Few mor pics after redoing all the leds and waxing everything 20160907_003756 (resized).jpg20160907_003454 (resized).jpg

New goal is to get RTU in order of the objective inserts. Was close today but hit the 5 way combo before destroying Mars.

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Hey guys, anyone have both the Pinbits Blackout mod AND the Bill Ung saucer mod? How did you introduce both of these to your AFM? Anyone have a picture of these two mods in your AFM and how they are introduced to the factory wiring?

If you also use Bills expansion kit, you don't use the blackout from pinbits, the expansion kit does the blackout.

Where exactly is the scoop supposed to kick the ball to on the left flipper?

The 3 I have owned all hit mid to top 1/3 of the flipper. Should return in a manner it's easy enough to control the ball

If that is the case, do you still swap J105 and J106 (like the Pinbits mod), or do you keep all connectors in their original locations?

Can anyone comment on the durability of laminated playfield decals from planetary pinball? Was told they would wear out in less than a year with home use without clearcoating over them. Thoughts?

If you get a year out of them, you got your money's worth.

They are just stickers.

Must say the goz mod is simple but a great upgrade and wld highly recommend it

Hey all. Does much happen in this club? Just joined and my first B/W. Very psyched. Thought it would be a bit more active, being such a huge name, but maybe everyone is busy playing rather than making internet noise about it. Played to death back in the day, but thought it would be cool to finally add to the basement.

Strangely it is very quiet. I also thought there would be a bit more happening in this club. I guess many of the AFM are restored in very good condition with little going wrong.

Not much to post bc its one the best pins ever and theres nothing else to really be said. Also many people dont own it bc its a pretty elite club compared to say bsd or getaway that have a ton of activity bc of the price . Its my personal favorite pin bc of the rule set, best flow , funny as hell, great bash toy and the strobe mb in complete darkness is such fun....
The mb, cc club's are the same way it seems.

I'm in the club! This was Gabe's from Pintastic. Some of you might have played it over the summer.
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His loss your gain.... probably the best overall pin made imo. You loving it? Make sure to open up the outlanes and put it at 7.0 degrees.... makes it much more enjoyable in home use. Also make sure all the green targets have foam on them as it really helps with airballs

I am loving it. The left control gate needs some lovin' It's not lifting 100%. The saucer has an LED out that prob needs some solder but other then that it's great! Got to total annihilation and put up 8 Bil in the first day. It will take me awhile to rule the universe

BTW - I love the pingraffix on the apron - didn't think I would like it as much as I do in person. It's bright and attractive.

I will be asking for advice on re-decaling it in the spring - so TIA

I love the way mine plays bc i have yet to beat mars or rule the universe after 500-600 games but have come close.... total annihilation is great as is the strobe mb in complete darkness. I commented on your fb post also.... u sld definitely go ahead and get the gozmod for mothership since u have a led out and definitely get the pinbits blackout mod for afm and all wpc95 pins for that matter

I have some saucer LEDs if you need one.

Also get all the cliffys if u dont have them ...i see u have front scoop one but does it have back one ? Also recommend the motorized target bank and mothership/drop target one?

It's a keeper so I will be looking into those mods soon. Need to sell my STLE... If anyone is interested.
Thank you for your kind words on FB too!

Thanks. It lights when wiggled so I think it just needs a little solder. But I might take you up on that if it's worse than I think.

The left gate confuses me cause I already adjusted it and it was working so I will investigate tomorrow.

What a great game! Love the original promo video too!

Also the stroke of luck cliffy is lifting. Need to look at that.
Cliff now has carbon fiber for flat protectors. I strongly recommend them. My carbon fiber WOZ thrown room hasn't lifted a millimeter in 3 years.

Its probably lifted bc whoever put it on more than likely was lazy and didn't repair the missing wood underneath it.... and over time the cliffy will deform bc of the hollow space underneath it. It sld be fixed right or you can use a mantis and cliffy combined like i do on high wear scoops like afm, mb, cftbl and some others but it still sld be repaired correctly.

