C37 is a great looking game.

Atlantis is a great player. It's not even close. Atlantis all the way.

I had an opportunity like this and I got both, but it is Atlantis and Abra Ca Dabra that I got. Another game with really nice artwork and a better player than C37

Hey boiler, if that's what you want, get a Williams game. I own four of them and that's pretty much the way they play. One of them, Ding Dong, once you get a special lit, even if you don't collected it, when the ball drains, that's it, start over. It makes them really challenging.

River Boat has a special that stays on, but another special that goes out once you collect it, or lose the ball. Cool

Three of mine are mid 60s. Great games, all of them.

Bally was big on the carry over feature. The one Bally I own has one.

That Heat Wave was supposed to be mine some day, but our friend decided it was time to move it on and I just couldn't swing it at the time.

I've hit the skip shot and I don't think it's ever collected the 5000. Just have to take the glass off and trip two drops not adjacent and see what happens.

Not an EM but I did this same thing with my Gottlieb Pinball Pool. That game has the two banks of seven drop targets on each side. Gottlieb came up with a idea they called "remo-trip" when if you hit a drop on one side, it dropped a corresponding target on the other side. It differed on how the drops happened depending on if you had it set on 3 ball or 5 ball.

I thought that would make the game too easy so I just disabled the remo-trip altogether. And it makes the game a bunch tougher to play. I just didn't like the idea of collecting targets I didn't come near. Although, Top Card has this same type of feature where on three ball hitting one standup will collect another. I guess it's an ok idea but it wasn't for me. Easy enough to reverse, though, it's just one switch that I permanently opened.

Question on that protector.

Do you have to remove the bagatelle wireforms? Sure looks like it. There are also pins above two of the wireforms in the bagatelle, and pins in the return lane on the right flipper, and of course in the corners of the outlanes?

I don't really want to be removing those wireforms if I don't have to do it. Not necessarily a hard job but things can go wrong.

Interesting idea though.

Well, at least for Atlantis you can have it all once Wade gets going, as PBR has the plastics and bgresto the glass.

Lee and Gordon have the plastics for ACD and Ron Webb has the glass. Only need the playfield. And the game. And I'm taking care of that part of it this weekend.

Atlantis' drops reset.

I've removed them before and I know it's not that bad a job, but you never know prying something out of the playfield can go wrong.

If I was going to stay with my current playfield long term I'd consider it, but since I'm probably not going to do that, I won't. Thanks for the info though.

Well, I knew that would be a reply. And I understand it. But for some reason, despite the obvious popularity of this game, neither has done one. I don't pretend to know why. Maybe this glass just had better staying power? Mine is extremely nice, just two very small flakes in the fish above the score reels.

I would also say that Steve at bgresto is constantly working to tweak and improve his product. I've had a great experience with Ron Webb's glasses. Never bought a Shay glass but I have a friend who has and his experience hasn't been so positive. Color matching issues there.

LOL, don't know how I missed that one. Bad Monday I guess.

All I can tell you is I saw the two glasses he bought from Shay and they weren't even close. Now, maybe I'm too picky, but generally I'm not, but those glasses had colors that just weren't at all close.