted from stangbat:No, they are not. They are the exactly the same from a mechanical standpoint as on WPC-95 games. They even use the same type of flipper optos for the cabinet buttons.
Thanks for clarifying, i rarely have to lift the playfield on my MMR so couldn't honestly remember.
Quoted from Pahuffman:Who will be doing the manufacturing?
Chicago Gaming made an assembly line just for this.
LTG : )
Quoted from jackofdiamonds:From what Ive seen so far:Remakes suck
Riiiiight because there has been....let's see......MMR.....and and and.......Remake(s) 
Quoted from kidchrisso:Why didn't they put the buildings on the back board..was that not origional?
No. Prototype had the outerspace and spaceships and planets. Production was just the black wall.
LTG : )
Quoted from rotordave:Yes, I think that's the case.
Look at this animation while Trent was playing. Looks to be smaller dots.
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Yup, definitely...they're using the same technique they did on MMR, which makes sense....that's gonna be CGC's "color style"...color the score dots, but keep them the same size, and use a "mask" of new graphics over the old animation dots.
Thanks for taking pics!
Quoted from Manic:I'm fine with a remake too but remember what we learned about Churchill being fully in charge with MMr... you WILL keep what comes in the box no matter what.
A whole lot of MMr customers got stuck with factory second faded insert PF's and now have a machine worth less than the next customer. I know I wouldn't buy one with the faded inserts on the secondary market.
I will wait and see what happens this time around.
Quoted from Manic:I'm fine with a remake too but remember what we learned about Churchill being fully in charge with MMr... you WILL keep what comes in the box no matter what.
A whole lot of MMr customers got stuck with factory second faded insert PF's and now have a machine worth less than the next customer. I know I wouldn't buy one with the faded inserts on the secondary market.
I won't mount some vocal campaign about it this time as if people didn't learn all they needed to know about this company LAST time... well it's hopeless.
But good luck to everybody regardless... (not sarcasm)
non-issue in my view.
Quoted from kidchrisso:Why didn't they put the buildings on the back board..was that not origional?
Quoted from LTG:No. Prototype had the outerspace and spaceships and planets. Production was just the black wall.
LTG : )
A reference photo I took of an unmodded/stock game that I serviced a while back:
The speakers look rather weird IMO. Like cheap upgraded car speakers mounted in a hacked up rear parcel shelf.
Style is totally out of keeping with the rest of the machine. They look so out of place that they catch the eye more than anything else - especially being so brightly LED lit.
Quoted from rotordave:I've never played a remake until today.
The MMR at the show, the flippers were a little weak (and aligned too low)
I guess they have the standard BW flippers assemblies and coils? And they work the same as fliptronics?
On MMR, the flipper assemblies are the same as the Williams games. Unfortunately, the Fliptronics circuitry was eliminated and the flippers are driven from the same hardware/sub-boards that drive the other coils. I personally don't think the new circuits are as robust as Fliptronics and think that the flippers fade more on the remakes, but others who own the remake disagree.
Quoted from NeilMcRae:non-issue in my view.
Yup. That's because you didn't get stuck with a defective PF on a MMr. People don't care until it happens to them.
That's how they got past the entire thing.
Quoted from metallik:On MMR, the flipper assemblies are the same as the Williams games.
They looked to me more like the reproduction parts that have been available for some time that are not as robust as the original Williams parts. Like those kits pinballlife sells. Hard to believe I got a threatening PM from PPS the first time I brought that up.
Quoted from Manic:Yup. That's because you didn't get stuck with a defective PF on a MMr. People don't care until it happens to them.
That's how they got past the entire thing.
No mine has it, but it doesn't affect game play so in my mind isn't defective, I put the diffuser in and job done. Compared to stern playfield issues this is minor, imo.
Quoted from o-din:They looked to me more like the reproduction parts that have been available for some time that are not as robust as the original Williams parts. Like those kits pinballlife sells. Hard to believe I got a threatening PM from PPS the first time I brought that up.
Threatening what?
Quoted from Pinballlew:Threatening what?
Lawsuits, whatever. See why there's no love lost here.
Quoted from Pinballlew:Threatening what?
To pull off his big boy pants? 
Quoted from o-din:They looked to me more like the reproduction parts that have been available for some time that are not as robust as the original Williams parts. Like those kits pinballlife sells. Hard to believe I got a threatening PM from PPS the first time I brought that up.
I would expect the supply of actual OEM parts is long gone. Are there multiple sources of repro WPC flipper parts now? I *have* ran into batches of bad links (they'd snap after a few hundred games) and some questionable milling on plungers, but this was 4-5 years back. Who all is making WPC parts besides PBL?
Getting love letters from Mr. Personality is just part of the hobby 
Quoted from o-din:Lawsuits, whatever. See why there's no love lost here.
He threatened to sue you over your opinion....lol crazy
Quoted from rubberducks:The speakers look rather weird IMO. Like cheap upgraded car speakers mounted in a hacked up rear parcel shelf.
