I wouldn't use the "half-moon" slingshot mylars. If anything, I'd buy a sheet of mylar and hand cut a rectangular shape...that's what I did on mine...looks great. Don't forget to install some felt under the slam ramp as well.

Just picked up my first pin after much research, NGG. I love the game, it's awesome. There seems to be one problem that the ball gets stuck in the putting green for about 7-10 seconds after going in. Eventually it comes out, but seems like it's not supposed to work that way. Running a test, I get the error, "Check switch 38 jet popper", is this what the problem is, and any hints on troubleshooting? Thanks.

Could someone take a pic of the felt used under the slam ramp and a pic of it installed...

Thanks

The 7-10 seconds is because the game is doing a ball search.

Check to see if the kick out is missing the grommet on the bottom. I've seen this happen on two NGGs, including mine. Replaced it and kick out works perfectly.

AFAIK, there was no felt from the factory. I used small peel and stick felt pad circles, one on each corner.

Congrats! Although that is highly highly highly unlikely.

Mylar probably for front of slings...you don't need it.

Thanks, it looks like the grommet is still in the kickout. Do you recommend I replace it, and where would be the best place to pick one up?

This is the exact issue I am facing. Did you ever find a fix for this problem?

Never had the problem but it would reason there's a switch down there that needs tweaking. It goes in putting green and does not activate switch, which is why it has to wait for the ball search. So go in switch test mode and try it out.

Congrats, Great Lawlor Pin. Lots to go for...

Thanks for all the help. I flipped the playfield up, removed and cleaned the opto IR receiver, replaced, and it fixed the problem. Now on to cleaning....

I am not a member of the club....yet. I found a NGG near me that looks to be near perfect. No wear that I can see, gophers are perfect, side art is bright and not damaged. He is asking $3950. I played it a few games and enjoyed it. Is this price in line with the market for these in excellent condition?

Thanks.

It's all what the slam ramp damage is worth to you. Do you want one without damage? Of course, but you pay too steep a premium IMO. Usual games can be found around 3000 with some playfield divots, so basuically you're paying at least 700 for no damage in that area. The damage usually doesn't affect gameplay, so it's really an aesthetic thing.

NGG usually usually have nice cabinets and the PF are usually fine otherwise. For someone that owns one, it's not worth it to me.

I just picked mine up for $3,000. Other than being a little dirty, and a minor issue with the putt out return which I easily fixed, it's in great shape.

Buy it, it will be the best move you ever made. It's the poor man's version on MM get it now before the price goes sick

It's nothing like MM in layout or rules, and it's been holding a steady price for years.

Just think it's a very underrated game was what I was saying. Bit of poetic licence if you will. But you are the law, and nobody fucks with the law. Taking the " actually " path is much better. Dick!

I paid $3600 for a true HUO. Awesome game very happy...

Yeah, totally underrated just like MM Ha just kidding my man!

I have a restored one - no slam ramp damage - and everything is 9.5+/10. I'm not sure I'd take anything less than $4k for it.

Only 2,700 made - say go for it.

Has anyone fitted out their NGG with LEDs, and if so, which set would you recommend? Not looking for something that is blinding and would prefer a kit that has it all. Thanks!

You could consult with Art at Comet - he has great advice and his product is excellent and well-priced.

I did mine with a combination of twin and single SMD from Comet (though any LED manufacture is probably fine.) Cool white for the GI and backbox, color matched inserts. I didn't use non-ghosting bulbs, so you can save a couple of bucks not buying those.

Just did mine yesterday with Comet's bulbs as well. All natural whites, including backbox. I did use a couple of colored ones I got as part of a package from Comet in the pop's and I ordered a couple specialty bulbs for the spotlights. The game really looks like new now. Tough to get at those bulbs on the top of the PF - have to remove ramps, etc., but it is well worth the effort! Good luck..

Comet recommended the frosted Sunlight Whites for NGG for me since there are so many oranges, yellows and whites. Those, along with some assorted colors, were totally perfect. There are 5 weird blinkers in the back box -- they can be really expensive but Comet had a good solution for those.

In other news, does anyone have a link to a US source for these NGG playfield protectors? Or who manufactures them?

http://www.ministryofpinball.com/en/game-specific-items/williams/no-good-gofers/no-good-gofers-playfield-protector.html

I totally want to try one.

ColorDMD now available folks! Was so excited to order my first one earlier today!

And a repro playfield in the makes...good to have a NGG these days

When replacing the decal on the spinner, does it simply peel off?

Thanks

Picking up a NGG tonight!

Update: Ended up holding off on this one. Still considering it or may look for another one.

Sure are a lot of HOU NGG in Michigan these days

Just mine

Jury is still out on that one

Come and play it and you tell me....bought bubble hockey in same condition, your welcome any time!

Christmas Eve, and the post lady delivered a present! Colordmd for NGG.....this game is like night and day now. Only problem is the animations are so amazing in color you can't keep your eye on the ball. A lot of things that were easy to miss with orange dots. Colordmd, an expensive mod, but some games are so much better with it. Keep on adding those ROMS crew!

Just joined the club, now that TheLaw is out. I'm going to repaint Buzz and Bud. I'm thinking of using Createx airbrush paint and then two-part auto clear. Has anyone repainted theirs, and what paint did you use and how has it held up?

Congrats, ColorDMD is so sweet. And putting warm color LED's really bring out the color.

Anyone know where I can find a new AV board? I've looked at a 1/2 dozen places and all are out of stock.

I'm toying with a trade offer for my Avatar Pro HUO for a really nice NGG with a few mods and LEDs. NGG was not on my radar at all and was basically thinking about selling out or trading up to another newer type Stern. Any thoughts from you NGG fans? (I'm assuming I'm asking a biased crowd but photos will be available later. This is owned by another Pinsider I know and trust which is a big consideration too.)

Feel free to comment on the relative values and fun factors.

Thanks.

My likes for NGG , love the each way loop with spinners and multipliers.the captive ball had a nice solid feel to it.4 ramps,great light show,pretty good flow.

Out of my four, NGG is my "gotta get one more game in" pin. The others, I can play a game and walk away. Something about trying to post a good gophers score is addictive.

I've owned two and just traded my most recent one for a Shadow plus cash. Great game without a doubt and boy does the new color DMD look awesome for it! Do the trade...you'll enjoy NGG and so will the rest of your family and friends.

I can't think of many games that are less fun than Avatar

My NGG gets as much play as any other machine I have. It's fun!

Hi,
Can anyone advise where I can get the correct diode for the switch at the NGG slingshots for the "SCORE" activation? The switch the diode is connected to is part number A-17794? The NGG operation manual I have does not identify the diode, just the switch. Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Thanks, Mike

Ask and answer: Diode 1N4001 Available at Pinball Life.

Can anyone give suggestions on how to remove scratches from the mini playfield ? The ones on mine aren't terrible but at the right angle they can be seen clearly. A replacement is costly = $149

Novus 3 followed by Novus 2. If they are deeper you may want to start with some really fine sandpaper first, 1500 grit or higher. Then switch to the polishes.

Being that it is clear plastic I would try flame polishing

Installed a color DMD in my NGG and it is great addition to my game.

I think this is a different material (polycarbonate) than ramps though and doesn't react like ramp material. So, would hesitate to run with this idea.

I did the novus thing with a 3" random orbital polisher and worked well.