Holy Smokes...I just changed my flipper strength to -3 and it's like a whole new game! I can actually trap the ball and it's more like pinball and less like spinball. I got 5 Way Combo and Total Annihilation right off the bat...two modes I haven't hit in a month....the ramp shots are now so much easier and I feel like I have some control! What an eye opener.

Be more abusive of the machine to change the ball trajectory before it leaves the lock lane, or last ditch, as it rockets toward the right outlane.

i have one video mod left at the moment

I'm pretty much bang-on 6.5 degrees.

That is us too. I even have my wife Nudging!!

Yes.
War is Hell.
Return to battle soldier...

Hey guys; what are the street prices for NIB on the SE and LE versions? Is there a price difference between black or green trim? Thanks in advance.

Black or green is only available on the LE. No price difference.

LTG : )

It needs some dialing in out of the box in order to reach those higher scores. Being the masochist I am, I decided to leave it alone. I've maxed out at 58B on an original AFM. This one, I'm sitting at 9.3B in over 200 games.

This game does hate me. I'm convinced. I've had some stupid cheap drains with the ball returning on the left wireform. It'll come down, hit the sling rubber, and bounce to the left out lane. :::shrugs::: Lots of yelling and cursing commences

Same for 926. Unboxed it, mounted topper, ran rear levelers out about 3/4 of max with front ones all in, leveled, plugged it in. I haven't even adjusted the volume or been in to any menus.
Mine always behaves on the left side but hops the guide between the in and out lane on the right side. I think a blade like divider like my TAF is in order

Exact same set up and I feel the exact same way. I am not that good a player, but I feel like I have a lot of control now. I get lots of side drains, but feel I am really really getting better at “digging” the ball out down the middle. I do t know if that is the right term but I am sure you know what I mean. It is fat and fun...very satisfying to play.

I couldn’t agree more! CGC did an amazing job with this game. So much fun to play.

Just thinking out loud here. I have a few games on my radar, AFMr being one. Think it’s too similar to SMVE in a small lineup? And what’s the consensus of the SE version? Is the light show and missing extra saucers worth upgrading to LE? Not much of a topper guy even though it’s a bad ass topper.

You get double the warranty of the SE too. And mirror blades.

LTG : )

I have the LE. I ended up turning off the topper bounce action because it was just so loud. It does look awesome. If you are not into toppers, aside from the warranty or the colored trim, the SE is a great choice. You still get the nice display and honestly, the blades by TiltGraphics, etc look cooler than the mirrors IMHO.

I think I prefer the mirrors. It looks like a larger landscape that it really is and bounces more light into the game.

I bought the standard for the classic look. Hardware has year warrenty and beagle boards are cheap

I know this is heresy to some people but here's what I did:

1. Move outlane guides all the way down
2. Install 5 ball
3. Change the extra ball for destroying cities back to 2 (it goes to 3 when you install 5 ball)
4. Change the extra ball for SOL down to 4
5. Change the extra ball during Strobe Multiball down to 8 (I think that's the lowest)
6. Crank all the timers up to max (ball save, martian attack, etc...). Anything that times out, move it to max
7. Drill a hole in the pf and install a post between the flippers (ok, that was a joke)

This makes the game more fun for me as it allows me to get close to ruling the universe. I got to RTU the other night for the first time ever although I didn't get the 5 billion needed to RTU. Don't be embarrassed about doing this. It's your $8000 and you can do whatever you want with the game. Make it fun.

I'm getting better at this game and will start dialing all this back over time. Someday I hope to be back to 3 ball default settings and be able to light RTU.

My wife has been pestering me to set it to 5 ball but I dunno... Feels like sacrilege lol

Im not ready to do anything that extreme but I do like what your thinking and see how you got there

But I'll admit that I have started a lot of 4 player games just to get a rhythm going. It seems to help me get 1 or 2 good games out of the 4.

I dig the mirrors too....while the game has some elements that are Spidey-like, there are still other modes that make the game very different. It stands pretty strong on it's own, imho....

Quick question guys on my AFM I notice when I play and I hit the left sling it sometimes makes it kick like 2 or three times. It’s not every time I hit bit but it’s alit during a game. Annoying as shit. Any ideas how I can do a quick fix on this problem? Also have rattling on my glass. Tape? Thanks in advance

POWER OFF.

