I picked mine up cheap many moons ago. It played but needed a new playfield as the old one was worn to the wood and most of the inserts were lifted or gone. It hurt my feelings when the only one I found, a NOS, cost me $1200. Nearly what I paid for the game.

The shop job was a nightmare - adjusting the gophers exactly right took almost as much time as rebuilding the PF. I can see why this game was hated on location and didn't sell well. It really needs to be set up right. For example, the code doesn't take into account that the gophers may be out of position. If a gopher is supposed to be up, but is down, because of some mechanical issue, you can't lock a ball and you can't achieve multiball. And since the multiball jackpot shot is such a huge award, not being able to get there really screws the game. These types of things plague this game on location and is probably why people didn't like it back in the day.

On the other hand, if the game is set up right, it's such a blast to play. I think the layout is one of lawlor's best.

I set the gopher taunts to aggressive and have the ball fire back down the middle. Bud and Buzz are confrontational and funny. I hate golf, but I love this game.

the hole busted out on my buzz gofer some time back and yes, I could not find one anywhere. The solution was to create a mold of the existing gofer then cast one. It did not come out as nicely detailed as the original obviously but at least there was a gofer there to smash! I made 4 extra for the future just in case.

under the three unit flasher on the right hand side, if I am seeing correctly

If you haven't seen on this thread:https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ngg20-new-code-for-your-no-good-gofers-2020/page/5#post-5808116 I am rewriting the code for NGG. The pinmame portion needs some work and I need to rewrite the code that controls the slam ramp and the wheel.
For those of you who have a NGG please give me a hand because I don't want to have to go back and install the original boards.

What I need to know is how long exactly does the slam ramp stay down when it fires. I am thinking it is about 3 seconds but if someone could time it with a stop watch then that would be helpful.

updated the kit information sheet

No Good Gofers: Battle For The Green (NGG:B4G)
A Licensed “2.0” Upgrade Kit by Cardona Pinball Designs
Available NOW
MSRP $1999US

Includes everything you need to install No Good Gofers: Battle For The Green into a No Good Gofers Pinball machine.
• Speaker panel with (2) 4" Flipper Fidelity speakers, an industrial 15.6 inch monitor, and associated cabling.
• FAST Interface controller board (to be installed in the removed CPU location).
• CPU panel that includes CPU, FAST audio and accessory controller, and associated cabling (to be installed in the removed audio/video board location).
• Power Supply with fuse block and associated cabling.

Note: Interface controller offers the ability to add future expansion components such as shaker motors, RGB lighting kits, and the "Gofer Motion" Topper .

About No Good Gofers: Battle For The Green:
A wandering bear is head-struck by a golf ball and loses all his memory--even that he is a bear! Buzz, a mischievous munchkin of a gopher hates all golfers. When Buzz discovers the bear, he names him Bud and convinces him that he's really a gopher too. With Bud's raw strength, Buzz hatches a plan to take the golfers out and reclaim the course!

The music, animations, voice work, and sound effects follow this comical and cartoon-ish vein and were made to be accessible to all. Buzz tends to be critical and confrontational of the player's shots. Bud, on the other hand, is the comic relief of the team. He's a bear that thinks he's really an over-sized gopher. Let’s just say he’s a little slow on the uptake.

Resellers:
https://cardonapinball.com/products

https://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPM-KIT-NGG-BATTLE

cardonapinball.com contains the below links to videos of game play, installation of a kit, pre-installation steps, troubleshooting, and a demo video as well as manuals, flyers, promo material, and other documents.

Questions:
Does your kit include side art or a new backglass?
Not in the kit, however, we have contacted an industry leading artist to create new backglass artwork and we plan on offering this as an upgrade option for those who want it once the artist is done.

Can your kit play the original game?
Yes. The NGG:B4G upgrade kit will not only play the new game but players can also select the original game from a menu. Additionally, in future updates we plan to add functionality to the original game where appropriate.

About Cardona Pinball Designs:
Cardona Pinball Designs is licensed by Planetary Pinball Supply to create 2.0 game kits for Bally-Williams titles and has been working toward this end for approximately four years. Our main expertise is software and we subcontract or partner with professionals for other specialized work. For example, FAST is creating our hardware and we also use several artists and voice actors for content creation. We expect to release another licensed title in 2023 and two more licensed titles in 2024.

