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Apple Time: Thunder Man Info??? (Zaccaria/Unknown Hybrid)

By Gundam_Pilot_

8 years ago


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#1 8 years ago

Hello everyone. I acquired a very unique game from local Craigslist last night called "Thunder Man" by a company called Apple Time. I see that it is documented in IPDB database. It's clearly based after the movie escape from New York featuring Kurt Russell. The game seems to use generation 2 Zaccaria boards, but I have no clue what the assemblies / coils are. 'm guessing that the name of the company references the "Big Apple" due to the movie it's themed after. But of course that's just my speculation. I was wondering if anyone else owns one if these things? What does something like this command on the market?
I was wondering if anyone had any information in this game. Of if there's a backstory to this game. I attached a slew of pictures of this game.

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#2 8 years ago

Wow! That game looks amazing! How funny that the woman's face is totally cut into by the score! Love seeing unique stuff like this.

#3 8 years ago

Is that a foreign movie? I like the cellphone haha, good find.

#5 8 years ago

saw it and tried to buy it for the $300 asking price on Michigan c list. he spammed it in every city .i wanted it badly, not to flip, but to play and keep and use in tournaments for many to enjoy since its not common. i was willing to drive asap and responded 5 minutes after the ad came out but i didn't get a response until later and he said "someones coming today". guess that was you lol.

#6 8 years ago

No unfortunately it does not yet. He was stating that it had was blowing a fuse on startup. Off initial observation, it looks like the fuse holder was bad. There was also regular sized fuses in the mini fuse folder on the power board. The prongs on the holder were not even making contact with the contacts on the fuse. So with that being said, first thing i need to do is replace the fuse holder. And honestly, I may change all 4 while i'm at it. Once it is up, I will post a video and inform inquiring minds how it plays.

Quoted from silver_spinner:

saw it and tried to buy it for the $300 asking price on Michigan c list. he spammed it in every city .i wanted it badly, not to flip, but to play and keep and use in tournaments for many to enjoy since its not common. i was willing to drive asap and responded 5 minutes after the ad came out but i didn't get a response until later and he said "someones coming today". guess that was you lol.

Yah i texted him within minutes that night. He got back to me and we arranged for tuesday night. For the $300 price tag I couldnt let this one slip through my fingers. I know I would never see one again in my life. I guess hes had it for awhile, he was saying that it he picked it up at the michigan pinball show a long time ago. He got it through the door, and it stopped working after playing it for only 3 weeks. It will be staying for sure. I like some of the rarer stuff. Besides, it will look nice next to my farfalla since they are both Zaccaria cabs. I have already arranged with Dave Gersic to get scans of the owners manual I have, as well as dumping the roms that it has.

On another note, does anyone recognize any of the coils/assemblies? I am trying to figure out where they are from. I was thinking maybe Bell Games, or something odd. Its stuff I have never seen before.

#7 8 years ago
Quoted from Gundam_Pilot_:

does anyone recognize any of the coils/assemblies?

The pops and the flipper mechs are definitely Gottlieb. Can't tell 100% with the drops but they look Gottlieb to me as well. The IPDB entry mentions this with the coils bearing Zaccaria/Bell designations.

Nice score on a rare game! Glad you are dumping the ROMs. Good luck getting it up and running. Looking forward to seeing the gameplay video!

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#8 8 years ago

Yah I will start taking a look at it once I get my TAFG back together. I have it torn apart now doing a shop job. Besides It looks like I cant pick up the fuse holders anywhere locally, It will have to be online :/

#9 8 years ago

You know what's really bizarre? Those two individuals on the bottom left are from the movie Young Sherlock Holmes (kid you not!)

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#10 8 years ago

I would scan and then get plastic protectors on all those plastics before playing any games on it.

I've seen 2 of those games in my entire life, so I don't think you will ever get any game specific parts

You do have the manuals?

#11 8 years ago
Quoted from Gundam_Pilot_:

On another note, does anyone recognize any of the coils/assemblies? I am trying to figure out where they are from. I was thinking maybe Bell Games, or something odd. Its stuff I have never seen before.

http://www.pbresource.com/rebuildkit.html#KT-GFLIP03

#12 8 years ago
Quoted from Gundam_Pilot_:

I guess hes had it for awhile, he was saying that it he picked it up at the michigan pinball show a long time ago. He got it through the door, and it stopped working after playing it for only 3 weeks. It will be staying for sure.

Pretty sure this was at PATZ about 5-6 years ago. It was a Kirk Weaver import IIRC. I was sorta tempted to buy it then but had no transportation for it, and it didn't seem all that fun. Still a really cool find. I love the Appletime logo...

#13 8 years ago

The rollover switches are clearly zac, but it looks like some, but not all assemblies are gottlieb. And the coils are definitely not.

Quoted from metallik:

Pretty sure this was at PATZ about 5-6 years ago. It was a Kirk Weaver import IIRC. I was sorta tempted to buy it then but had no transportation for it, and it didn't seem all that fun. Still a really cool find. I love the Appletime logo...

