I assume they are not blind and have *some* quality control. But even if they didn't... the moment people started squawking about the inserts they said "we'll have a fix". This was early on... people waited for news as Churchill KEPT shipping these PF's. Then even though people groaned about the silly "fix" to hide the problem... they then KEPT shipping these PF's for months until they ran out of them or were shamed into stopping.

I was there from the start - you may not like it but it WAS "black and white". You want to muddy it up dragging in other companies and now you want to muddy up the timeline. I'd think you were a shareholder if they had them.

Like I've said repeatedly... they were good before this and good after this. I'd think my unbiased view would make you happy.

I'm perfectly happy with the hypocrite and apologist labels so I'm glad to let it go.

In fact I'm missing a shitty episode of "Bar Rescue" right now for this. Shame on you

This sounds like Stern, except it seems that Stern has kept it up for over a year at this point, and on worse issues as well. Where have you been on the recent AS, BM66, GB, SMVE, GOT, Met, etc. threads? No repeated warnings for their issues as well?

All the major manufacturers have made some nice pins, as well as having some issues within production at times. Look at the forest, not just a tree.

I'm missing a good movie right now... shame on you.

Sorry for harping. Get to that show or something better!

This has been asked in this thread and no would be buyers haven't answered: is there a street price on these games or are they being sold across the board at MSRP? PM me if you aren't comfortable answering in thread!

MSRP is all I could find at the show.

MSRP is all you'll find right now, while demand is high. I suspect that you won't find lower prices until distributors have some inventory, and have an incentive to sell below MSRP.

Hasslecastle, LE 's are almost sold out? Seems hard to believe. Or is it that you are almost sold out of the allotment you were given.

Big day, joined Pinside and put a deposit down on an LE. Thanks to all who posted in this thread. It helped me make the leap!

maybe not right this moment when hype is high, but they have every reason to be competitive and offer deals to bring in the non-hype customers.

I have to imagine with so many great options out their, cost is a big factor in any pinheads purchase.

How is the clearcoat finish on the this remake? Is it comparable to MMr or does it dimple like recent sterns?

Can you get a MMr under the advertised price? It was announced years ago and been in production for a while now.

I think that's up to CGC, they have "rules" on the price + shipping from what I've heard so you'll see no wiggle room from an "official" distributor unless they say so.

arent the leds on the mini saucer single controlled ?? It looks like that they lit all at the same time. I like the way they cycle on the billung mod, but maybe i couldnt see that from the short video

I contacted 2 distributors and got 2 different prices. Just sayin...

Distributors get a cut and some are willing to deal; even if that means selling for slightly less cut but selling more games. One was offering add-ons to sweeten the deal and of course there are shipping fees that are always negotiable.

a lower price?

The martians have landed and I couldn't resist their charm.....I'm all in on an LE in green!

call around

Thanks all for pics and videos. Just couldn't resist with the extra features.
I went in on a LE Black.

more curious than anything since CGC supposedly throws you to the back of line getting games if you don't follow their "rules".

If I buy, I'd buy local from game exchange and not have to pay shipping.

I absolutely agree.
Dont risk shipping if you dont have to, pick up and save the money and avoid the risk.

Could be with and without shipping?

plenty of ways to avoid the 'rules'. People just need to be smart enough to not share publiclly where to go and get those willing to work with customers in some 'trouble'

Just ordered my AFMr in black powdercoat this AM - stoked! They nailed the price point for the LE.. so many awesome features for the $$. Makes BM66 SLE look way overpriced IMO

You absolutely can. On MMr, you can change the fade speed of the inserts from Slow, Medium, Fast or Off. Medium looks just like incandescent. Off looks like LED conversions without OCD. Perhaps the one you played was on the OFF setting

I ordered my LE on Friday with SS trim. Will be getting the matching number to my MMR LE. Can't wait to get it!

Welcome to the Fracas (circus?) !
Congrats on the new game!

Yes, welcome to Pinside! Great choice on the new game!

For the AFMr LE quantites available, Some are saying 500 units others are stating 1000.

I think the correct number is 1000 (of assorted colors of course).

Good to know. It was more like medium or low. The fade was was so slow that the blinking effect was too subtle. So probably fast would work better.

Yeah but taxes are more then shipping.

It's also entirely possible they don't have the ability to do it. The new translites they do aren't printed the same way as the old ones, which is why they don't look quite as nice.

Taxes will be few hundred, shipping is certainly in line...plus the non shipping risk value and supporting a local pinball business of which there are very few in U.S.

With the pricing and feature list, I'd bet that the classic model will become the true limited edition. When you add a shaker and colour display to the cost of a classic your almost at the price of the SE, and the SE has better lights and sound, not to mention the larger display. Most of the sales will come from SE and doubt very many classics will be made.

I had a chat with Doug Skor from CGC about this, and he mentioned they are working on how to protect the SOL hole against chipping and the plan is to have a factory installed protector. He didn't have details whether it would be 'cliffy' or 'mantis' type protector, but they are aware of this so hopefully there'll be one once it starts shipping

Considering how bad the problem was with AFM and MB when they were made by WMS/BLY, the VUK protector would have been the first part of the game I would have built. Then I would have built the rest of the game around the protector.

AFM is one of my favorite games that I own. For a simple game it is just fun. Kind of like a rock ballad that becomes a classic across all generations.

I look what they did to the LE and I think it looks like a home run.

The topper looks awesome. The LEDs in the mini saucers, shaker motor, and large screen dmd are great add ons the originals didn't have. The shaker motor adds immersion, while the other mods just help make the machine look bad ass.

I'm in.

Black LE bought yesterday.

Rob

You got it home already?

Now how did you arrive at that? He said "bought" not "brought home".

*David Cross voice*

I’m going to go ahead and admit that Levi did not believe what Rob just said, it was what’s described as a 'joke.' He'll probably be telling other ones later in this thread

Plus, buying something usually involves exchanging goods for currency, so it isn't really bought until it is received.

steps.

The quotation marks around "joke" were well earned in this instance.

I really wish they offered lollipop rails for the LE. That means I have to match the green and order those separately.

I know what you mean. That means I have to remember to take my ring off before playing. The lollipop rails removes that worry.

won't that mean you are going to have to pay taxes? that's the main reason I don't buy local, well that and the main place to buy local here inflates the price a little bit. if the machine cost 7000 @ 8.1 tax rate, I pay $567. if shipping is only 250, it would mean I saved about 300. Cash money

maybe your tax rate is lower

Oh, so he pre-ordered one!

Not if you don't want your "Hi-Gloss LE Lollipop rails" scratched up! FWIW I've seen it happen - but better than the cabinet.