No all gone you better go premium

I bought 4. Starting the Ebay auctions at $12k.

Automated has one Ebay for 9k. Maybe you can swing a non-ebay deal with them

Automated are very shady from what I hear and they do not take car of their repeat customers

I wonder if the guys in the band are each getting a MOP ...that would mean there are even less!!!!

Maybe Stern will make them their own special version that wont be part of the 500

I can guarantee that James will get a one off.

Yes but they're in Canada eh

I think James got one so if anyone else has I would be interested as long as price not too ridiculous

I think I was sleeping wed or something because by the time I saw pics on thurs they were gone lol.
Picked a bad day not to check the forums.

Kinda surprised they didn't make more les. They must have know a while ago that this game was gonna be huge.

I know it's been said before but stern should look into combine LE and premium Into 1 game. Seems like a lot more people didn't get one that wanted vs people that did. In essence making less than half your fan base unhappy. People won't miss an LE if stern doesnt make one.

Keep armor and glass translight, get rid of the certificate and plaque or number as many as they can sell. Give pre orders a better price than subsequent runs so they can still get a strong early order. Maybe also sign only the first run as a pre order bonus. Seems this would make every happy but flippers as they would have to wait till game is out of print before they can flip at a profit.

It will be interesting to see what happens if a Ton of people start preordering everything super early now. Will that cause stern to start better anticipating demand and maybe start making more? Will le games start selling out before the name of the game is announced? Will a giant emp blast hit the us and end the pinball hobby as we know it?

I'd bet a lot of money that you will see more than 500 Star Trek LE's. No way they only do 500 coming off the success of Metallica. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1500 or even 2000.

I guess toss me on the list. I was and am still torn but the coffin window, Borg and Lyman are gnawing at me.

Gotta love the assholes that buy a ton of games and flip for outrageous prices. Its sad to watch this hobby go to shit so damn fast.

Yah, because no one ever did that with routed MM's, AFM's, MB's, TotAN's, etc. They sold them for what they had into them, of course. I mean, who didn't get an MM off route a year or two ago for $4,000. Hell, I got 2!

Why are people wigging out about this? Does anyone honestly think this is something new? "People buy stuff and profit. Film at 11". Maybe folks are just upset they missed out?

"You snooze, you loose."

I'm not wigging, its my opinion and I am entitled to it. I am in the hobby for the love of the games and the memories it brings back. Just sucks that most flippers could give a rats ass about pinball and what it means to someone who really loves it. Believe it or not most of us are priced out of the market on alot of these games (except the richies riches and the elitists) and will never be able to enjoy owning one. I know people will say too fucking bad, money talks, blah blah. I am all for people making money and being creative enough to make it happen, but pinball to me is about way more than money. This just makes me sad. End of story.

That's a no brainer, even X-Men had more than 500 LEs. Distributors felt burnt over left over TF, XM, and AV LE stock, so they cut the Metallica LE from 2 models to 1 and total number down. If they pre-announced info to gauge customer interest rather than clamping down on info, they wouldn't have had to resort to guessing, which has burned them every single time. I repeat... EVERY SINGLE TIME.

If that's the case than the premium should be fine for you. Game play will be the same between the premium and LE.

Shame, because speculation is the beginning of the end of the bubble. Most high priced collectables are that way because people didn't buy them.

AC/DC had 500 LE's total (LTBR @ 200/ BIB @ 300) so 1 Metallica LE @ 500 makes sense to me to cut costs down. I bought into the AC/DC and XM but wasnt happy with my XM purchase due to so many problems with them out the box. This prevented me from buying the Avengers too. Plus im somewhat sick of Super Hero themes.

Of course.

Fairly broad statement. We don't even know where all the pins went. Maybe 485 people got single LE's. Do you know who purchased what?

For me as well. That's why I put games on location, to give people a chance to play the games they can't afford to purchase, and hopefully introduce new people to pinball. Maybe that's an option for you as well.

I concur. Folks getting upset about missing out on the LE, or people stock piling games should purchase a Premium. Same game, less price, nothing limited about it. Plus you stick it to the flipper's by not caving to their prices. Win-win.

Smokedog, all valid points. I applaud you not stopping to my level and being civil. Most of the time I am fine and I have a nice ollection so I can;t complain. Once in awile things get to me a bit. I try to be civil and positive in my posts.

That would make WOZLE a lower limited production run

Happens to everyone. I've been burned on deals a couple of times. Try not to let it get me down. I'm just thankful I can afford what I have. Attitude of gratitude and all that jazz

Life is short. Spend time being positive and enjoy it.

This hobby has been around for a long time "so quickly" makes no sense.

People have been buying and flipping games since I could remember, its a part of every hobby. I cant imagine anyone buying something, working on it and selling it for less.

Sounds like many distributors got their allotments cut big time
with a larger portion of machines going to Europe. Sterns biggest US Dist cannot be happy
about being promised a certain number of machine and then getting the rug pulled on them.

This is a fact.

Is there a limit of units you can purchase when you are at a distributor level ? Such as scalpers who can't buy more than X tickets not to block everybody else.

Maybe a distributer can answer that for us, but I have been told that the distributers Le units that they are allowed to receive is based on the number of Pro and Premium models that they order.

There absolutely has to be a limit on LE's - otherwise any distributor would bag them all and charge a ridiculous price for them.