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Attack from Mars | 3D Flipper Toppers

By Mr_Tantrum

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago


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Attack from Mars | 3D Flipper Toppers

Added: April 12th, 2020 Re-listed: 13 times (October 26th, 2021)
Condition: New

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$ 20 (Firm)

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Attack!

I'm offering a set of my custom designed 3D printed AFM (all versions) flipper topers. The toppers are printed in high resolution with top quality filaments and come with adhesive on them ready to install.

All 4 colors can be custom selected by purchaser. As shown, the main layer is galaxy black (flat black with silver speckles), yellow, apple green, and red.

The apple green color is UV reactive so it really lights up when you have a UV trough light installed as pictured. I also have a UV reactive orange that could be implemented (see pics).

$20 includes US shipping. Please PM me if interested in purchasing.


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#2 1 year ago

I believe someone else is already making these, has been for several years..

#3 1 year ago

There are actually multiple flipper topper versions for AFM (and other games that I make 3D printed toppers for: Getaway, DE Jurassic Park, The Shadow, Tommy, etc.) The ones for AFM that are similar to this design are made of a completely different material, are not UV reactive, and you cannot customize the coloring.

I'm offering variety and buyer color selection for those who are interested in something unique, albeit similar, from what is already being offered.

I designed these for myself, and am offering them to others who might happen to like them. The good news is, nobody has to buy them who doesn't want to, and anyone who is looking for AFM flipper toppers is welcome to purchase any of the varieties available.

#4 1 year ago

Nope, there’s very little difference at all, you’re copying his design in using the green 3D spaceship, the black and yellow straight lines. It’s a total knockoff, seriously. Very poor form.

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#6 1 year ago
Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

Nope, there’s very little difference at all, you’re copying his design in using the green 3D spaceship, the black and yellow straight lines. It’s a total knockoff, seriously. Very poor form.

Thats why its a free market . You forgot to mention that they are half the price also.

Nice job.

#7 1 year ago

That link is interesting. I noticed in just the first three posts by the OP there from a year ago (not several years) were near replicas of at least two of the designs (TZ and MB) that Tilt Graphics was already selling, yet you called the PinBoss toppers “great” when you posted in that thread. While I’m always open to constructive criticism, I typically just shrug things off when the one offering it demonstrates a lack of consistency.

Regardless, thanks again for your concern and I wish you nothing but the best, and continual enjoyment in the hobby.

#8 1 year ago

Mr_Tantrum

Hey there. Thanks for checking out my product! Before my products, nobody made any 3D flipper caps, only laser cut ones. Mine are absolutely not "near replicas" of anything and there was nothing similar before I made what I made. Mine are hand cast with quality resin, hand painted, and original designs.

I take no offense by you making nearly the same product as mine but with cheaper materials! As hoby1 said, it is a free market. I figured my products would be copied, and you're not the first to do so.

Everybody take care, and I wish you and yours the best throughout this current pandemic! Pinball is the perfect thing to pass the time with

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#9 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballCaps:

mr_tantrum
Hey there. Thanks for checking out my product! Before my products, nobody made any 3D flipper caps, only laser cut ones. Mine are absolutely not "near replicas" of anything and there was nothing similar before I made what I made. Mine are hand cast with quality resin, hand painted, and original designs.
I take no offense by you making nearly the same product as mine but with cheaper materials! As hoby1 said, it is a free market. I figured my products would be copied, and you're not the first to do so.
Everybody take care, and I wish you and yours the best throughout this current pandemic! Pinball is the perfect thing to pass the time with

While I appreciate your justification, the graphical designs are nearly identical of those that pre-existed yours. Using the same logic you shouldn't have any issue with my version since they are are 3D printed using FDM technology (a completely different process than what you are doing), not to mention they are color customizable by the buyer.

Different process, different materials, different quality/resolution, and different price point. I don't care how many I sell as I create them made to order, and outside of this post and posting in the games owner's forums like I do with many of my mods, I don't advertise or promote them. I'm sure those who like and appreciate your product won't hesitate purchasing them just because I have a similar design, and I wish you nothing but success.

#10 1 year ago
Quoted from hoby1:

Thats why its a free market . You forgot to mention that they are half the price also.
Nice job.

Sorry I missed the part where price differences came into play when looking at copying someone’s designs.