Yah thats where the guy said he picked it up from. He said "awhile ago" so i was not sure on the time frame, but it would make sense. I am assuming it is the same game.

#14 8 years ago

Epic! Congrats!~SpOoKy

#15 8 years ago

He kind of looks like Ahhhnold Schwarzenegger too. This is a weird title, nice find.

#16 8 years ago

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#17 8 years ago

Greatest ink of all time

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#18 8 years ago

the graphic on the cabinet on mine is different... cabinet is black with the words 'out this game is it is thunder man'. crazy thing about this machine is it speaks in Italian.. that was a great find at a great price-- only the 2nd one that I am aware of.

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#19 8 years ago

Thunder Man is back, in Florida this time:

tallahassee.craigslist.org link

#20 8 years ago

Who would win in a fight between Lion Man and Thunder Man?

It's a trick question, they are the same. Thunder Man by day, Lion Man by night.

1 month later
#21 8 years ago

If anyone picked this up, please contact me. I really could use a copy of the game rom to get mine up and running

2 months later
#22 8 years ago

Bumping this again. Still looking for someone that has this game so I can get a rom copy! Ease contact me if you have one!

3 months later
#23 7 years ago

Bumping this again guys. Someone has to have this game!!!! I really need the rom to this so I can get my game running!

#24 7 years ago
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#27 7 years ago

I can't fool Pinside into uploading the ROMs .

PM me your email address....

#28 7 years ago

Looks like a false alarm. Roms look like my bad roms from Zaccaria-Pinball.com

Still on the hunt for these roms guys. Please help a fellow pinsider out!

#29 7 years ago

In Fact one just recently popped up on craigslist.

tallahassee.craigslist.org link

Someone go buy it and then get the roms dumped so I can get my game running

#30 7 years ago

According to the owners list, TKramer also has this game so maybe PM this user?

Rare games are fun and interesting but hard as hell to find anything when you need it. Good luck, hope you get it running!

#31 7 years ago

I have contacted him a couple times with no luck. According to the info pinside provides, he hasn't logged on since june of last year.

#32 7 years ago

I'm kind of surprised the rom from Dave Gersics site didn't work. Does it boot or you get nothing? According to the descriptions on his site it's very similar to the gen2 zac games with minor changes.
Maybe Dave can get the cpu to work or has some ideas?

#33 7 years ago

Looks like they ripped off the playfield layout from Gottlieb's "Bounty Hunter"

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#34 7 years ago

The roms that are from Dave Gersics website actually came from my game when I sent him in my boards to check out since they are zaccaria Gen 2 boards. He has tried looking into the rom code for repair, but the one IC for the game rom is just too far gone according to dave. Essentially any references on his site to thunder man came from me and my game. Which is why it sucks because since its such a rare game, it makes it extremely difficult to source that rom. When I do get the rom code we will make a new chip, then we will move forward and fix the boards so I can get the game running. Either way I need to find someone that owns the game, and is also willing to part with their CPU for a short period of time.

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#35 7 years ago

Bump this again here. Did anyone snag that thunder man in Florida???

tallahassee.craigslist.org link

If you or someone you know did in fact buy this game, please let me know!

#36 7 years ago

here is one on clist kinda near me. mobile.craigslist.org link

#37 7 years ago

Damn, that looks like fun. I love weird and unusual pins. Wish I were closer, I'd totally take one for the team.

#38 7 years ago

I love this weird stuff! Nice score, even non-working.

1 year later
#39 6 years ago

Hey guys I just wanted to update this. About a year ago I sourced the original rom code for this game from one of the original picture posters on IPDB.

This weekend I just fired this game up at and for the Cleveland Pinball and Arcade Show. This was the first time I have ever fired this thing up in the 4 years that I've owned it. I did a really quick shop job on it, and LED'd it. It held up at the show very well and is actually a very fun game.

I wanted to put out some really special thanks to Dave Gersic for working with me on getting the boardset working and burning the Roms for me.

I also want to put out a very special a Pete Deardoff. I know he will never see this shot out since he's not a pinsider. But without that guy having a copy of the original rom, I would have never been able to source it.

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#40 6 years ago

awesome find. I'd buy one if I saw it. Be careful tho. The boards may look like gen 2 boards, but they are not 100% compatible. They have slight changes to them than original gen 2's. Dave found this out recently working on one.

#41 6 years ago

Wow congrats!'!! That is so exciting. I have never seen a thunderMan ON. So cool!!! Nice of you to share the game at the show too for others to enjoy.

#42 6 years ago

I have a working version of this game. People have been playing it at the Ann Arbor pinball show. It talks in italian and I wish you could hear it in English.

#43 6 years ago

yeah I tried sourcing roms from apple time. The company still exists. But I always seem to get no response.

