The solid ones I’ve completed but it’s causing the ones beside to glow/light up.

Is it really ghosting or just the LED a side of the unlit one. They are all surface mount so Im sure its just the light extending from the other insert.

Thanks for posting this.

Maybe a way to test this is to go to lamp test and light each one of those. If the condition exist under the test, then it is as you say just light deflection from the other LEDs not ghosting. Maybe then he should try a lower insert light setting.

Dimples are completely normal. All playfields have dimples. If there are enough they start to merge together so the playfield actually looks smooth.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/playfield-dimple-reality-check

Here is a photo of an original AFM showing a sea of dimples. Again, perfectly normal.

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Best solution to avoid dimpling is to remove the balls, and only stare at the game from this point on.
Problem solved!

Or play the crap out of it until they all blend together.

So I played around with mine and dropped the insert LED setting to Min. It made a difference on the "Light Bleed Over" .

How exactly do you adjust the flippers? I’m new to the pinball game and want to get my machine running way it should. Can you take me thru the steps? Don’t know what I’m doing. Thanks in advance

You mean a mechanical adjustment right? Why do want to adjust them?

Agreed! What I am observing, is that the dimpling and the scratches (vertical lines) seem to be more visible due to the High Gloss Clear Coat and the LED lighting. I do believe the dimples will even out over time so I am not worried. I just think that what people are seeing is more visible now with the way the PFs
are clear coated. I have the same dimples vertical lines in my MM they are just not as visible. I can see these issues as being deal breakers for some high profile future buyers. Not a big issue for me.

It’s also a color thing. The dark blue on my SW makes them stand out. The colors on AFM are different and show it less. And they have the exact same dimples.

So yeah this just happened
My left wire ramp broke looks like it snapped off on the weld. Don’t know how that happened. Probably the way the ball flies around so damn fast. (Turned down coil to -5) Now my ball gets stuck when I shoot the lane. Opened up a ticket. Barely week old machine. Just my luck

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Man that stinks! Defective wire form.

Anyway for a quick fix? Has this ever happened to one of your pins?

I've got PDI glass and you notice it worse!

Causing the ball to get stuck in ramp. Unless it goes in the ramp 100 miles hr it’s getting stuck messing up my game

CGC should sort you out quickly. Sorry it happened.

Yeah an overnight fix! Get some of that 3m clear epoxy. Mix it up and put a small glob on that weld. That should hold you til you get your new wireform.

Thanks. Yeah it sucks. Feels like everyday it something else with this machine. But I still love it. Opened a ticket with CGC. Hopefully they can resolve this.

Sorry you are going through this...oddly, my AFMRLE was (is) completely solid right out of the box, and I've had it for months (first release group). Had one LED go out on a mini saucer, and they sent me a replacement within a week.

Solid machine....hope your's gets corrected in short order....

It seems like something happened over at CGC, and quality control went into the toilet with these recent builds. There is no way my machine should have left the line not being able to launch a ball smoothly. When I first got it, I was lucky enough to even get it into the pop bumpers, nevermind all the way around the orbit for a super skill shot.

Yeah it sux but to be honest I had two of my three original AFMs do this also. Its not a CGC thing.

I guess when you remake a game you also remake some problems.

Then it should have never come off the line back then either. We shouldn't accept piss-poor quality control, because someone else did the same thing. If you see there's a problem when doing the final check of the game, then fix it before you send it out. I guarantee you, they saw this issue with my game, because it's really bad.

Curious...were your originals natural or restored? Any intimation that originals suffer from the same quality control problems is just off target. Hopefully you are talking about a very narrow CQ issue.

I've been playing my HEP AFM all week and can't believe how much better it plays than the AFMr I owned. Ball zips around the PF with amazing strength with 0 airballs or balls falling off wireforms. 7 years since HEP restored it...thousands of plays...no PF damage with minimal protection, no wireform breakage, feels much more solid in general. Most importantly, it *plays* much better...dramatic difference in flipper feel. The AFMr flippers felt awful to me...nothing like B/W flippers.

