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Quoted from Borygard:Significantly more.
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I hope not. That would make no sense at all.
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Quoted from f3honda4me:I hope not. That would make no sense at all.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the new Yellow Brick Road WOZ is slightly stripped down, on a new platform, and that the type of platform design will carry over to Willy Wonka. This is just a guess and I'm basing it off of Pirates production rumored to be ending for good, past rumors of a stripped down WOZ, and just guessing that JJP wants to take more ownership from Stern with a lower price point.
Could also be some crazy expensive edition along the lines of Dialed In CE and Pirates CE...I don't see a lot of buyers though for a super expensive WOZ due to how long the game has already been out. A lower priced version of the game makes more sense to target a new audience.
Quoted from KLR2014:Posted on facebook. Seems like new stuff.
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Not on JJP's Facebook. That is a picture of an ECLE.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Depends. If you bought an ECLE at $6500 - $7500 years ago and new games are close to $10k then I think you are in pretty good shape. Even with 7.5v boards (vast majority have never had an issue) I would put current average HUO stock ECLE prices between $7k - $8k. Toss a 2.0 board kit in those games and I would put the price around $8500. At the end of the day I think the ECLE will be the only true limited edition version of WOZ as it has the direct printed cabinet, green armor throughout, and the clear coated wood apron with plaque.
yup, and still the best looking machine!
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Not on JJP's Facebook. That is a picture of an ECLE.
I know but is that sign also in the ECLE ?
Quoted from KLR2014:I know but is that sign also in the ECLE ?
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Not on JJP's Facebook. That is a picture of an ECLE.
Hmm, don't all the ECLE's and standards say "Follow the Yellow Brick Road" while the 75ths say "75th anniversary limited edition"?
So, is that a new WOZ? It says "We're off to see the wizard"??
EDIT: nevermind looks like the ECLE's randomly said different things so that is apparently an ECLE
Quoted from f3honda4me:Hmm, don't all the ECLE's and standards say "Follow the Yellow Brick Road" while the 75ths say "75th anniversary limited edition"?
So, is that a new WOZ? It says "We're off to see the wizard"??
EDIT: nevermind looks like the ECLE's randomly said different things so that is apparently an ECLE
Yeah, ECLE back glasses have 1 of at least 3 different phrases on them.
Quoted from cleland:$12,500 and limited to 200 world wide.
Wow...Any word about what extra features are in the game and if new code is coming out for all models?
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Wow...Any word about what extra features are in the game and if new code is coming out for all models?
Not sure about what extra features could warrant a $12,500 price tag. I was really hoping for a cheaper model myself.
Quoted from cleland:$12,500 and limited to 200 world wide.
Man I hope you're joking. That would be a stupid price. Anything over $9500 IMO is more than it should be given that's more than any WOZ already costed NIB to date.
Quoted from tacshose:If it is just a CE cash grab, then that will not sell 200 and it is a good thing they are running RRWOZ again at the same time.
I guarantee you are wrong; I’ve thought that about every single CE they’ve made..
Quoted from tacshose:If it is just a CE cash grab, then that will not sell 200 and it is a good thing they are running RRWOZ again at the same time.
Pretty sure that's been said in another forum. Only 200 YBR and they are only running enough RR to fill the orders they already have.
Sounds like this will be the a temporary stopping point for WOZ until they get more demand. So expect the price to be inline with the CE. $12,500.
If not it will still be over what the RR is going for.
Quoted from delt31:Very smart move by Jack. These 200 will be sold out in a week or less.
Highly doubt it. POTC CE still aren't sold out and that game is just as good as WOZ.
Quoted from arcademojo:Pretty sure that's been said in another forum. Only 200 YBR and they are only running enough RR to fill the orders they already have.
Sounds like this will be the a temporary stopping point for WOZ until they get more demand. So expect the price to be inline with the CE. $12,500.
If not it will still be over what the RR is going for.
I don't think there are any outstanding RR. I have been trying to buy an RR for a while and was told they weren't taking orders for them the last couple months and that no are being made right now, so there are no outstanding orders for them.
Quoted from f3honda4me:Highly doubt it. POTC CE still aren't sold out and that game is just as good as WOZ.
You do realize the appeal of WoZ is 10 times plus POTC. No one likes POTC theme even though the game is great. Look at the sales of WoZ to back that up.
200 is smart move they will sell
Quoted from delt31:You do realize the appeal of WoZ is 10 times plus POTC. No one likes POTC even though the game is great. Look at the sales of WoZ to back that up.
200 is smart move they will sell
If I can't buy a normal priced version of WOZ NIB I'm gonna be pissed lol. 
Quoted from f3honda4me:Highly doubt it. POTC CE still aren't sold out and that game is just as good as WOZ.
POTC CE and LE are sold out to distributors and those that have them are down to their last ones, many don't have any left.
Quoted from delt31:You do realize the appeal of WoZ is 10 times plus POTC. No one likes POTC theme even though the game is great. Look at the sales of WoZ to back that up.
200 is smart move they will sell
Pirates of the Caribbean seems like a classic if not timeless theme at this point. Maybe not the movies, even though nearly everyone has seen at least the first one, but pretty much everyone and their neighbor knows about the Disney World ride that has been around for over 50 years.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:POTC is a classic theme at this point considering nearly everyone knows about the ride that has been around for years and has seen at least the first film.
