Duplicate.

Maybe. Just maybe.

When they actually reveal the entire game tomorrow, some of you drama queens and whiners will finally stfu.

I doubt it though.

I want more cheesy acting in the game. It’s a different approach.

We will all be able to revel in a listen to our favorites PF quotes when the is finally delivered in 18 months or so. Can’t wait to play that kick ass alphanumeric. Plenty of games to play until then. Just hope I don’t die while waiting for my CCRLE and this one

This game looks like a F ing “flow monster, combo shooting machine”. Ha

I’m in for a GTF. And this is another post justifying my purchase.

If you are dropping a deuce on this game to make yourself feel better about your own choices then.

Uff. My mistake.

Oh. Well, to be honest, I've seen only the official "trailer," not the teasers. Again: my mistake.

Apparently! (Much to my chagrin.)

Great.

I hope you are right...

No question at all. Of all the new releases, this has the strongest B/W's vibe for sure...

LOL. I don't think you need to... If you are right, and the game is a hit, you are good to go and get to say "I told you so..." If you are wrong, AP may not survive, and you will have a valuable collectible as AP's last game. I personally hope you're right. But either way, I think you've made a safe bet...

FF is a decent game, it may be one of those where the gameplay and toys ultimately overshadow the Foo Fighters theme. Personally, I can't seem to connect with the street art and comic aesthetics, and the FF vibe. In my opinion, punk and grunge tends to be more of a "bummer" than a "baller" sound. However, I do have a soft spot for the Bavarian beats in Oktoberfest - hence, my taste may be a little unconventional. I want to stress that I'm not trying to bash Stern; while they may been seen as overpriced cookie cutters, I truly enjoy several of their titles, including Ghostbusters, Monopoly, and others. When it comes to GTF, we'll just have to wait and see. Given the high standards set by PF, GF, and FF, there's no room for subpar execution.

The demise of AP seems greatly exaggerated. Really some idiotic wild speculation for some of the hyperventilators that are spazzing out.

Same thing we have been hearing re JJP since Hobbit

Who has access to their financials?

Anyhoo. I just want the game because I like what i see already and the rest is gravy.

Then again, I liked Oktoberfest AND I paid $6k for some wood and a random smattering of parts glued to the wood

AP is definitely more of a Cinderella story in the pinball world, and I have a soft spot for underdogs. Despite facing significant challenges in the industry, AP has managed to produce some impressive machines that have earned them a dedicated following. As a fan of their work, I'm excited to see GTF and what they'll come up with next and hope they continue to succeed against the odds.

Curious how long did it take AP to make all 500 LOV?
Seems they take a bit to produce games as well.
Can’t wait to play one tomorrow.

There is literally nothing in FF. Artwork covers it up.

It’s AS 2.0. If you like the band I’m sure it’s great. Good for everybody that got one.

But it’s the same old shit for me and I like AS better.

Even still, I won’t be dropping deuces all over the FF hype thread! Because I could care less

At least paint them!! Assuming you aren't gonna ship them like this(they paint their toys on other pins), why oh why would you not spend an hour or two painting the toys on the one machine you are sending the YouTube guy to show the world??

Even if the machine looks and plays great...I just don't know if I want a machine made by the same people that could botch so many things

I’m not sure because I didn’t get one of those Vino but I know for damn sure how long I’ve been waiting on CCRLE

And so does everybody else

CGC is infamous now.

Maybe they were able to source those alphanumeric display much quicker!

AP says 4-6 weeks

I don’t think this is the demise of AP, but I’m getting serious Dewey Cox “black sheep” vibes. I’m wondering if letting Nordman build his space-tank game unrestricted from the binds of logic and reason was a way to nail him down for Whitewater 2.

But if it features a live action dude in a yeti suit…

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That would actually be hilarious...

Really even if it looks and plays great two key components of pinball you don’t know? Tough crowd

This post didnt age well.
Or no?

Come on dude. Wtf. Botching pinball is par for the course. Who doesn’t? Seriously

Check out just about every other pin thread

I can't fault anyone who wants this, if it blows yer pleated skirt up like ol' bandy legs. But I think I will be just fine playing this at YOUR house after you bring it home, or on site because, ooff! Proffesor Bumblefuck and his giggly sprinkles would have me piercing my own eardrums. But maybe and preferably piercing just the cones on the cabinet speakers if the coin door is locked and I can't just turn the volume down.

There's camp and then there is schlock. I love camp, my MB falls in the campy arena, AFM, RFM, BBB, Eatpm, SS, EHoH, hell even Fish Tales is a campy finger poke at anglers. WN:BJM is retro pinball campy schlock, which didnt sell well. NGG is super golf campy, so is Tee'd Off. Camp is all over pinball and when it lands it is pure comedic gold.

