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Attack From Mars Remake (AFMr) Owners Club

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#4001 6 years ago
Quoted from whthrs166:

well what about you?

I’m cool

#4002 6 years ago
Quoted from EricHadley:

You Colorado boys need to chill just bit

Yeah to cold right now outside.

#4003 6 years ago
Quoted from Onwallst:

Yeah to cold right now outside.

I should invite you guys over for beer and pinball and we can sob over my nude playfield too, then play the F out of it

#4004 6 years ago
Quoted from EricHadley:

I should invite you guys over for beer and pinball and we can sob over my nude playfield too, then play the F out of it

Sounds good!

#4005 6 years ago

Ok! Then you can see what I did to TAF. Is better than NIB

#4006 6 years ago
Quoted from EricHadley:

I should invite you guys over for beer and pinball and we can sob over my nude playfield too, then play the F out of it

Can you post a pic of the area by the flippers? I wonder what that ball with the chick on it looks like with nude instead of orange in it since it's a pretty large area.

#4007 6 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

Can you post a pic of the area by the flippers? I wonder what that ball with the chick on it looks like with nude instead of orange in it since it's a pretty large area.

Here’s mine:

I’ve never owned an original so tbh I didn’t notice the difference till it was pointed out in this thread. It’s amazing to play though! Kicked my butt so many times today then I got 4 blue lights and felt I was on my way to rtu. Then... drain

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#4008 6 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Here’s mine:
I’ve never owned an original so tbh I didn’t notice the difference till it was pointed out in this thread. It’s amazing to play though! Kicked my butt so many times today then I got 4 blue lights and felt I was on my way to rtu. Then... drain

You just got a lighter orange, within what I'd call normal spec. It's not a nude error playfield.

#4009 6 years ago

Agree. Doesn’t bother me too much. I wonder just how many nudes there are out there.

#4010 6 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Here’s mine:
I’ve never owned an original so tbh I didn’t notice the difference till it was pointed out in this thread. It’s amazing to play though! Kicked my butt so many times today then I got 4 blue lights and felt I was on my way to rtu. Then... drain

It is light but not a a full nude but close. Full nude matches the girl. Your playfeild is nice no planking and high gloss.

#4011 6 years ago
Quoted from Onwallst:

It is light but not a a full nude but close. Full nude matches the girl. Your playfeild is nice no planking and high gloss.

I actually have minor planking or ribbing or whatever but you can only see it at an angle and with certain lighting! Doesn’t bother me much as you can’t really see it while playing.

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#4012 6 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

I actually have minor planking or ribbing or whatever but you can only see it at an angle and with certain lighting! Doesn’t bother me much as you can’t really see it while playing.

Yeah but it is starting. Is your climate dry?

#4013 6 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Here’s mine:
I’ve never owned an original so tbh I didn’t notice the difference till it was pointed out in this thread. It’s amazing to play though! Kicked my butt so many times today then I got 4 blue lights and felt I was on my way to rtu. Then... drain

Man, those colors are way off...look at the roof. I've attached a photo from my HEP AFM...the PF was produced by Mirco and touched up & clear coated by HEP. Here is a photo from the archives of an original PF that seems consistent with mine (http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=3781&picno=9820).

snaroff

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#4014 6 years ago
Quoted from snaroff:

Man, those colors are way off...look at the roof. I've attached a photo from my HEP AFM...the PF was produced my Mirco and touched up & clear coated by HEP. Here is a photo from the archives of an original PF that seems consistent with mine (http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=3781&picno=9820).
snaroff

Wow, that roof blue is WAY off in the CGC ones compared to original/HEP.

#4015 6 years ago

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#4016 6 years ago

I’d call mine peachy nude

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#4017 6 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

Wow, that roof blue is WAY off in the CGC ones compared to original/HEP.

