This doesn't make sense to me if you are trying to pay out everyone who makes state, if they are paying in $20 more, then what is their payout for making state? Pay $20 then get $16 back for 16th place or something lol. I thought this was going to make getting to state a payout not a buy-in again after paying a buck all year? I guess maybe for states that don't run enough events to pay out the whole top 16? I dunno. If I am guaranteed a payout but am also paying to play in it that just seems silly.

no, I think one of the main points for WI is it is illegal to have any payouts at all and this puts their TDs in a sticky situation and is also why the events there are all free currently.

Also, its super shitty to internet shame people over money because everyone has different incomes and there is the ability to participate in this hobby at all ranges of financial wealth.

Only those who pay the fee will be counted to the tournament. So yes, if only 12 paid only 12 people will show up and the tournament will only be valued as 12 people in it. if the top 13 don't pay then 14th place will be awarded the victory.

Like YOU tonight at your tourny! I'm coming for ya WPPRS RYAN!!!!!

You dont have any events. It would be easy to start having some. I tried to talk Bob into running events and leagues when he opened up Flippers but I dont think he cares. Someone local should do them there tho with his blessing.

I know if they held events at Flippers a few of us in Fort Collins would support the effort for sure. Trick is getting Bob involved. He doesn't even respond to me anymore when I tell him what issues his route games up here have so I don't even bother trying to help anymore lol. He has a Congo on location that hasnt had a ball in the lower playfield for over a year haha

Frax isn't traveling man

I was assuming his pic of you was to say you were ranked in the "new" Wisconsin ratings, but you would never travel there hah.

most large tournaments have a line in the rules that it is up to the TD to determine if there is a restriction needed for a player who may not fall into the ifpa ranking that they set for the A,B etc. restrictions. I would hope no real TD would let Bowen play in anything but A lol