But I want the motorized cabinet head that will go up and down and a turret that will rotate and fire in the *vertical position* for some reason.
Also, I'm rethinking the tank tread sides for guests that want to sleep it off under my machines. Cozy!

Edit!

Waiting and watching.......

Looks fantastic!

I just wish the gal's right leg didn't look like a wobbly hotdog....

Now we have Ice Cream AND Hot Dogs - Americana at it's fineist!!

The artwork and playfield look really good on this! Seriously impressive!

I usually am for a licensed theme, but after seeing the freedom and creativity that an unlicensed theme like this allows the designers, I totally get it.

Timing on AP’s part is off though and if the release would have been a month or so earlier they would’ve crushed sales.
If it’s available soon, I still think they’ll suck up some of the competition’s business. Besides, who wants to wait until 2024-2025 for a PF?

Nice job on this pin AP!

F ing funny. Well played Sir.

WODKA where did you get that picture showing the piano hinge? Would like to look at more like that if I could.

Has anyone ever seen a piano hinge (continuous hinge) on a backbox before? If so what game?

Something is odd about that. Makes me think there is some secret like the deeproot lifting playfield glass. Looking at some pictures of the side rails near the flipper buttons they don't look like they are flush up against the cabinet art. Almost like they are meant to be liftable or something.

Piano hinge will make for a very tough game to transport for many of us. My hatchback just barely has the headroom for a WPC/Stern. If you don't know why the hinge makes a difference, think about which part of the cabinet the head typically rests on.

Not to mention the turret, but I assume that's easily removable.

That is a good point you bring up. Having the head farther back may pose an issue with clearance with tighter spots than a traditional pivoting hinge. However, it appears the head on the GTF is tapered more than your average pin. So maybe the took that in consideration and tried to follow the same overall footprint.

I thought I would finally check in here, been immersed in all the other new release threads.

I have one question, and I am being serious. Is that tank for real or is it some kind of joke?

Oh it’s real.

GTB System 3s and Willams System 11s both used piano type hinges but not full length like that.

The bottom of the head does look narrower than a standard bally/williams head.

The turret, however, looks like it may be bolted on.

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Dennis has had this tank design in his head for many years.

He approached Spooky Pinball years ago about doing something. I remember seeing a prototype cabinet there years ago wondering WFT is that!

Minus the tracks and other LE stuff, the game looks interesting.

The limited version with the tank stuff is not for people with any kind of space concerns. Got a collection with games all side by side? Narrow doorways? Smaller vehicle? Don't buy it.

Honestly I dunno who it's for. I know Dennis thinks it's the funniest idea ever, but it's the least interesting thing about the game. Novelty game collectors maybe.

Luckily the normal version without it exists, and for less money.

Oh it’s real… and it’s SPECTACULAR!

Yes but does it roll and actually shoot? No? Insiders in this thread please chime in.

Christ on a cracker. I’m having fun in this thread. Worth the price of admission.

we had this in our pole barn arcade while dennis nordman and paul reno worked on it..no one knew it was another pinball machine for 2 months as we did not flip the top for people to see the playfield.we kept it in line on the end of first row coming in..it always drew a crowd wondering were we got as it looks like part of our display of weird stuff..im thinkin thats part of the point of this to have a pinball machine that will be more than just another game in line..looked fantastic in our place,easy to flip open and close..more than a few veterans of pinside saw this game and gave dennis and paul imput on this.happy to see them finish this project and wish both paul and dennis congrats..i would not order till i played any new game from anybody..

Wise words but not the ones wanting to hear from someone who had physical possession for 2 months…

I have a feeling if they only sell 50-100 LEs they won't be too upset about it. It's cool to see something new and refreshing. glad they're giving the 2.7% of people who have the perfect spot for that.

The rest of you guys can probably lay off the "I WOULDN'T BUY THAT". the deed is done and no one is trying to force you into it buying it

The hinge thing is weird. Maybe its completely different on the SE. But they probably aren't too woried about folded dimensions, since they are selling it in a box on a palate. loading the used game into a car is more a problem for the secondary market. Maybe it will influence some peoples NIB purchase but probably not many

we had it more than 2 months..we did not flip the top the first 2 months

Even the regular version most likely won't fit in my vehicle. I have less than an inch of clearance above a typical modern game. Strange Science (piano hinge) wouldn't fit. This looks like it won't either.

Cool story!

Sounds like you'll have to borrow a pickup to move this one! Hard for me to sympathize though, my Subaru Outback rear hatch is 1/2" too short to take a modern game with the head on. Whoops.

You keep a Sinbad back there 24/7/365 so it really doesn't matter...

It is for me, I would love to own the "Tank" version.

Yeah, I got a guy. Unless this plays radically different from every AP game to date I won't be in the market anyway. Just puttin' it out there for those of us still rocking a Honda Fit in a F-150 world.

I want to say, like many do regarding mods, etc. If you can afford a 10k pinball machine what's another 5k to buy a trailer to haul it

It does play radically different than all prior AP releases.

Rent a truck for $20.

I don't know why it wouldn't - completely different playfield designer who's known to do some unconventional stuff.

*plus mileage.

Unlimited mileage.

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Does anyone know how much it is to rent one of these incase I decide to buy the Limited Deluxe version?

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you should have ordered the general george patton edtion

I am hoping to order the 1 of 1 Douglas MacArthur edition.

"There is no security on this earth. Only opportunity."

I want to see you go rent that truck from HD, drive to where a game is, load game, drive to destination, unload game, then drive back to HD in 75 minutes or less...GO!

Irrelevant detail but seriously thank you for sharing your opinion.

Rent a Pacifica from Enterprise. $45.00 +tax per day -unlimited miles (...if you are having your vehicle serviced at a local dealership. {They don't verify})

I dont need to, I already own a truck. Also, spend another 5 bucks for a few hours. Done.

So this is the first generation of electric tanks?

The tank with all of its accoutrements, could turn out to be a surprise SLE version at the show. Maybe limit those to 75 or so and then have the usual run of 500 or 600 LE's, then the standards.

That might explain why we're waiting on information and they are last to show.

That's my hope. A full version without Full Tank sides.

I hope so, because if it (the tank cabinet) ends up being the most interesting thing about the game, then they have a huge issue

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Yep, as someone who's basement takes a lot of no-room-to-spare maneuvering to get pins in and out and has sections where backboxes have 1/2" room between them, I had the same thought about 2 seconds after seeing the first images. It would be helpful if not crucial that AP provides measurements on their site when they're ready to start accepting pre-orders.

Stuck in traffic behind the American Pinball delivery guy.

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WHERE is the gameplay video I want it NOW

Practically speaking, a motorised head/backbox is just going to cause extra problems long term so probably a good thing they aren't doing that and yes it would just be a silly cabinet gimmick, not the actual game. But come on guys - if they did show a video of the machine literally transforming itself from a tank into a pinball - I think my inner-child would be doing somersaults.