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Are we at the point of Market Saturation?

By vdojaq

1 year ago


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    #36 1 year ago

    Pinball machines have not reached market saturation, and a comparison can be drawn between the pinball machine industry and the automotive industry to support this argument.

    The automotive industry is a mature industry that has been around for over a century. Despite this long history, the industry continues to innovate and introduce new models, features, and technologies to meet changing consumer preferences and needs. Every year, car manufacturers release new models and designs to attract buyers and gain market share. This constant innovation and introduction of new products are evidence that the automotive industry has not reached market saturation.

    Similarly, the pinball machine industry has also shown a willingness to innovate and introduce new products to the market. Pinball machine manufacturers have released new models with different themes, features, and technologies to appeal to new audiences and retain their current customer base. For example, recent innovations in the pinball machine industry include interactive LED lighting, high-definition displays, and advanced sound systems. These new features and technologies have helped to attract new buyers to the market and keep existing customers interested.

    Furthermore, the pinball machine industry has not yet reached market saturation because there are still untapped markets and opportunities for growth. Pinball machines are popular among certain demographics, such as collectors, enthusiasts, and hobbyists, but there are still many potential customers who have yet to experience the thrill of playing a pinball machine. Additionally, the rise of barcades, which are bars that feature classic arcade games, including pinball machines, has created a new market for pinball machine manufacturers to tap into.

    In conclusion, the automotive industry's constant innovation and introduction of new models and technologies demonstrate that it has not reached market saturation. Similarly, the pinball machine industry's willingness to innovate and appeal to new audiences and untapped markets suggests that it has not yet reached market saturation.

    #39 1 year ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    The old cargument! We don’t need pinball machines, we need cars to get around

    While it is true that cars are a crucial mode of transportation for many people, it is important to recognize that there are many other forms of entertainment and leisure activities that people enjoy besides just transportation. Pinball machines provide a fun and nostalgic experience for many individuals, and they can be enjoyed by people of all ages.

    Moreover, pinball machines are not just a form of entertainment but also an art form. The intricate artwork, designs, and themes that are incorporated into pinball machines make them a unique and valuable piece of pop culture history. Many pinball machines are now collector's items and can be worth a significant amount of money.

    Furthermore, the pinball machine industry is not just about producing games for personal entertainment. Many businesses, such as bars and arcades, use pinball machines as a way to attract customers and generate revenue. In this sense, pinball machines can be seen as a valuable tool for small businesses and the local economy.

    In summary, while cars are undoubtedly a crucial mode of transportation, it is important to recognize the value of other forms of entertainment and leisure activities, such as pinball machines. The pinball machine industry provides entertainment, art, and economic benefits that should not be overlooked or undervalued.

    #50 1 year ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    The car analogy isn’t relevant.
    Pinball, as an entertainment/hobby/leisure option is fantastic.
    You can’t just sweep under the rug the times that the pinball industry suffered because of lack of demand.
    Today, we are nowhere near the peak of the Williams/Bally days in the 90s.
    When things get too expensive in any hobby or leisure endeavor, the demand is “pruned”.
    When the price of Oil spiked last summer there was “demand destruction” happening with people filling up their tanks and driving, brought pricing back down and supply in balance.
    Pinball is a fun/great hobby, the LCD innovation, lighting etc has brought it to another level
    To act like there is no limit and demand is “inelastic” like a Pepsi product is “Crazy”.
    People still buy a bag of chips with less chips and a .10 cent increase to cover inflation.

    You raise valid points regarding the fluctuations in demand for pinball machines and the impact of pricing on the market. While it is true that the pinball industry has experienced periods of low demand in the past, it is also true that the industry has rebounded and continues to innovate and introduce new products and technologies to appeal to customers.

    Additionally, while demand for pinball machines may not be completely inelastic, the recent innovations in the industry, such as LCD displays, interactive lighting, and advanced sound systems, have helped to attract new buyers and retain existing customers. These innovations have enhanced the playing experience and increased the value of pinball machines as a form of entertainment and leisure activity.

    Moreover, the resurgence of barcades and other businesses that feature classic arcade games, including pinball machines, suggests that there is still a demand for these games and that they can be a profitable business venture.

    In conclusion, while demand for pinball machines may not be completely inelastic, the industry's willingness to innovate and introduce new products and technologies, coupled with the continued popularity of classic arcade games, suggests that the pinball machine industry has not yet reached market saturation and can still thrive as a form of entertainment and leisure activity.

    #55 1 year ago
    Quoted from SonOfaDiddly:

    other people's ai prompted content is about as interesting as other people's dreams are

    more interesting than another bubble talk tho

    #56 1 year ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    I agree with your conclusion that pinball can still thrive as a form of entertainment. It already is because of all the reasons we discussed.
    Location pinball doesn’t buy high end pins for the most part because of the low ROI
    “Market saturation”? The TAM, total addressable market is much higher.
    BUT, every time the price gets jacked up a % of the pool of buyers peels off.
    We need housing, mortgage rates go up, demand suffers, pool of buyers go down

    Bruh, I can't. Just finish this chat at https://chat.openai.com/chat

    #61 1 year ago
    Quoted from zh2oson:

    So...you don't want me to post the AI-generated treatment I just ran for a coming-of-age movie about an awkward teenager who discovers himself through pinball?
    Your loss.

    my DMs are open

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