Yep. I guess that's what happens as pinball as a hobby gets more popular and as the entry fee goes up (pin prices escalating).

By the way, I like price cheerleaders better than the price police.

This thread pisses me off!

I agree with just about everything you state in your post. But, if we all settled our differences on the above items, we would find something new to argue about within 24 hours.

Tom

Yeah, I admit, I get too worked up when discussing things online. I gotta just spend more time playing pinball and working behind the scenes.

it has gotten a bit crazy as of late. we all need to remember what really matters,we all love pinball.
great thread btw.

I'm pretty new to the "scene" of pinball and I noticed a lot of the same. But it doesnt differ much from other online forums. Some people post things specifically to piss people off. Others get overly upset over that and its a snowball effect from there.

Relax! Play Pins! Drink Beer. Repeat.

Yep, it seems like a battle on every thread. I would never cause a thread to go sideways. We all know it's Obama's fault that we are all stressed out. That's just a fact. Get Romney or Ron Paul in office or put the Pope in charge and all of our pinball discussions will be happy again.

Sorry, I could not help myself...

like Rudy says: it's only pinball !

On the one hand yes, people are getting way too uptight and need to remember they are talking to other people who share the same basic interest. There seems to be a big lack of respect and basic courtesy lately.

On the other hand, it does show how passionate we all are about our hobby. We just need to remember to show it without letting our blood pressure go up!

Peace, love, and pinball.

What the f@ck do mean uptight!!!!

Some people seem to take it as a personal offense if someone disagrees with them. It seems particularly pronounced in this hobby. I find it really disconcerting and it's prompted me to not participate as much as I'd like and keep a lower profile.

I blame a lot of this on the media, which seems to be turning people against each other if they disagree on various subjects. People don't seem to debate any more. They just call each other names if they disagree.

Lol

For clarity, I don't think any of those things will be settled either. What I was trying to state was that this group will find something to argue (and get pissed off) about. Let's face it, we have a passionate hobby with differing opinions.

Just wait until I get my XMen LE Magneto NIB and then get to jump into every thread, and start a few of my own, telling everyone how frickin awesome it is, best pin ever, people come to my place and spit on my old machines as they line up to play it, rate it a 10+, rag on anyone who says differently and let them know they know nothing, then sell it 3 weeks later.

Did I get that right?

+1000

God forbid people disagree with something and simply have intelligent conversation about something.

@smokedog, you sir have a clear understanding of how this forum works. Bravo!!

I'm glad that I'm not the only one with that problem.

It seems to be human nature to always find something to argue about... Maybe it's there to help progress the development of the human race... Like ideally an argument will put peoples views across and that might bring to light the best way of doing something, and then things get improved... And the more people you have with their own opinions, the more fuel there is for disagreements and therefore arguments to arise... Let's face it, there are many facets to pinball, so many areas for disagreements too... I bet you don't get as many arguements in the world of, say, stamp collecting because there's not that much to disagree on...

Seems to be par for the course for any topic in today's world.

People in general have lost the ability to understand that just because I might disagree with you or have another opinion, it's not a statement that I think you are stupid. Unfortunately, this seems to be where everything, pinball or what not, is headed.

Natural Grass! / Artificial Turf!
Tastes Great! / Less Filling!

People have a tendency to get wound up about anything on which they disagree. Hopefully people can realize that disagreement does not have to escalate. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about any subject.

But yeah, it's surprising how nasty and personal some disagreements get. This seems to happen between otherwise reasonable prople.

So remember, don't post that nasty response. Just let it go.....
And play some pinball.

People are always belittling others its a E-Penis thing. Its sad because we do all share the same Hobby. Nothing is worse than saying well well well....hmpf Yo momma so fat...... What happens is people run out of a intelligent thing to say and resort to high school tactics. It happens allot and the Hobby has always been very clicky. Not just on the net but in person as well. God forbid i don't live in a 4 million dollar house and think MM is the shit you cant hang with me. I get that allot then i hear from a few of my nicer hobbyists friends i might live in a 4 million$ house but my shit still stinks.

There seems to be a line drawn in the sand on sections of this hobby.

How can you be uptight with that avatar pic.

Me too god dammit

It's those damn RGPer's coming over here to Pinside causing all the trouble.

Sonsabitches, every damn one of them.

Shazizzle.

Don't have to wait, "those fights" have been going here for months, just mention Woz and AC/DC in the same breath...oh and take cover!

Come over to RGP and say that to my face b****

And those AH's who live in the big houses. They're the worst!!

Kumbaya MOTHER FU*****!!!

Those fights coming up will be epic.

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Pinball... makes you insane.

As prices go up, folks will get more emotional. Now days to get a few A listers you need 15k + that just gets people a little edgy when they have that kind of cash wrapped up in something. Its the whole fear factor thing. You have a substantial portion of your personal saving tied up in these things and are ready to string up anyone that may say something that could effect their value.

Seriously true of any specialized interest forum I've ever been a part of, ever. And that's more than 3 of them.

IMO, if you have hostility towards someone because they disagree with you on something, that's a sign you're "in too deep". If you get upset that someone thinks your brand of tennis shoes suck, you're taking tennis shoes too seriously.

OH ill bet its just as bad. How bout how to mount the stamps. do you use a hinge or a full slide in wrapper? What is the proper humidity at which to keep a unused stamp? Whats the best way to remove a stamp from an envelope? Should you even remove a stamp from an envelope?
The surge in prices for black penny stamps is caused by noobs..

oh well, now ive done gone and pissed myself off

I sure do see a lot of posts that feed the fires. I wish more of us could resist the urge to call an ass an ass. It would be great if the personal attack posts just withered and died from neglect. Maybe unrealistic to hope for, but it would be cool.

LOL!

You don't use hemostats you use carbon fiber tweezers made in Germany.
What a moron!

Yes sir, Mr. Rose! wait....

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I think some people are. I and the crew I deal with personally are pretty laid back too. these are games. Big expensive and heavy, but games all the same. These guys that get all pissed over some perceived wrong and leave the forum in a huff are just being silly in my mind.

That's also a valid point!!

Most of you people wanna spend 10k plus on a wood box that 2 months ago was worth 2k and your really stumped as to why you have poor social behavior?

It is a wood box dood, with stickers. This is exactly why pinball enthusiast are stereotyped as the two guys from dumb and dumber on the moped.