Nice job.

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#11 1 year ago
Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

Sorry I missed the part where price differences came into play when looking at copying someone’s designs.
Nice job.

I'll assume you made the same point regarding his designs that closely resemble pre-existing toppers? Again, thanks for the consistency in your criticism.

#12 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

I'll assume you made the same point regarding his designs that closely resemble pre-existing toppers? Again, thanks for the consistency in your criticism.

They’re close enough dude, seriously. Sounds like you’re ok with it, knock yourself out.

#13 1 year ago
Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

They’re close enough dude, seriously. Sounds like you’re ok with it, knock yourself out.

They are close, and I even acknowledged that which negates any inconsistency ad hominem fallacy on my part. My point is why are you so vehemently criticizing my design when you've not done the same to their designs that replicate other pre-existing toppers? As I've pointed out, quite the contrary since you praised them when they were initially posted. What's good for one should be good for the other.

BTW, you are correct in that I'm 100% okay with it along with those that have already purchased them. Therefore, we can continue the open sparring, or we can each get on with life and more important things. I'll leave the ball in your court, but I'm always happy to return serve.

#14 1 year ago

Pm sent. I like them and kudos to you for actually updating a design and/or marketing it.

#15 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

They are close, and I even acknowledged that which negates any inconsistency ad hominem fallacy on my part. My point is why are you so vehemently criticizing my design when you've not done the same to their designs that replicate other pre-existing toppers? As I've pointed out, quite the contrary since you praised them when they were initially posted. What's good for one should be good for the other.
BTW, you are correct in that I'm 100% okay with it along with those that have already purchased them. Therefore, we can continue the open sparring, or we can each get on with life and more important things. I'll leave the ball in your court, but I'm always happy to return serve.

Have you been paying attention to some of the background on the WoZ similar designs? That discussion makes this look tame. Point is that time after time so many in this hobby take the crusader flag and run out there and call BS on anything similar to another’s product. I’m surprised no one else hasn’t commented here. If it had to do with a witch or a monkey people would be all over it.

#16 1 year ago
Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

Have you been paying attention to some of the background on the WoZ similar designs? That discussion makes this look tame.

I don't own a WoZ so hadn't noticed it, but now you've got me interested . . . thanks for the recommended reading.

Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

Point is that time after time so many in this hobby take the crusader flag and run out there and call BS on anything similar to another’s product.

I'm confused, are you saying you are the crusader or that I am?

#17 1 year ago

Got mine. Love them. Thanks!

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#18 1 year ago

if you are not capable of original thought this is what happens. I personally have the games Daniel made these mods for. They were not copies of something someone else had done. Was it a great idea? Obviously yes the 3-D bat toppers have become more common in the pinball community. My only point is please don't just copy something. Be creative enough to make something original and stand on your own.

#19 1 year ago

I also wanted to add that I have purchased mods from you as well. I did a very nice DE JP. Your T-Rex teeth took some modification to install but look great in the game.

#20 1 year ago
Quoted from 6T9Judge:

if you are not capable of original thought this is what happens. I personally have the games Daniel made these mods for. They were not copies of something someone else had done. Was it a great idea? Obviously yes the 3-D bat toppers have become more common in the pinball community. My only point is please don't just copy something. Be creative enough to make something original and stand on your own.

This is in no way a criticism of you, but it took me very little effort to go find that the other maker of the the AFM toppers makes flipper toppers for other games that are nearly exact copies of the designs that pre-existed his. Of course when we had our discussions, he offered all sorts of justifications. Bottom line is he shouldn't be critical of my designs that are similar to his when he first did the same thing with somebody else.

I now offer a multitude of 3D flipper toppers (just search the Pinside Market). If anyone wants to emulate my designs and offer a better product to the community, then I welcome the competition. I've had a multitude of my original decals and mods duplicated, and if that forces me to be a better designer and offer more mod flexibility to buyers, then so be it.

My intention is not to be divisive and I realize people will fall on opposite sides of the fence on this, but this is my perspective on the topic.

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#21 1 year ago

Love these and your coin door decals, custom cards. I’ve had them all. Great product great guy to deal with.

#22 1 year ago

I’m sorry but IP debates around pinball mods are absurd IMO. Did any of these guys get a license from doug Watson or Bally to use their saucer design? Live and let live.

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