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Arcade1UP Pinball - Star Wars Virtual pinball machine.


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    #151 88 days ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    I don't know if Zen would or not. That's not the point. I picked an easy censoring target, that's no less ridiculous than the things someone else said they HAVE censored. I'm not going to support a company that does that crap, so I can definitely say I'm out on all of the Arcade1UP 'pins' if the Williams one retains that.

    That is ridiculous. You are saying that the ONLY reason you won’t support them is because they’re careful not to jeopardize their ESRB rating, and risk getting their software pulled from kid-friendly consoles? But otherwise you were 100% on board....

    Don’t get me wrong, there’s lots of things in this world worth standing up for or against on principle but that’s a strange one to feel so strongly about

    #152 88 days ago
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    #153 88 days ago

    Thanks for the photos, they look pretty good. I'm interested to see how they play and at what price they come in at.

    #154 88 days ago

    If it’s as easy to jailbreak as their arcade machine, that thing will be awesome !

    #155 88 days ago

    Is it just the angle of the shot, or is the monitor the wrong shape for a DMD?

    #156 88 days ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    Is it just the angle of the shot, or is the monitor the wrong shape for a DMD?

    It’s a short rectangle thing, odd size yes

    #157 88 days ago
    Quoted from adol75:

    If it’s as easy to jailbreak as their arcade machine, that thing will be awesome !

    Can you do much after you jailbreak the arcade 1up's though? I didn't think you could add any additional games and thought it was really to just access the menu. I know most went the Raspberry PI or Pandora route instead of messing with the factory boards however I haven't been following the modding threads that much so I am sure things could have changed since I last read about them a few months ago.

    #158 87 days ago

    Now these ones actually feel like a pinball, I’m impressed.

    Pinball Arcade must be annoyed first zen takes there licence So they go and partner with a toy company, then zen go and partner with what appears to be a better company! Lol

    #159 87 days ago

    Is that white column the optional riser?

    #160 87 days ago
    Quoted from Palmer:

    Is that white column the optional riser?

    Lmfao

    #161 87 days ago

    This is fantastic news. This will 100% bring more people into the hobby and have a long term impact, similar to virtual pinball (which is what drew me back in).

    I have only seen one parallel like this brining young folks into a hobby traditionally occupied by adults. That was the summer of 2003 when Finding Nemo was released. The new blood and life it breathed into the aquarium trade cannot be understated. There were tons of new people that flocked into the hobby for their kids, and it turned out that kids parents enjoyed the hobby much more than their kids and many new reef tanks were sold. There were a lot of dead fish, but there was a huge spike in the industry in 2003/2004, and the tail from that boost lasted for year. I am expecting these 3/4 scale pins to drive demand for the real thing.

    Its just a hobby, but I enjoy it. The more people in it, the more options I have and the more potential buddies I make.

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    #162 87 days ago

    Not sure if this will be a type of gateway drug to get more people buying real pinball machines, but I can say for certain that I wouldn't be in this hobby without the Pinball Arcade iPad app.. So really if they can have a decent playing virtual pin for ~$500, I can't see why anyone would think thats a bad thing.

    #163 87 days ago
    Quoted from kermit24:

    Not sure if this will be a type of gateway drug to get more people buying real pinball machines, but I can say for certain that I wouldn't be in this hobby without the Pinball Arcade iPad app.. So really if they can have a decent playing virtual pin for ~$500, I can't see why anyone would think thats a bad thing.

    I agree and it looks pretty darn good as well so won’t be such a cheap looking eyesore amongst real machines/games.

    #164 87 days ago

    Is quite a big jump from a $500 toy to a $5000 real machine hehe

    #165 87 days ago
    Quoted from kermit24:

    Not sure if this will be a type of gateway drug to get more people buying real pinball machines, but I can say for certain that I wouldn't be in this hobby without the Pinball Arcade iPad app.. So really if they can have a decent playing virtual pin for ~$500, I can't see why anyone would think thats a bad thing.

    I'm sure it will be a gateway drug for some people, but not a massive boom. The Arcade1Up cabinets seem to be selling pretty well overall, anecdotally all of the people I know who have bought those just keep buying more instead of moving into collecting real arcade cabinets. For what it's worth I don't blame them, the 1Up cabinets are essentially plug and play with little to no maintenance.

    #166 87 days ago

    CES opens to the public today. Hopefully a pinsider or two can give some gameplay impressions.