But it's all hand mixed silk screen paint. I would expect matching colors precisely is tough, but I don't know. Also, it's all hand-made so each one will end up being unique with faults and all, so CGC would have a hard time putting a 'mass produced' type warranty on it. It's just a guess but so much of this including the sanding/prep is a judgment call so it is hard to draw the line as to what you consider a fault. Either they are mass-produced in which case no flaws, or hand-made which means flaws, but I don't know, just a guess at this.

#4018 6 years ago

Remake vs orginal

Orginal the true orange.
Notice buildings different in remake as is grey.

Also please note original has no deep dimples. (Please don’t start the dimple debate as it just proves the wood is softer today as documented by Kruzman and HSA)
FYI the original has no sunlight fade as orginal cabinet in perfect color.

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#4019 6 years ago
Quoted from Onwallst:

Orginal vs Remake

Wow thats way different

#4020 6 years ago
Quoted from bitpatrol:

But it's all hand mixed silk screen paint. I would expect matching colors precisely is tough, but I don't know. Also, it's all hand-made so each one will end up being unique with faults and all, so CGC would have a hard time putting a 'mass produced' type warranty on it. It's just a guess but so much of this including the sanding/prep is a judgment call so it is hard to draw the line as to what you consider a fault. Either they are mass-produced in which case no flaws, or hand-made which means flaws, but I don't know, just a guess at this.

Bull. There's a thing called PMS color. Printers use it all the time to get EXACT colors EVERY TIME they run the same job. We're not in the 1950s. There's color matching tech even outside PMS that yields results that are consistent.

#4021 6 years ago
Quoted from bitpatrol:

But it's all hand mixed silk screen paint. I would expect matching colors precisely is tough, but I don't know. Also, it's all hand-made so each one will end up being unique with faults and all, so CGC would have a hard time putting a 'mass produced' type warranty on it. It's just a guess but so much of this including the sanding/prep is a judgment call so it is hard to draw the line as to what you consider a fault. Either they are mass-produced in which case no flaws, or hand-made which means flaws, but I don't know, just a guess at this.

Yes but how did they originally match colors on the Bally games as there was little difference. Difference between years or manufactures of the playfeild for games like CFTBL that three different manufactures made but was still the correct color. I doubt they are mixing all 13 colors daily. They are buying these and ran out of orange. What about the other manufactures how are they matching the colors? On monster bash the colors are more important than afm. You have a second level of quality control on the other games such as stern or JJP. They inspected or reject the playfeild prior to installation. The rejects go back to the playfeild manufacture. With CGC they accept all which they feel are fine so the errors go into the games without the second layer of quality control.

I am still waiting to see a perfect CGC purchase experience. Everyone who said theirs were perfect have shown issues. A perfect game is zero issues even minor. On mmr there were plenty of perfect games. Seems quality control is down. This is why there aren’t only a handful of people with these issues there are many more. People just don’t know it until this thread.

#4022 6 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

Bull. There's a thing called PMS color. Printers use it all the time to get EXACT colors EVERY TIME they run the same job. We're not in the 1950s. There's color matching tech even outside PMS that yields results that are consistent.

Exactly. The color differences aren't minor/subtle. It's almost like some paint pigment was "running low" while some of the PF's shown above were being produced.

snaroff

#4023 6 years ago
Quoted from Nexyss:

I think the only issues that have not been resolved are the playfield quality issues. Some of the playfields were screened with a "nude" color where it should be orange (I think mine looks more yellow than orange there, but I will have to look more closely when i get home tonight). There was also a pic of a terrible looking shooter lane (discolored, filled with putty before clearcoat) that was reported as not covered under warranty.
I think that is it as far as unresolved issues. The clearcoat can chip around the holes, which can be stopped by adding Cliffy's to those holes.

I just looked at my game again after seeing other pics in the thread, and my orange is definitely orange. Sorry for the glass on pics. There is a crazy kitten here, and I didn’t want to introduce her to the playfield.

The second pic was supposed to show the mothership hole, but I failed. I can’t see any chipping. The third pic shows a really nice shooter lane.

