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Atlantis Gottlieb ball count advance problem


By AdamPDX

8 days ago



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#1 8 days ago

Newbie here with a problem and looking for guidance/suggestions. Periodically at startup I have to launch a couple of balls without a ball count starting and I just have to let them fall through the playfield without anything working until it launches into ball 1 and I can start the game. Another issue, which I assume is related, where the ball count remains the same and doesn't advance after kicking the ball back into the shooter lane, it advances with manual pressure but I can't seem to set the prong or contacts correctly to do automatically. I tried cleaning the contacts and sanding lightly with 600 grit but that just added to the problems where the right flipper seems to seize up in the upright position when I manually press the prong to advance the ball. There also seems to be multiple efforts to kick the ball through every time and I don't know if that's typical. I don't know anything really. Total amateur looking for some guidance. I've included a 2 minute video here if anybody wants to offer some advice. Thank you much!

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#2 8 days ago

Hey Adam, nice Atlantis! For the trough switch that advances the ball count unit, I think the switch blades are a bit bent up. They should be pretty straight so the contact points make good contact. Also, you may need to adjust them so they are a little closer together. There should just be a small gap between them.

The ball return kicker should only kick once as far as I know. I’ll have to look into that and why the right flipper would lock up like that. When does that flipper behave that way? When the ball goes into the hole, or over the trough switch?

#3 8 days ago

Do you have a tool for adjusting the switch blades? If they’re too bent up, you may have to find replacements for them.

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#4 8 days ago

Thanks Jason! I've been messing around with trying to bend the blades but they may be shot as you said. Once I straightened them as best I could, the flipper quit freezing up as it had before. I still can't manipulate them enough to work properly and it's still kicking out 3 or 4 times with every ball. It always has and I was told the machine was working perfect when I bought it, so it's now become a learning project for me. Any leads on where I can buy new blades? Do you think I need to buy a new kicker? I feel with more force or speed it would make enough contact to advance.

#5 8 days ago

You could post in the EM seeking parts thread asking if anyone has a trough switch-lots of really helpful guys there. You would need to do some soldering.

I wonder if the outhole kicker keeps repeating because the switch is gapped too close or the wire form maybe getting caught up. You shouldn’t need to replace the kicker.

I go to the Pinball Resource (PBR) whenever I need parts. Marco is great too and is usually easier navigate.

#6 8 days ago

You were absolutely right about the kicker switch. I widened the gap slightly and it's working as it should. I've actually rigged a rubber band around the leaf switch and accompanying post on the ball count switch. Temporary fix but it seems like this machine I bought is rigged all over. I definitely have a project on my hands here. I'll be looking for a replacement leaf switch there and thanks for the recommendations on where to look. The right flipper still likes to randomly flip here and there or freeze, not sure if wiring is too close or flawed. I appreciate your help, I just want to play and enjoy this machine!

#7 7 days ago

Adam,

Regarding the stuck flipper - post a pic of the right flipper switch, mounted on the right side of the cabinet. How does the gap look on that switch?

#8 7 days ago

A good primer on cleaning and adjusting switches:

http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index2.htm#clean

Bookmark the pinrepair site... it's a great resource!

#9 7 days ago
Quoted from jasonspoint28:

I wonder if the outhole kicker keeps repeating because the switch is gapped too close or the wire form maybe getting caught up. You shouldn’t need to replace the kicker.

If it's not the switch causing the ball to get hung up after the kick, the kicker arm may be (probably is) worn/mushroomed where it contacts the ball as it kicks it, that's a common issue. Causes the ball to be thrown too much 'up' vs. forward down the trough. And it's not a great design to begin with.

#10 6 days ago

Thanks guys. Going to open her up again tomorrow and figure this out. I appreciate the help.

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