    #167 87 days ago

    It puts the ripoff prices of NIBs nowadays into very, very sharp relief.

    #168 87 days ago

    Think of it this way. You could save $250 by buying one of these instead of a topper for your Stern Star Wars.

    #169 87 days ago

    These are interesting depending on how you can mod it. If it can be setup to play all fx3 games and maybe put a monitor in that backbox I'd be in...

    #170 87 days ago
    Quoted from russdx:

    Is quite a big jump from a $500 toy to a $5000 real machine hehe

    Except you can go from one of these to a used sub-$2000 pin. Plenty of great playing machines around or under that price point. So then it'd be less of a jump.

    #171 87 days ago

    More people getting into pinball doesn't mean they need to buy a machine. Growth could mean more people playing on location, increased attendance at shows, added players in tournaments, etc. So those saying that it is a big jump going to a real game need to remember that pinball growth came come in many ways.

    #172 87 days ago
    Quoted from Diospinball:

    Han shot first. On that I think we all can agree.

    Yes! But even more, in the original theatrical version Han was actually the ONLY one to shoot. He basically blew Greedo away before Greedo even had the chance to fire his blaster. Makes sense really, you don't stay alive in the kinds of places Han hangs out in, unless you're willing to be ruthless when forced to. Or unless you have Jedi powers!

    #173 87 days ago

    Im excited for these. I built myself a 32" playfield virtual cabinet a few years ago. It totally gave me the bug. I bought a South Park in 2018, and then 6 months later I bought a Simpsons Pinball Party.

    Virtual is a completely different experience, but having multiple games in a one cabinet is awesome. A plug and play solution like this should do well IMO. Im excited to hear more about the build quality and performance. Ill assume its better than my budget cabinet i built from old TVs and old PCs i had laying around. But really looking forward to seeing what people have to say and the price point.

    #174 87 days ago
    Quoted from russdx:

    Is quite a big jump from a $500 toy to a $5000 real machine hehe

    I don't think gateway pin means that they will immediately buy a NIB game or even buy a game. If anything it might draw up interest in the low end market, or at the very least drums up more support for games on route. Being "into pinball" doesn't always mean that you have to own a game.

    #175 87 days ago
    Quoted from mkecasey:

    More people getting into pinball doesn't mean they need to buy a machine. Growth could mean more people playing on location, increased attendance at shows, added players in tournaments, etc. So those saying that it is a big jump going to a real game need to remember that pinball growth came come in many ways.

    Quoted from fisherdaman:

    I don't think gateway pin means that they will immediately buy a NIB game or even buy a game. If anything it might draw up interest in the low end market, or at the very least drums up more support for games on route. Being "into pinball" doesn't always mean that you have to own a game.

    Remember where all the cheap dumped pins came from? Operators!!! More people dropping Coin in location games will bring more op games. That will eventually bring more used games to the market.

    #176 87 days ago
    Quoted from atrainn:

    The Arcade1Up cabinets seem to be selling pretty well overall, anecdotally all of the people I know who have bought those just keep buying more instead of moving into collecting real arcade cabinets.

    I own one and belong to the Facebook group and while they're not running out to buy a full size arcade machine they are modding the crap out of them with new control panels, backbox lighting and replace the crappy native board with Raspberry Pi's and such. I spent $100 for a new spinner when I bought the Arcade1up for $150. So there is a movement towards "better" after the initial purchase.

    I think is definitely going to drive people to real pinball. Heck, that's what got me into this hobby... I started with looking at shuffleboard for my rec room, stumbled across virtual pins and almost bought/built one. Then I played real pinball for the first time in many years and was hooked.

    #177 87 days ago
    Quoted from DugFreez:

    Seeing that they have a Universal themed cab and only 3 Universal themed games (as of now).....I suspect the Star Wars and Bally / Williams cabs may be limited to 3 games also (even though they have released more than that already). That would be a bummer.

    if you include the three Jurassic Park tables on Zen, wouldnt it be 6 Universal tables?

    #178 87 days ago

    and by the way, I'm one of those folks who got pulled into "real" pinball by way of building a VPX table using a full size Bally cab

    I'll be buying a real pinball machine this year (hopefully a Wedgehead)

    #179 87 days ago

    The size doesn't seem terrible. The guy standing to the side of it claims to be 6'2", and the guy playing is even taller.

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    #180 87 days ago

    Nice to see them recess the playfield screen to give it more depth feeling.

