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Anypin Medieval Madness

By oscarspa

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

Hi, I am installing anypin to avoid more disasters with the battery, I wanted to know if the position of the picture is good to install ?, greetings

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#2 9 years ago

Yup. You have it right.
Be careful with the traces. They are delicate.
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#3 9 years ago

It's a good idea to put a label over the clear window on the EPROM.

#4 9 years ago

I use electrical tape.

Quoted from terryb:

It's a good idea to put a label over the clear window on the EPROM.

#5 9 years ago

Hi, I have finished the work, can i cut the pins of the middle row not to make electrical contact ?. Installation is correct

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#6 9 years ago

I wouldn't. Cutting the middle pins will keep it from working as a 'universal' anypin anymore. You can buy the 6116/6264 anypin for less than the 'universal' anypin. If you get a game that needs a 5101 and you want to use an anypin, you could move this one to it and buy the cheaper one for your MM.

#7 9 years ago
Quoted from johnwartjr:

I wouldn't. Cutting the middle pins will keep it from working as a 'universal' anypin anymore. You can buy the 6116/6264 anypin for less than the 'universal' anypin. If you get a game that needs a 5101 and you want to use an anypin, you could move this one to it and buy the cheaper one for your MM.

So, to add to John's suggestion, you could get a 24 pin machine pin socket and use it as a "riser". Two SIPs will work too.
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#8 9 years ago

Whoops. I literally JUST NOW installed two of these.

Those center pins aren't long enough to impact the MPU board. Good design on Rob's part.
Just insert the NVRAM assembly into the SIPs. You should be good go to.

For future reference, you should put the SIPs on the NVRAM, and then solder the assembled pieces onto the board. This guarantees that the SIP sockets line up with the NVRAM assembly pins.
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#9 9 years ago
Quoted from terryb:

It's a good idea to put a label over the clear window on the EPROM.

Why do you cover the window on the chip?

#10 9 years ago

UV light erases eproms. Over time, it's possible some light could get through the window and erase it.

Not saying I've ever *seen* that, but it may be possible, theoretically

#11 9 years ago
Quoted from HighSpeed1:

Why do you cover the window on the chip?

Because sunlight can erase the EPROM if the window is open.

#12 9 years ago

Ahh, I never knew that. So why is there even a window on the chip? Was the technology something to marvel at back then? Did they not know this at the time, or just figure they would put the ROM sticker over the window anyway?

#13 9 years ago

The window was put there by design because its rewritable. Expose it to uv light to erase it and then place new rom info on it

Quoted from HighSpeed1:Ahh, I never knew that. So why is there even a window on the chip? Was the technology something to marvel at back then? Did they not know this at the time, or just figure they would put the ROM sticker over the window anyway?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPROM

#14 9 years ago
Quoted from HighSpeed1:

Ahh, I never knew that. So why is there even a window on the chip? Was the technology something to marvel at back then? Did they not know this at the time, or just figure they would put the ROM sticker over the window anyway?

Because you can run them under a uv light to erase the data and then reuse the chip.

#15 9 years ago
Quoted from Jdawg4422:

Because sunlight can erase the EPROM if the window is open.

And over time, light from fluorescent tubes (even to so claimed "no UV" ones) could also inflict damage to the data in it.

#16 9 years ago

And while it's extremely unlikely that the whole EPROM will be erased...all it takes is one bit to flip, and the ROM will fail checksum. Then you're done.

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