Our titles receive heavy public beta testing. NGG:B4G has been at The Pinball Gallery in Malvern, Pennsylvania ( https://pinballgallery.net) and at the Delaware Pinball Collective in Wilmington, Delaware since September 2020 ( https://www.delawarepinballcollective.com).

NGG:B4G has also been to several pinball shows such as:
• White Rose Gameroom Show ( http://www.theyorkshow.com)
• PinFest (http://www.pinfestival.com)
• Golden State Pinball Festival (https://www.goldenstatepinball.org)
• Northwest Pinball and Gameroom Show (http://www.nwpinballshow.com)
• Pin-a-go-go (http://www.pin-a-go-go.org)
• Texas Pinball Festival (https://www.texaspinball.com )

game rules

game play

installation video

troubleshooting videos

Thanks!

main thread is here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ngg20-new-code-for-your-no-good-gofers-2020

cointaker is now carrying the No Good Gofers: Battle for the Green kit

https://cointaker.com/products/no-good-gofers-battle-for-the-green-full-kit

welcome to the club. NGG is a great game and one I have owned for over two decades and will never sell.

For info on our kit please check post #1824 or you can check my other thread if you are interested in all of the hairy details of how this thing came to be: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ngg20-new-code-for-your-no-good-gofers-2020

In a nutshell, it is a 2.0 kit that allows you to play both the original game as well as a new 2.0 game that is more in line with modern games. We pitch it as paying 2000$ to make you machine more like one of the new $7000 machines that the current manufacturers are selling.

The thing that is exciting, I think, is the expansion possibilities that extend to the original game. We haven't released any accessories yet but we are working on things like toppers, RGB lighting kits, and shaker motors that would all work with the original code as well as the new code. Our desire is to take this title to another level.

planetary pinball will be at the Golden State Pinball Festival this weekend and will have both of Cardona Pinball Designs 2.0 games, Black Rose: Skull and Bones and No Good Gofers: Battle for the Green, in their booth for you to try out and play.

No Good Gofers: Battle for the Green kits will be for sale there as well so buy one at the show and save on shipping!

https://www.goldenstatepinball.org/

Planetary pinball will be at the NorthWest Pinball and Arcade Show June 2nd through Jun 4th and will have both of Cardona Pinball Designs 2.0 games, Black Rose: Skull and Bones and No Good Gofers: Battle for the Green for you to try out and play.
https://www.nwpinballshow.com/

No Good Gofers: Battle for the Green kits will be for sale there as well so buy one at the show and save on shipping!

Is it stopping about half way? Sometimes gofers body can get stuck on the lip of the hole if the bolt that holds the gofer is too tight and the gofer doesn't move freely.
If it is going down almost all the way then probably a wire or something moved and is catching. I had one case where this only happened when the playfield was down and it was the manual that I had sitting in the bottom of the cabinet obstructing the gofer.

Thanks for the good words. What we are looking to do with the original code right now is allow it to trigger accessories. The grand plan is to be able to add things such as interactive toppers, shaker motors, and RGB lighting kits and to have these work with both the 2.0 code as well as the original code.

As far as changing the original code, that is not on my plate but if someone had done that I would certainly want to add that to our kit as well. The only one who I have heard of doing such is Soren but I think his tweaks are mostly bug fixes, scoring tweaks, etc. Not adding full modes or really completing the game like, as you said, is what NGG needed.

During putt out, the wheel spins and a bunch of different mode names scroll on the screen. If you look close enough, you will notice a bunch of names of modes that do not exist in the game. Turtle wax comes to mind if I remember correctly. The game was never finished! This is what got me moving on 2.0 in the first place and why my code has real 6-ball multiballs, 2 wizard modes, and plenty of different cool modes that are all related to the original game in some way or another.

Anyway, it would be an undertaking, but if I rewrote the original rules from scratch then I could complete the game and I have contemplated this several times. Whether or not it would look as originally intended is another question. That was something I was considering about 4 years ago and I even emailed Pat Lawlor back then and asked what his true vision for the game was but he never got back to me. Not saying I am going to do this, because I really don't think the demand is there for me to justify me sinking another year of my life into it. Maybe someday I'll change my mind. For now you can play the original and the 2.0