They won’t release a classic if you ask me…

I doubt we will get any info on that soon unless the initial purchases of LE and Deluxes comes in under expectations.

It may never come out … you could easily take the price of the deluxe and subtract the items to make it a classic.

It would be near Stern pro pricing not much below - maybe $100-200 difference.

If sales slow over time then you would see a classic…

It will be in the market at market prices.

I personally think this game will be their best selling game by a mile. But what do I know…

I agree the Deluxe is a good deal for what you get and the small discount over what the Classic would be..

Pricing will take a while…

To get back to the game - the tank cab was amazing in person...

But, the subtle touches to the Deluxe version should not be understated...the little green light onthe back panel giving the appearance of an old school instrument panel was a beatuiful touch, the raised pinstadium lights elevated onthe side so you do not have to remove them to light the playfield were amazing. I do not recall art blaes or mirrors or if it was empty on the side were all great. The game to me played better then previous American Pinball games but I always thought Hot Wheels was well built moderately fun just not a theme I needed to own.

This game is fun, is it the best game ever, or is Pulp Fiction or Foo Fighters - new things come along and people will rave that the next thing is the greatest. I really liked all of them GTF, FF, and PF - two of these games you can get. All the people drewling over PF the shine will wear off if they have to wait 6 months, it still will be a great game if you ask me, but the wait kills enthusiasm for any game. CGC has not been the best delivering on time, so PF is a long way out.

Compare what you can play now, put your money where you want. Like what you want. Its a toy...its a game...like most of us nothing is ever bolted to the floor, play it elsewhere try it...if you like it buy it. I don't think you will be waiting 6 months for it....

It is a game if it comes up used I would cetainly buy one if it was available. I have had lots of great games, they come, they go. I would like to own this some day. Foo Fighters too, even Pulp Fiction but I bet of the 3 games I just named PF would stay inthe collection the shortest time. But, I think PF will be a collectors type pin.

Congrats on winning the project pinball machine - good for you!

Crazy you want to trade it right away....

Maybe after this game is built in numbers someone will get sick of it and pursue another Nordman classic like my Stern Pirates and I can do a trade.

I played GTF and liked it. I would keep my eye out for a Deluxe...

Congrats on the big win - you must be stoked, you will get to trade that for something so that is free money towards a wish list game. Like Sorokyl said above your post getting a machine you know you will like is a priority, no one has unlimited space. Foo Fighters shoots well and has great art I would love to own that, Pulp Fiction is cool but is probably 6 months to a year off. So...lots of cool stuff out there....free money to you.

If I had something you wanted and we were not on opposite coasts I would trade....the tank skin is a novelty but it would be cool in the right game room.

I am jealous....

Wow - do you even have a game? Even if you do have one - I doubt they will leave ya hanging. There are hardly any of the machines out there in the world and a few of them have issues, not a first for pinball.

I doubt by the time this game actually becomes available 1/4 or even 1/8 or 1/32nd of the people who read this forum post will buy one. I think I would wait until more copies are out there not 2-3 people saying a game bricked. Maybe how AP responds or resolves it will show how they will handle this whole game.

Not everything in this world is an immediate fix. Not all pins are good for all people. Have you tried to get anything done lately anywhere... tons of things are still slow to respond, delayed, supply chain issues, hard to stay worked up about everything all the time. Easier to expect that in a post covid world no one responds like they used to.

AP is not Stern. If you want Stern production and Stern level communication, buy a Stern. There are some great games out now, Foo Fighters is amazing.

So true..

I just cannot count the ways in what three years later after COVID that I face delays or get non responses from all kinds of vendors including ones I have done business with for years. Why should pinball be different? Like you said immediate gratification or torch it…

I guess I have just been beaten down by every company having issues these days making me understanding of issues and time to address it. I guess becoming more patient as a person is a good thing?

GTF may have issues, I played it, still looks good visually, it interests me… games come and go… I read the forum. Maybe someday they will have tweaks to it and I may be a buyer. Heck, I have bought, sold, traded many games I thought I would like - it just a hobby. Doing trades and pursuing games is part of the fun of it all.