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#4024 6 years ago

Ribbing doesn’t seem to be changing. I’m in a dry climate for sure but it’s in a conditioned room. Plays perfectly and, like I said, I never owned an original so colors don’t look bad to me at all. Not likely to sell it, so I’m not worried. But I respect others opinions on the matter.

#4025 6 years ago
Quoted from Nexyss:

I just looked at my game again after seeing other pics in the thread, and my orange is definitely orange. Sorry for the glass on pics. There is a crazy kitten here, and I didn’t want to introduce her to the playfield.
The second pic was supposed to show the mothership hole, but I failed. I can’t see any chipping. The third pic shows a really nice shooter lane.

Yours looks really nice. Congratulations. I wish mine looked like that. Great shooter lane. Did you have any minor issues or plug n play right out of box with no issues after?

#4026 6 years ago
Quoted from Onwallst:

Glad to hear. Interesting no one is posting that they have had zero issues. I have more new in the box games with zero adjustments and problems than I have had games with issues. Playing perfect right out of the box is high quality control.

Mine played perfect right out of the box.No adjustments,no airballs,playfield and colors looks great,only needed to get a new set of slingshot plastics.LE 214.

#4027 6 years ago

Just want to say that so far, even though I had to "open er up" and tweak a few (I'd call minor) things. The folks I dealt with at Game Room Guys and in forums like this have been a great help. The community in general seems very open an inviting.

Sad to see some having more serious issues. For me AFM LE Remake has been a dream come true.

GRG even called me up today unprompted to ask if I was happy with the table and to ask if my issues were resolved to my satisfaction!

#4028 6 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

I think it's technically just "ribbed" from the drum sanding operation.

From Pinball news...
"If there are any imperfections, the playfield is sanded to level everything before it move on to have artwork screen printed on it."

I don't think this is a "drum sander", I could be wrong, there are drums in the picture

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#4029 6 years ago

LE #486 is in the house being enjoyed feverishly on a daily basis for the next cpl wks before I place it at my main location, My Parents Basement, in Atl. Colors and shooter lane look great to me but I am not a collector and have near zero interest in such things. The LE was easily worth the extra money, playing this game is an experience.

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#4030 6 years ago

Looks nice

#4031 6 years ago
Quoted from ATLpb:

LE #486 is in the house being enjoyed feverishly on a daily basis for the next cpl wks before I place it at my main location, My Parents Basement, in Atl. Colors and shooter lane look great to me but I am not a collector and have near zero interest in such things. The LE was easily worth the extra money, playing this game is an experience.

Congrats.

It's really too bad that all of the buyers don't get one like this.

#4032 6 years ago

Dude, that chromed out Spidey is fricken sick too!

#4033 6 years ago

Is that yellow strip going through the building supposed to be orange? I have now seen orange, nude, and yellow in that area.

#4034 6 years ago
Quoted from Higloss67:

Is that yellow strip going through the building supposed to be orange? I have now seen orange, nude, and yellow in that area.

Yellow from the ship...the colors are off elsewhere when you start comparing. Below are from an original.

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#4035 6 years ago
Quoted from Onwallst:

Yellow from the ship...the colors are off everywhere when you start comparing. Below are from an original.

Though I agree that nude laser blasts are odd looking and make little sense in the world as we know, the "colors are off everywhere" is only true if your comparing to the original. However the "colors are off" in general terms is subjective, as I would argue that the trees look more green in the remake which looks better IMO. To me, I don't care if it deviates from the original (that's why I picked up the LE and not a classic model), as long as it looks better and of course that is all a matter of opinion.

#4036 6 years ago

I don't think the colors vary widely overall when compared to an original. The nude color substitution for THE orange is the only real issue. CGC should make a special apron with exclusive nude model graphics or something to that effect. Maybe some nude people running while a saucer beams up a stream of their clothes with someone yelling "THEY STOLE OUR CLOTHES" to send out to customers with the nude color issues. Make it special edition if they're not gonna substitute a normal colored playfield.