There was a precipitous drop after the first film. I wish the game was centered around the ride.
Quoted from Mike_J:There was a precipitous drop after the first film. I wish the game was centered around the ride.
Just to note, total budget for all 5 films was $1.27 billion and the total box office take was $4.56 billion.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Just to note, total budget for all 5 films was $1.27 billion and the total box office take was $4.56 billion.
Thanks for the note.
I still wish it was based on the ride or that it would have included some of the main actors and film footage from this $4.6 billion franchise.
Quoted from Mike_J:Thanks for the note.
I still wish it was based on the ride or that it would have included some of the main actors and film footage from this $4.6 billion franchise.
Rather have more toys and features as the game is today then video clips, otherwise it may have looked as bare as Star Wars.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:Rather have more toys and features as the game is today then video clips, otherwise it may have looked as bare as Star Wars.
Yeah, maybe, but I’d never buy Stern Star Wars either.
I’ve played JJP POTC a few times at the Silverball Museum and its not a game for me.
Quoted from arcademojo:Pretty sure that's been said in another forum. Only 200 YBR and they are only running enough RR to fill the orders they already have.
Sounds like this will be the a temporary stopping point for WOZ until they get more demand. So expect the price to be inline with the CE. $12,500.
If not it will still be over what the RR is going for.
Obviously WOZ YBR has also been discussed in the Wonka thread
Quoted from f3honda4me:I don't think there are any outstanding RR. I have been trying to buy an RR for a while and was told they weren't taking orders for them the last couple months and that no are being made right now, so there are no outstanding orders for them.
You are correct and kinda wrong. I've also been on the hunt for a RR NIB. They are sold out and there will be none for sale "unless there is a backout" The ones that are being made are to fill the previous bought games. So yes there are still outstanding orders. but they are sold out.
Quoted from musketd:JJP prices are very high
Yep. And you get what you pay for - awesome pins!
Quoted from CaptainNavidad:Yep. And you get what you pay for - awesome pins!
Well before they stepped into the game; we were only paying 4K for full feature pins
Quoted from musketd:Well before they stepped into the game; we were only paying 4K for full feature pins
That was a lifetime ago also.
Quoted from arcademojo:That was a lifetime ago also.
I guess just wish JJP would offer up something different try to compete against the pro and the classic editions from Chicago and Stern but they keep picking these kiddie themes
Quoted from f3honda4me:If I can't buy a normal priced version of WOZ NIB I'm gonna be pissed lol.
Get a WOZ standard with 2.0 lighting?
Quoted from musketd:Well before they stepped into the game; we were only paying 4K for full feature pins
Quoted from musketd:I guess just wish JJP would offer up something different try to compete against the pro and the classic editions from Chicago and Stern but they keep picking these kiddie themes
Sounds like they made your decision easy. While many wish they would lower prices to compete w Stern, CGC, and others is that what you think they are going to do? They are making higher quality pins with more toys and should command a premium.
I’m guessing Wonka versions will be $ 9-12 k + and will sell very well. Jack is expecting 2,000 units for each of the next 2 releases.
Quoted from musketd:I guess just wish JJP would offer up something different try to compete against the pro and the classic editions from Chicago and Stern but they keep picking these kiddie themes
#metoo!!!
Quoted from cleland:Updated my original info. $11,500 and 500 units. Still too much for me. To think I had an original ECLE at $6500 back in the day. I tend to make poor decisions with these things.
500 units is max before this turns into a bad decision. I like the earlier numbers but still, could be good for JJP but he's starting to push it.
Quoted from Eskaybee:Get a WOZ standard with 2.0 lighting?
There are none at any reputable distros that I have found.
Quoted from cleland:Updated my original info. $11,500 and 500 units. Still too much for me. To think I had an original ECLE at $6500 back in the day. I tend to make poor decisions with these things.
Where are you seeing this info?
Quoted from musketd:Well before they stepped into the game; we were only paying 4K for full feature pins
This is such an old and played out argument. Don't blame JJP for Stern no longer offering full featued games for $4k...blame Stern and their customers (us!). Oh, a little blame can go to inflation too.
Stern saw what JJP was charging and decided to jack up their prices all while stripping out features and lowering quality. It's kinda like Ford deciding to charge $50k for a Focus just because a competitor is charging $50k for a product that actually justifies the price tag.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:This is such an old and played out argument. Don't blame JJP for Stern no longer offering full featued games for $4k...blame Stern and their customers (us!). Oh, a little blame can go to inflation too.
Stern saw what JJP was charging and decided to jack up their prices all while stripping out features and lowering quality. It's kinda like Ford deciding to charge $50k for a Focus just because a competitor is charging $50k for product that actually justifies the price tag.
Regardless the reason, today’s prices are just plain silly.
Quoted from f3honda4me:If it’s $11.5k it better have some amazing added features in it. That’s a stupid price.
JJP and even Stern, are known for stupid prices.
Quoted from cleland:Updated my original info. $11,500 and 500 units. Still too much for me. To think I had an original ECLE at $6500 back in the day. I tend to make poor decisions with these things.
Your info doesn't mean jack without at least a source. I could make up numbers too.
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