    #181 87 days ago
    Quoted from mkecasey:

    The size doesn't seem terrible. The guy standing to the side of it claims to be 6'2", and the guy playing is even taller.[quoted image]

    Nice! This is exactly what I wanted to see. Size/height comparisons!

    Sitting on a stool and pinball literally won't work....so this kinda needs to be closer to full scale.

    #182 87 days ago

    My screenshot came from this video

    #183 87 days ago
    Quoted from kermit24:

    Not sure if this will be a type of gateway drug to get more people buying real pinball machines, but I can say for certain that I wouldn't be in this hobby without the Pinball Arcade iPad app.. So really if they can have a decent playing virtual pin for ~$500, I can't see why anyone would think thats a bad thing.

    Same thing for me. I started playing Pinball Arcade 6 years ago, and it opened my eyes to the existence of rules and strategy and just how awesome pinball could be. There were zero locations to play at near my house at that time. Whenever we would go on vacation I would research the Pinside map and try to find some physical machines to play. The best was a trip to California, driving up the coast from LA to San Francisco. We must have hit 10 different locations in 1 week. I started searching Craigslist for used machines and jumped when one near me became available.

    If I had more room at home I would definitely own more than 1 pin.

    p.s. Free Gold Watch in San Francisco is the best!

    #184 87 days ago
    Quoted from mkecasey:

    My screenshot came from this video

    Looks pretty cool. The guy playing in the video said the haptic feedback is good, no delay. Price point of $450 - $650.

    #185 87 days ago
    Quoted from BoJo:

    Can you do much after you jailbreak the arcade 1up's though? I didn't think you could add any additional games and thought it was really to just access the menu. I know most went the Raspberry PI or Pandora route instead of messing with the factory boards however I haven't been following the modding threads that much so I am sure things could have changed since I last read about them a few months ago.

    The problem isn't about adding games, which is doable (it runs on Mame, Moo or Retroarch and can be replaced with an open version). The problem is the storage memory that’s only 100mb which is why running a Pi makes more sense.

    #186 87 days ago
    Quoted from mkecasey:

    My screenshot came from this video

    I really like the sit down Star Wars. Putting him on my shopping list !

    #187 87 days ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    Looks pretty cool. The guy playing in the video said the haptic feedback is good, no delay. Price point of $450 - $650.

    I hope the "DMD" screen is just proto...that aspect ratio squishing everything looks like shit.

    #188 87 days ago
    Quoted from mkecasey:

    My screenshot came from this video

    Thanks for posting that! The height definitely looks acceptable.

    Rep in the video said he couldn't give a price, ballpark from $450-650.

    6'2" rep hits him at the shoulder, so 59" also seems accurate!

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    #189 87 days ago
    Quoted from spaldingclan:

    if you include the three Jurassic Park tables on Zen, wouldnt it be 6 Universal tables?

    Yep...that's what I mentioned on a later post when I realized the Jurassic movies were Universal.

    #190 87 days ago

    Looks great! Will just come down to price, and if I can add more games.
    I'll put it in my bathroom.

    I think this will make a few people realize the REAL AFM etc are available new for sale right now and find a way to buy it. Big price jump but this can only be good for pinball.

    #191 87 days ago
    Quoted from okgrak:

    Think of it this way. You could save $250 by buying one of these instead of a topper for your Stern Star Wars.

    You could just put this on top of your Star Wars. Looks better

    #192 87 days ago
    Quoted from pinfarmer:

    Looks great! Will just come down to price, and if I can add more games.
    I'll put it in my bathroom.
    I think this will make a few people realize the REAL AFM etc are available new for sale right now and find a way to buy it. Big price jump but this can only be good for pinball.

    I do think these have a chance of getting people to buy real machines down the line. It's a little different from the arcade cabinets as I think the 1up arcade cabs are much closer to the real thing than virtual pinball is. Now, buying pinball machines is kind of crazy in general so I'm not sure how many will actually buy the real thing, but I'm pretty sure it won't be zero.

    #193 87 days ago
    Quoted from iloveplywood:

    I do think these have a chance of getting people to buy real machines down the line. It's a little different from the arcade cabinets as I think the 1up arcade cabs are much closer to the real thing than virtual pinball is. Now, buying pinball machines is kind of crazy in general so I'm not sure how many will actually buy the real thing, but I'm pretty sure it won't be zero.