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#44 73 days ago

It's been 6 years since this thread has been active.
I'm here today to tell you all that another Thunder Man has now surfaced down under in Australia, with me!

I reached out to a few of you a couple of weeks ago privately asking a few questions about the machine, Thank you all for your responses.

I decided to go ahead and buy Thunder Man, despite the fact that I know it's going to be a huge undertaking to get this into a working pinball machine again.
So, here's the details so far....

I purchased a fully populated playfield and backglass, I have no other parts at this stage, but I have a reliable contact in Italy who has already told me he can get all the boards made up. I trust him as I have used him before for another rare machine I own (Nuova Bell Games: Cobra). This is only a small portion of the battle, as I'm aware ill need to either find a donor Zaccaria cabinet and back-box, or worst-case scenario build one for myself. The guy that sold me Thunder Man says he may have a cabinet I can purchase shortly (I'm dealing with an importer of Pinball machines).
We then have the wiring! fortunately, I've had some practice in this area, as my Cobra came to me with all the wires cut and I needed to piece it all back together, it's a difficult task but with the schematics and the right photos from other Thunder Man owners it's not impossible.

I'm excited to have another rare title in my collection, I am aware that rare does not equal $$$ and to be honest that's not why I purchased Thunder Man or Cobra for that matter. I do like a challenge and a good project, plus I like the subject matter of the machines.

Ill add some photos that were taken by the seller, i expect to pick up Thunder Man from the delivery depot sometime this week.

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#45 73 days ago


Welcome to the club! There's only four of us, as far as I know. LMK when you need some pics.

Does your guy in Italy have a source for English speech ROMS? I have the Italian ROMS and it's a man and a woman yelling at you.

#46 72 days ago

Thanks Alan_L!
I will certainly ask him if he has a source for English speech ROMS as I too would like to get my hands on this if it exists.
Regarding the pictures, anything you can grab a photo of for me would be very useful. I don't think I'll get to Thunder Man until mid-next year as I have my hands full with Cobra so plenty of time for you to take whatever pictures you can and send them across at your leisure.

In the meantime, I wonder if I can ask if anyone has the dimensions of the cabinet for Thunder Man, id imagine it's the same as a Gen 2 Zaccaria cabinet?

Reason why I'm asking is because I'd like to get started on creating the cabinet graphics, haven't quite decided what that would look like yet.
I've seen the Appletime cabinet, I've seen the all black cabinet with the Thunder Man text, I'm not certain on which was original to the game.
I'd also like to get creative and maybe mockup my own design, but I really am torn because keeping it original is always best (I think), but I'm not overly impressed with the cabinet design, especially when you compare it to the playfield art which is awesome! Feel free to share your thoughts on this.

#47 69 days ago
Quoted from dvs626:

Thanks Alan_L!
I will certainly ask him if he has a source for English speech ROMS as I too would like to get my hands on this if it exists.
Regarding the pictures, anything you can grab a photo of for me would be very useful. I don't think I'll get to Thunder Man until mid-next year as I have my hands full with Cobra so plenty of time for you to take whatever pictures you can and send them across at your leisure.
In the meantime, I wonder if I can ask if anyone has the dimensions of the cabinet for Thunder Man, id imagine it's the same as a Gen 2 Zaccaria cabinet?
Reason why I'm asking is because I'd like to get started on creating the cabinet graphics, haven't quite decided what that would look like yet.
I've seen the Appletime cabinet, I've seen the all black cabinet with the Thunder Man text, I'm not certain on which was original to the game.
I'd also like to get creative and maybe mockup my own design, but I really am torn because keeping it original is always best (I think), but I'm not overly impressed with the cabinet design, especially when you compare it to the playfield art which is awesome! Feel free to share your thoughts on this.

I was the one that submitted pictures of the one on IPDB. I would say mine is probably factory. The artwork is applied through screening/spray, and is not a decal. The art looks like its not added after, and the base paint really only shows that it is original, and not a paint over.

The all black example seems like someone printed a decal and slapped it over the black, but I could be wrong. If I owned something with no art, and was willing to do the work, I mean.............. I love keeping my games close to original, but man you're not wrong about the artwork being lack-luster

And yes the cabinet for sure is Gen2 Zac

#48 68 days ago
Quoted from Gundam_Pilot_:

The all black example seems like someone printed a decal and slapped it over the black, but I could be wrong.

Brian, no, you're not wrong. The black cabinet and head machine that has the Thunder Man decal is mine. Pete Deardorff painted it black and had the decals made in order to "jazz it up". He then sold it to a guy in Florida who sold it to me.

I know we talked about stripping the paint off and getting back to the original finish when you were here a couple of years ago, but I think that is a little beyond my capabilities and I'm going to pay someone to do it.

#49 62 days ago

I've been messing around with some designs for the Thunder Man cabinet (When I actually obtain a cabinet)
What do you guys think?

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#50 61 days ago

I like it
Painted or stickers?

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