Style is totally out of keeping with the rest of the machine. They look so out of place that they catch the eye more than anything else - especially being so brightly LED lit.
I agree the lit speakers really catch the eye and not in a good way. They probably thought this was a good idea to "add value" but maybe let the owners decide if they want that same, omnipresent cheap chinese color changing LED effect that is on even the cheapest kid's toys these days. Why compete with the color display in an dead area?
I'm strange anyways as I seem to be the only person who doesn't see the purpose of drawing the eye to a game's speakers.
Unless you simply MUST show off some badass speaker inserts you've found (understandable) then why bring attention to an area where there is absolutely nothing going on?
Never mind the extra glass reflection they add - to me this even hinders the gameplay but I'm the odd man out on this issue.
And I like LED mods generally... I'm hardly an anti-LED Luddite.
Quoted from Manic:I'm strange anyways as I seem to be the only person who doesn't see the purpose of drawing the eye to a game's speakers.
Unless you simply MUST show off some badass speaker inserts you've found (understandable) then why bring attention to an area where there is absolutely nothing going on?
Yup .. speakers are to be heard, not seen.
Quoted from chadderack:To pull off his big boy pants?
Hopefully you meant "pull UP"...otherwise his threats have gotten considerably kinkier
Quoted from metallik:Yup .. speakers are to be heard, not seen.
Thank you - there's a whole two of us then!
Quoted from Manic:Hopefully you meant "pull UP"...otherwise his threats have gotten considerably kinkier
And whose pants are we talking about here, O-Din's or Rick's?
Quoted from metallik:I would expect the supply of actual OEM parts is long gone. Are there multiple sources of repro WPC flipper parts now?
There are multiple makers of these parts. PBR probably being the highest quality.
The most obvious difference I noticed is the original Williams pawls used a hardened black bolt that takes an allen head wrench on one end and a nut on the other, and the pawl is less prone to getting bent out of shape. I re-use the originals whenever possible.
Quoted from metallik:Yup .. speakers are to be heard, not seen.
One of the few cases where I like lit speakers is on T2. Those are the eyes, so it makes sense. There aren't too many pins where the speaker grills are really integrated into the design of the game.
Just me but I would rather have the trim in chrome rather than the green on the top dog version.
Not well versed in this game but from the video I've seen, I believe I noticed that there are some flashing lights in the back box. Did the original have that as well?
Like others, watching the pricing announcement.
Guessing pricing.
Classic $6995
Next $7995
Le $8995
Hoping I am high on all of these ....we will see.
Id go middle and change trim to gloss black and put an alternative topper up there.
Quoted from Pinballlew:Here is a good story from pinball news to check out:
http://www.pinballnews.com/learn/churchill/index.html
One thing I noticed after reading that article is that chances are this guy won't be around to clearcoat the third remake. Can you guys guess why?
Quoted from SuperPinball:One thing I noticed after reading that article is that chances are this guy won't be around to clearcoat the third remake. Can you guys guess why?
Not wearing a respirator? He's giving his lungs a doublecoat
Quoted from BagAJellyDonuts:Not well versed in this game but from the video I've seen, I believe I noticed that there are some flashing lights in the back box. Did the original have that as well?
Pretty much ALL pre-Stern solid state pinballs have flashers in the backbox.
Quoted from SuperPinball:One thing I noticed after reading that article is that chances are this guy won't be around to clearcoat the third remake. Can you guys guess why?
Not the sharpest tool in the shed. That has to be the worst stuff to be breathing.
Quoted from ultimategameroom:It's only a test spray....
I don't think the fumes care if it is only a test spray...they are going to enter your lungs.
Quoted from SuperPinball:One thing I noticed after reading that article is that chances are this guy won't be around to clearcoat the third remake. Can you guys guess why?
They're tired of having to glue his playfields back together when he's done.
If I can get metallic saucers and the tri colour leds in the saucers on the classic as an upgrade ill bite
Quoted from tp:$4995
$5995
$6995
Figured I'd throw out some crazy numbers also.
At those prices ill take 10! 
Quoted from HighProtein:I hope distributors offer an extended warranty as an option.
I know some will including myself and Joe.
Quoted from chadderack:And whose pants are we talking about here, O-Din's or Rick's?
Must be o-din's. Not sure Rick owns any big boy pants.
Quoted from vid1900:It's been 80 years, and pinball playfields are still wearing out.....
Yeah, but it used to take 20 years, not 20 days ...
All I know is my original AFM with new decals, very nice playfield, bill ung mod, leds and color DMD is very safe. Heck, depending on how they price this thing it actually could make nice originals go up in value (not that it matters for me personally as I'm not selling any time soon)
Looking forward to hearing the next announcement.
Quoted from jfh:Must be o-din's. Not sure Rick owns any big boy pants.
32 waist here. How bout that other guy?
Quoted from o-din:32 waist here. How bout that other guy?
I'm going to guess he hasn't seen a 32 since he was 13.
Quoted from Mike_J:I'm going to guess he hasn't seen a 32 since he was 13.
If you're talking about women, he probably hasn't seen a 13 since he was 32. 
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