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Are Rottendog Boards as Good as Original?

By scampcamp

6 years ago


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#25 6 years ago
Quoted from schudel5:

To each his own. That's a spend road as you start to pick up more and more games. Definitely one I'll never travel down.
I only have two games with Altek MPUs, but everything else is original. I very rarely wrench on any boards. If I do it's typically very minor like connectors.

Agreed. Sometimes it takes a bit more to get them working initially but once you replace or update the common failure points, original boards are extremely reliable.

Its nice to have RD or Altek boards as options to replace missing or basket case boards but they need not be your first option.

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#87 6 years ago
Quoted from CaligoldBob:

Still no sound. Doubled checked sound board connection pins. Didn't remove board, used mirror to see, but just for my own piece of mind I'll pull the board recheck everything.
Part two, I know this is off topic a little, but I have also been rebuilding all snubber boards with the information found here at Pinside. Found two fried resistors on two different boards. Aftermarket ones not being made anymore, but from what I found here, might as well rebuild them all. One thing that has confused me. Color code shows 470 ohm resistor, but everyone here is saying 150 ohm. Also upgrading the caps. with 3000 hr. ones instead of the standard 2000 hr. Jameco here in the bay area has everything. Two diodes, one resistor, and one cap. Relays are not being touched. Should I replace them too? Has anyone had a problem with the relays?
Here's a picture of the fried resistors...
Also has anyone seen a C-11232 snubber WITHOUT a resistor? Here is a picture of a C-11232 snubber without the resistor. But if you look close, there are heat markers on the board like one was there. Very weird.
Any input?

There were C-11232-1 and C-11232-2 boards without resistors but all C-11232 boards should have a 150 ohm 1/2 watt (or larger if you are replacing them with modern) resistor.

I'm sure you stumbled on our snubber thread but here is a link just in case: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/f14-snubber-board-resistor-value#post-1338358

How are you getting 470 ohms from the bands on those resistors? The first band looks red to me (2) then maybe red, then burned... so 22 something, maybe 220 ohms? Did you try and measure those? Do you have any in better shape?

#90 6 years ago
Quoted from CaligoldBob:

Yes, I have been reading all snubber posts and it is a C-11232. I have two C-11232-1 with just a relay and a diode. Color bands on a non-burned resistor is yellow, violet, brown, gold. That means 470 ohms. This is why I have confusion. I followed the values posted on a picture in the snubber post.
One 150 ohm resistor, two 1N4004 diodes, and one 100u, 100v cap.

Ah, OK, the resistors you pictured didn't have only red, hence my confusion.

Looks like the capacitor is to limit charge or discharge current so I don't think it's value is absolutely critical. I'm sure either would function OK.

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