That trailer landed with the sound of 2 tons of pure lead poisoning, and as some have noted with less production values than a high school sketch act for the yearly senior talent contest, with Prof Giggly Bumblefuck played by the Senior principle.

People will buy this, and even like it, but I just hope this isnt like TS4 part II to use a JJP reference in a AP thread.

I’m in too.

Big difference between campy and cringe.

If I was AP I would get a video of gameplay out using the base model with the black trims and gear it towards the playfield and gameplay. Talk tank and animation videos later. The way the game plays is most important.

Fiannlly received my ccrle last week after a 15 month wait......I will say I'm very impressed with its quality and all the nice extra touches they added especially for the price point these day's....absolutely beautifully overbuilt behemoth particularly the topper. Was worth the wait so just hang in there old buddy as they really seem to b building them fairly quickly now.

I get what people are saying. It may not make it blockbuster, but it would be like turning off the the settings on your tv that lead to the 'soap opera effect'. It just makes it appear better.

Anyone know if this will be at Midwest Gaming Classic next week?

Am I the only one that thinks a bunch of salaried workers at a manufacturing company putting their signatures on the apron is super egotistical?

I think that about all the manufacturers that do that. It's so weird to me.

I love American Pinball games. I am in on GTF because of my experiences with their other pins and customer service. To me it feels like they really care about the people who play pinball. I constantly see employees from AP on pinside like Rosh and others always helping (Rosh isn't even there anymore and is still here, helping others, thank you so much btw.) One time I commented about my Oktoberfest having issues here on pinside and a few hours later AP called me on the phone to assist me. What company does that?!

I also love AP games for their code. Houdini and Oktoberfest have some of the best coding I have ever played on a pinball machine. Every mode is unique, fun, and tells a story. You can tell by the intricacies of the coding that there was a lot of time and love into them. I have played those games a thousand times and they still evoke a fist pump out of me every time I play.

So I am not worried about the cringy, campy, 3D printed, fmv, tank folding, giggling sprinkles that others are complaining about. I know when I open the box for my new American Pinball machine, I will be getting a fun to play, well built, well coded, and well supported pinball machine that i will cherish for a long time.

I can't wait!

@zablon, it’s my understanding that GTF will be at MGC next weekend. One of the main reasons I’m going!

I think only about 3 people here are hating on the game. The rest are hating on the presentation and cringy video.

When there is silence in the pinball world, we all feel we must fill the void while we opine like desperate wolves looking for prey.

Hopefully, we will se some good gameplay video so we can put the other garbage in the rear view mirror.

I will say, as stupid as that tank cabinet looks, the lower-end models do look stunning. Hopefully it is a FUN shooter!

If you watch the recent AP behind the scenes video with David Fix you can see they have a 3D printing farm to make game parts. And Oktoberfest toys were switched to 3D prints at some point. Extremely unlikely it’s changing for GTF at this point.

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Zablon badfish981 See you guys there!

If AP took the time to get games to Texas,
Then count on Midwest Game Classic.
It would be foolish not to....

Never been before so just asking.

Was that the wonderful Tim Curry in the trailer? haha

Isn’t there an old saying that bad publicity is good publicity? Maybe we have all been had by Fix. Ha! I wish one of these companies would engage Kaneda and let him do a launch. That would be entertaining.

+1

Says the man who sells his flipper cooling system with parts made with a 3d printer and other stuff too. Charges way too much. How about selling your bracketes for $5 each and people who are tech savvy like me can install our own fans?

That was from a different game, totally not related to or included in GTF

Sorry if I came across a bit rough.

The REAL travesty is that Hilton is not in this thread, defending every one of APs moves and declaring it all part of a 5D chess masterplan. One that we, per usual, are plain too dumb to understand.

The magical days of this forum, I miss them more than fair pricing

Awww. What machine is Tim Curry involved with? I must know more....

Any publicity is good publicity.

But that saying is usually applied when something unforeseen or negative happens and thrusts the business into the public eye.

This rollout was intentional, and hopefully, unintentionally lacking.

As that overview video was taken down, I can't recall everything it showed - but I thought the 3d printed parts had LEDs inside them which may have made them glow etc.
Again I could be wrong, but maybe that's why they look kind of dull.

Does the value of Fix's signature on the apron go up or down once AP fires him?

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IDK but if Josh had something to do with code and art direction and isn’t credited that’s kind of low.

You make a crowd of one.

What is up with the ice cream cone?

He is still here...he was being his usual contrarian self downvoting posts the other day.

Who else should've had their signature there?