    I have a co-worker that never even seen a pinball machine before. He only knew about pinball from what he played on his Apple tablet. He now owns 5 real pins. So I think this will get more into real pins. I am probably going to get one. Just not sure if I want first Gen or not. I have some 1up cabs and they have vastly improved from 1st gen cabs.

    #194 87 days ago
    Quoted from DugFreez:

    Yep...that's what I mentioned on a later post when I realized the Jurassic movies were Universal.

    The universal classics pack, moster pack, and jurrassic park that's 8 tables i think.

    #195 87 days ago

    The real question is...

    Can I mount a $750 Stern Star Wars Topper on this?

    #196 87 days ago
    Quoted from DakotaMike:

    Yes! But even more, in the original theatrical version Han was actually the ONLY one to shoot. He basically blew Greedo away before Greedo even had the chance to fire his blaster. Makes sense really, you don't stay alive in the kinds of places Han hangs out in, unless you're willing to be ruthless when forced to. Or unless you have Jedi powers!

    It was a classic western trope. And that is why it worked so well.
    No shame in shooting first if you setup that the baddie deserved it.

    Hell... The duke even offed a guy in at least one movie(possibly more), and they made a point to address that in the movie.
    That movie was El Dorado. And yes... There is some stuff that people would cringe at today, and call racist... And while the movie at times feels old and creaky(becasue the two male leads were past their prime), its still a good film.

    But, at the end of the film. The duke rolls up in a wagon and blasts the main thug(main hired hand) and before that guy dies, he says something to the effect you never gave me a chance. And the duke replies "No you were too dangerous to".

    So... No shame in shooting first. In my oppinion the alteration of that scene, really makes the first star wars so much worse. And each change they've done, made it worse and worse.
    I don't mind all the stupid additions. But, that one I hate. I hope they'll release a han shot first blu ray edition one day. I know it'll never happen.

    #197 87 days ago
    Quoted from Diospinball:

    It was a classic western trope. And that is why it worked so well.
    No shame in shooting first if you setup that the baddie deserved it.
    Hell... The duke even offed a guy in at least one movie(possibly more), and they made a point to address that in the movie.
    That movie was El Dorado. And yes... There is some stuff that people would cringe at today, and call racist... And while the movie at times feels old and creaky(becasue the two male leads were past their prime), its still a good film.
    But, at the end of the film. The duke rolls up in a wagon and blasts the main thug(main hired hand) and before that guy dies, he says something to the effect you never gave me a chance. And the duke replies "No you were too dangerous to".
    So... No shame in shooting first. In my oppinion the alteration of that scene, really makes the first star wars so much worse. And each change they've done, made it worse and worse.
    I don't mind all the stupid additions. But, that one I hate. I hope they'll release a han shot first blu ray edition one day. I know it'll never happen.

    I’m waiting for the Disney+ version Of El Dorado, where after John Wayne blast the thug and before he dies, the bad guy says “Macclunkey”

    #198 87 days ago

    Just watched the video.. he mentioned, good sound quality, liked the haptic feedback and the screen had good viewing angles. Williams will have 10 tables included. Will have an accelerometer for nudging. Looks like this is going to be a good toy.

    Wish list:
    - get a plunger on their (probably creates some packaging inefficiencies. (I guess given they picked AFM artwork you could argue not to have a plunger)

    - square off that head to be more Williams like. Not sure why they need to have rounded off on the back. (But maybe it keeps it

    Curious to see what it feels like to nudge. I can picture some of you guys slap saving this thing across a room.

    I may get one of these if they keep it sub 500. There normal cab is $299. Should be possible.

    #199 87 days ago

    NBA JAM live. sweet

    #200 87 days ago
    Quoted from ataritoday:

    Just watched the video.. he mentioned, good sound quality, liked the haptic feedback and the screen had good viewing angles. Williams will have 10 tables included. Will have an accelerometer for nudging. Looks like this is going to be a good toy.
    Wish list:
    - get a plunger on their (probably creates some packaging inefficiencies. (I guess given they picked AFM artwork you could argue not to have a plunger)
    - square off that head to be more Williams like. Not sure why they need to have rounded off on the back. (But maybe it keeps it
    Curious to see what it feels like to nudge. I can picture some of you guys slap saving this thing across a room.
    I may get one of these if they keep it sub 500. There normal cab is $299. Should be possible.

    No need for a plunger. Just make it AFM, MM and MB I'd buy that!!

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