I'll wait and see how this one develops ... I'm sure it will be fantastic game play and rules, but I want to see how well it hold up over time to see if it is problematic in any way. But then JJP #5 might sway me by that time.

My wife & I played it at Expo and we liked it, but ordered a DILE instead while we are waiting it out ... ya, that's my excuse.

You and I have similar pinball tastes and I have similar concerns with JJPOTC as you. I would only get SW if I found a really good deal (steal) on one, but have the same opinion on it as you.

I played JJPOTC at Expo and felt the same way you expressed. Currently it does not draw me in like TH and WOZ, but does have that one more time feel to it to find that magic. If you think about TH and WOZ, that adrenaline rush doesn't happen for me (and maybe you too) until you get into the various modes. When not in those modes, you have withdrawals to get back to the modes. That seems to me to be the way that JJP has coded these pins. I'm guessing that JJPOTC will do the exact same once the code/modes are developed. I did see a few people advance into a couple of modes and also shoot the cannon with success, and the adrenaline was there for that person and wished I could try that experience with the 8-10 tries I had at it (play better). With the super high price tag, I'm waiting to see how this one develops. I'm waiting for delivery on a DI that is a lot of fun, played one many times, initially like it a lot, but is a slightly different "style" than TH, WOZ, and likely JJPOTC. If the "lastability" of that one is short for my HUO, then I will likely swap it out in my collection for another JJP pin. I think it will be a favorite for the non-pinball geeks that visit - we will see.

konghusker ... oh and by the way ... I didn't mention it, but I "hope" to buy a JJPOTC if it turns out as good as we anticipate. That will take some time, so that would not be a purchase for another year or two. Maybe a second hand purchase if good deals pop up by then.

You just bought approval for your next pin in the future.

Eric showed my wife and I some of the game stats that he looks at for the Level 257 prototype location. The average ball time on that public pin was 3 minutes and about 34 seconds if I remember right. He said that they do want to target about 3 minute ball times for locations and would adjust code to tweak that in. When we played it over 25 times, we only had a few balls that played for over 5 minutes. We are just mediocre players in the middle of the standings on a local pinball league as reference. Eric and Keith are exceptional players that know the game inside and out. I hope to one day be able to have those long ball times on this pin to be able to see some of those modes.