Adjust the slingshot leaf blade switches on the left sling so they are less sensitive. With the slingshot plastic off, look down at the blades. Front long one should just be touching the rubber ring. Not pushing it. Shorter rear one close enough so the slightest ball hit triggers it. Yet vibration doesn't give extra kicks.

A tweak or two and you should be fine.

LTG : )

Rattling on the glass, do you have a loose side rail? When you hear the rattle press the side rail in and see if it stops.

People have applied electrical tape wrapped along the edges.

Seems to work good there's a product called anti rattle tape which is essentially the same thing.

Also one could turn down the Shaker motor a little bit until it stops rattling the glass.

...good recommendations PDX_Pinball - thanks. Two days ago I logged 410 games (5 ball), set on default as described in my earlier posting. Still could not complete that 5th country, but achieve everything else including the four extra balls. Can't master the damn video mode though.
Last night, I moved the slingshot posts back towards the flippers, effectively reducing the left and right outlane entrances. Third game into this change I made Attack Mars mode w/ 8.5 billion score! Much more satisfying ball longevity, especially during annihilation and strobe multi-ball.
The game still drains, but at least I've got an improved chance to advance.
I've been invited to a pinball party later this month (Little Shop of Games) where dozens of machines will be available for free play. I hope to learn from some of these 'pros' on a specific sequence of play to achieve higher scores.

Beagle?

Black board in the picture.

LTG : )

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Hi
thats a fault in the plywood that they have attempted to fix ,seem from the photos that they have used a filler to cover up the air pocket in the ply(from when the ply was made ) exposed after the machine has routed out the ball trough, not much i think you can do about it> but if you want stop any more damage, i on all my machine use a strip of markalon think its 0.9mm thick, cut around the obstacles and gently use a heat gun to mould the product into the curvature of the trough
works well ...see Photo before heat gun

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Sometimes new rubber needs to be stretched a little. Sort of pull out on the rubber and rotate it around on the sling.

LTG beat me to it on that Mine was doing the exact same thing except it was the right sling. Had to adjust the sensitivity and its been fine ever since.

Also have buzzing glass. Fixed it about 90% with electrical tape. I think I saw a link somewhere to a more specialized product. I was thinking of maybe going with some invisiglass at some point so I might check out other options.

Is there any huge difference between the Le and the Se besides the topper and the powdercoat? I’m debating between the two

Topper
Mirrored blades
Warranty
Powder coating
LED in the Mini Saucers

Its actually worth the extra $1K if you can even find one

Ptownpin covered it.

You can read the differences at the CGC website :

http://www.chicago-gaming.com/afm.php

LTG : )

I’m in the same boat SE v LE...if I get one.

Topper: don’t care
Mirror blades: like them but doesn’t matter, can easily add later.
Warranty: I ‘think’ I’m ok with the SE warranty. Have no idea what the issues have been that warrant having an extended warranty though.
Powder coating: could care less. I actually like the classic throwback stainless
LED mini saucers: this is actually the only thing I care about honestly in the LE, so is THIS worth the $1k extra?

Not to me, I went with se and love it.

The LED mini saucer lightshow was the clincher for me. Logic of measuring value vs the price difference seems pointless. Get what you like an can afford.

Same with me. Lighted saucers sold me

The topper MAKES the game. It's not just for decoration and is interactive with the game.

Nope....if u don't care about trim color, mirror blades or topper its an easy decision

Even though I don’t care about the topper. I’m wondering if my kids will get a hoot out of it (5 year old). But is 5 minutes of his attention and laughter worth $1k lol. Usually is for us dads

I'm not sure you're really talking about a 1k difference. You could always get an LE and sell the board and topper. I'm not sure what that would sell for today, but I bet the topper alone would fetch a substantial amount.

Different strokes for different folks. That’s the great thing about having three models

I wanted mine to look just like my original, hence I bought a classic addition.

Can’t go wrong with any of them

You can’t go wrong with any of them. The Martian Green trim on the LE surprised me with how much I like it. Beautiful powder coating.

LE is epic

I'm pretty sure the price difference was $700 on these.

The mini saucer light show is an absolute must for me. That's the one single thing I couldn't live without on this game. They did an amazing job there with the 2 (red/green) colors and the way they pulse after the shields go down and the way they spin at the start of multiball.