I don't begrudge remake advocates, but any notion that remakes are inherently better than originals because they are "newer" with modern tech haven't played a finely-tuned original.

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Two routes and one HUO off the original owner. The HUO and one of the routed ones needed tweaking in

These are remakes so they are not going to reengineer parts. Same BW parts we are all use to

I don’t think you can or should compare a factory game to one restored and dialed in by one of the greatest restoration people in the hobby. It’s not a comment on CGC or their quality, far from it. I just don’t think that you can say that they should be the same.

We had 1 or 2 cancellations in our final allotment of LEs getting done in the next couple weeks... So I have a few NIB AFMR LEs up for grabs if anyone wants them...

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This is an opinion. I have several "Finely Tuned" originals that I have owned for over 12 years. I don't agree. My AFMr LE will play just as good and it has improved cabinet and lighting just to name a few. There have been several people that have both the AFM original and the remake and say they cannot tell the difference between the game play. All my games play uniquely different so you can only compare them to each other so much...

I am really enjoying my AFMr LE. I did have the common issues to get worked out, and for the most part they have been fixed. That said, when I do play finely tuned original Bally games that are great condition, the flippers often feel better. Easier to control and trap the ball. What is your opinion on the flipper feel of your AFMr compared to your originals? How do you feel your playfield is holding up on the AFMr compared to originals?

My AFMr flippers feel like the original I owned. The only issue is my orbit loop sometimes bounces back from launch but I haven’t adjusted it completely yet. My guess is there is simply variability between machines in general. For example, my MMR plays better than the three MMs I’ve owned, including a high end restoration.

Improved cabinet....that's first i heard that? I much perfer the silkscreened cab over the decals tho. Also lighting can be changed to leds on the original so not much difference there and i even can customize the original lighting even more so.

I think he’s referring to the plywood bottom on the remake vs MDF on the original. The remake also uses melamine covered plywood.

“The game's cabinetry has been greatly improved. Both the cabinet and backbox are manufactured with melamine clad plywood. Melamine is 10 times more scratch resistant than traditional lacquer finishes. The original fiberboard cabinet bottom has been replaced with a ½" plywood bottom - significantly improving the strength of the cabinet and providing added protection for the cashbox.”

http://www.chicago-gaming.com/afm.php

I'm not saying they should be the same. What I'm saying is if someone is in the market, they shouldn't assume newer is always better. That's all. Hopefully, that's not a controversial statement!

There are MANY talented restorers. HEP might be one of the best known, but there are a significant number of restored AFM's that rock.

I love what CGC is trying to do with AFMr (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/afmr-an-le-that-feels-like-an-le), however they need to step up their attention to detail and QA. ANY company that decides to remake a classic game is going to be compared with the original!

snaroff

Compared to the originals I've played, it is great. I just played one in Banning at the Museum of Pinball. I bet a HEP restored AFMr would play awesome too.

You are so controversial

Every game is different; and you get the AFM that you can and you enjoy it.

My trapping on the AFMr improved by just changing the flipper rubbers to Titan Comp Silicone. So a machines trapping ability changes with what parts are installed and a player's ability. My flippers on AFMr do feel different from my MM and SS. My SS flippers feel very different than all of the Williams games. They have a more gentle feel. (so to speak) My CC flippers feel more like the AFMr. (I really don't know why)

Hahahahahaha first thing that popped into my head. Oy vey.

I have been using the Titans as well and that was a big improvement over the stock rubbers. I also raised the flippers a little bit a couple of hours ago. That made a huge difference in being able to trap easier.

Yeah the Titans minimize the ball bounce on a raised flipper giving much improved control over original rubber(black) and even Super Bands.

I want everyone to know that I got the PIC 2.0 and the game is playing great now. What a blast - I love it.

Are distributors getting these PIC 2.0 or what?
Haven’t heard yet, Anyone get a timeframe?

You are supposed to contact the distributor that sold the AfM to get the PIC2.

Awesome! Any prior issues?

I was told last Friday that international kits had been sent to distributors and that domestics kits were being built and shipped to distributors this week. So everyone should be getting these soon.

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