#4037 6 years ago

I've never looked at one of my play fields as often as I do this one. Every time a new picture is shown, I go down and check it against mine.

#4038 6 years ago

Colors off, AFMr is unplayable.

#4039 6 years ago

I’ve been very pleased with my AFMr LE purchase, #687. I probably have a minor shooter ramp issue with the ball not making it around the orbit on the super skill shot occasionally, but I’ve been too lazy to unscrew the metal ramp and make the bend adjustment fix since I’ve been obsessed with playing Zelda on my Nintendo Switch (which is awesome by the way!). I’ve purchased 4 nib machines and AFMr in my experience has been at the top of the list so far in regards to quality, although the others were good too. It’s unfortunate that some people are having problems but most of these appear to be relatively cosmetic in nature now that the PIC 2.0 has been released. My sincere advice, which I need to remind myself to heed at times, is to try and not let that kill your enjoyment of this fun hobby. If you search hard enough you can find flaws with almost everything to one degree or another, and that is certainly true of pinball machines.

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#4040 6 years ago

To me, the colors being 'off' is not that big of a deal, but I can understand people not liking it if it's too drastic, but I have not really seen anything yet... all those pictures look good to me, and it's a remake not a replica. I'm ok with the colors being off a bit since it's hand-made, plus, some of the original playfield examples may have been re-done or maybe there was a bit of variation in color on the originals too?

#4041 6 years ago
Quoted from snaroff:

What does that mean, exactly? That your made a 100k-ish charge to your credit card? Then returned the car?
snaroff

I bought a car with my credit card, it didn’t work, the seller refused to tackle it in a manner acceptable to me and breached the conditions of sale, I did a chargeback, they collected the car and then refunded me in full.

Neil

#4042 6 years ago

Don’t forget different digital cameras and lights will make many things look different colours.

#4043 6 years ago
Quoted from markp99:

Colors off, AFMr is unplayable.

That’s taking it too far.

#4044 6 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

I don't think the colors vary widely overall when compared to an original. The nude color substitution for THE orange is the only real issue. CGC should make a special apron with exclusive nude model graphics or something to that effect. Maybe some nude people running while a saucer beams up a stream of their clothes with someone yelling "THEY STOLE OUR CLOTHES" to send out to customers with the nude color issues. Make it special edition if they're not gonna substitute a normal colored playfield.

Best idea yet!!!

#4045 6 years ago
Quoted from bigdaddy07:

Though I agree that nude laser blasts are odd looking and make little sense in the world as we know, the "colors are off everywhere" is only true if your comparing to the original. However the "colors are off" in general terms is subjective, as I would argue that the trees look more green in the remake which looks better IMO. To me, I don't care if it deviates from the original (that's why I picked up the LE and not a classic model), as long as it looks better and of course that is all a matter of opinion.

True. Everywhere was a stretch. Else where better statement. Thanks for the catch. What is the high score for today?

#4046 6 years ago

Just saw a Denver CL ad for an original AFM and the colors in question look yellow.

denver.craigslist.org link

#4047 6 years ago
Quoted from Higloss67:

Just saw a Denver CL ad for an original AFM and the colors in question look yellow.
denver.craigslist.org link

Yeah that is Gilberts and very sun faded. Lots of luck as needs a lot of work.

#4048 6 years ago
Quoted from Higloss67:

Just saw a Denver CL ad for an original AFM and the colors in question look yellow.
denver.craigslist.org link

6500 lmao.... i paid that for my low play unfaded very modded afm years ago before the remake.

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#4049 6 years ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

6500 lmao.... i paid that for my low play unfaded very modded afm.

$6,500 is a lot of money for a paperweight.

#4050 6 years ago
Quoted from Higloss67:

Just saw a Denver CL ad for an original AFM and the colors in question look yellow.
denver.craigslist.org link

$6500??

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