So I'll answer my own question for posterity's sake: you DO flip the connectors. If you don't, the Pinbits black-out mod will NOT work as it should.

Its funny hearing the talk about the price of the new afmr and what it sld be. People saying u can get a original one for 7k or less is somewhat true but for a nice one without fade and color dmd and other upgrades it will be near 8k . So I really don't think a AFMr will be lower than 7500-8k and that will probably have upgraded color , shaker, powdercoated and probably some other upgrades . So for me a new afmr for around 8k wld be a good deal imo for probably the best overall pin ever made

The way NIB prices are going I wouldn't be surprised if it was $12,500 or something crazy like that.

The longer people wait to buy one, the higher the price will get.

I am so happy to own my grail game.

Man, a lot of AFMs coming home after Expo. Good to see .

You did great on that purchase.... i was considering it but hate shipping such a beautiful pin. Its seriously one the best pins ever made and is more fun than tz and mm ....i do love monster bash tho

Definitely buy all the cliffys they make for it and also the pinbits blackout mod is a must for afm bc of the strobe mb feature....

Yep been waiting for them to be in stock forever also.....

Anybody having experience using a playfield protector on AFM?
I have this very Nice restored original
Pf, wich is going to be installed in my pin.
I want this pf stay the way it is now..
So I am thinking of build up the pf using a pf protector...
Only thing is.... would it stil play the same...
I have heard Some good And bad things About these protectors..
But it depence on what title its used on
Or peoples different opinions..

I am in serious doubt And Can use Some advice

Took that one off also....it seems that it isn't useful anyway...the ball is only falling into that hole and mine had no wear on that edge to begin with.

Just favorited this thread, so this is my first look--apologies if this long-ago-post was solved earlier, but this was the case in the game I picked up (difficult to get center ramp shots to make it over the rise). Inspection of the metal guide/ramp interface revealed that the plastic ramp wall was installed in front of the metal guide, so the ball would scream around the guide and strike the ramp wall, dampening the shot big time. A simple realignment of the ramp (so the rear wall was outside of the guide) did the trick.

I wouldn't put a cliffy on the SOL if it is in really nice shape - I would go for the Mantis protector.

https://mantispinball.com/product-category/attack-from-mars/

I plan on buying a stern shaker (looks like they're about $120) and modifying it to work with my AFM. Might not get around to it until the new year, though. If/when I do it I'll be sure to let everyone know how to do it. If anyone knows of a better/cheaper shaker to start with, please let me know.

Cointakers has both the ones they carry on sale... i love the red tremors bc they shake alot....be awesome if you cld find a way to get them to work with bally /williams pins....

Dude, I would say you truly *earned* the right to be in the club!

Has anybody on here ever made it to RTU with no extra balls, open outlanes, and tight tilt? I have never been able to do it. With extra balls turned on I found it too easy and my best score was around 42B. But with EB's off I've never made it to RTU and my best score is around 18B.

I set mine up with open outlanes, no EBs, medium tilt, and harder software settings (no extra hits on 3-bank for near misses, 6 shots to start the first MB). It took me quite a lot of attempts, but I was able to RTU. I'm sure a tighter tilt would have made it even harder or maybe impossible for me.

Nope ive never made it to the end eaither Mine is set up on hard, 7 degrees, open outlanes and very hard to get extra ball. You almost need to set b/w pins this way or it be to easy to bet them and then they wld get boring quickly.....

I had lots of issues with the back cliffy it created a ball hang up and you would have to shake the game and take a tilt warning alot of the time to get it over the protector, so i just removed it in the end the front one is where it takes all the wear anyway, not the back.

Ditto. Same scenario and the back lip has no damage anyway.

The backside can get beat up also.... not as bad as front but damaged none the less.afmSOLbefore (resized).jpg

That extra special screw stuck in at an angle must have an interesting story associated with it.

Not my pin lol.... found it online..