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Anyone with an Escalara in South Jersey?

By phillyfan64

6 months ago


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    #1 6 months ago

    Anyone in South Jersey with an Escalara want to make some money this weekend? I need to move my Space Invaders arcade machine to my basement? I just got my gameroom done. We moved all the pinball machines but no go on the Space Invaders. It’s just too heavy. The machine is sitting in my dining room. About 12 newly carpeted steps with a small landing and a turn at the bottom. I’ll rent or buy an appliance dolly but I just have no experience moving something this heavy. I think an Escalara would be a better option. I don’t want to wreck it. Thanks.

    #2 6 months ago

    My bad.

    #3 6 months ago

    Someone should chime in with an Escalera. If I was there I’d help. But I’m too far away.

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    #4 6 months ago

    beelzeboob in your area ?

    Last time he loaned one was quite exciting.

    LTG : )

    #5 6 months ago

    I don’t know if he is. I’m in Williamstown near Geets Diner.

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    #6 6 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    beelzeboob in your area ?
    Last time he loaned one was quite exciting.
    LTG : )

    I'm not. I'm in North Jersey, and quite frankly after the last experience I had (and getting lectured by Crazy Levi), my new Escalera is under lock and key.

    #7 6 months ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    I'm not. I'm in North Jersey, and quite frankly after the last experience I had (and getting lectured by Crazy Levi), my new Escalera is under lock and key.

    They don’t call him crazy for nothing

    #8 6 months ago
    Quoted from titanpenguin:

    They don’t call him crazy for nothing

    Well...he inferred that, in fact, I was the one that was crazy for lending it out and what did I expect. So maybe he should be called Selfish Levi.

    Anyway, I hope this guy finds someone closer to home.

    #9 6 months ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    my new Escalera is under lock and key.

    Your old one is going strong

    #10 6 months ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    Well...he inferred that, in fact, I was the one that was crazy for lending it out and what did I expect. So maybe he should be called Selfish Levi.
    Anyway, I hope this guy finds someone closer to home.

    Well he is (redacted).

    #11 6 months ago

    How aboot someone with a Lectro-Truck? At 2,550 miles I'm too far away these days....

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    #12 6 months ago

    Call the Gameseum and ask for Steven/otaku. http://thegameseum.com/

    Just kidding!
    #paytheboob

    #13 6 months ago
    Quoted from phillyfan64:

    I don’t know if he is. I’m in Williamstown near Geets Diner.

    That’s my neck of the woods! Only 15 mins away. I’m out of town this weekend for a wedding, but I’d be glad to help you out if I can.

    #14 6 months ago

    If it’s just one game and not gonna be moved anytime soon then no need for an escalara.

    Disconnect everything in the head and remove the head. Move the head to the basement…..pull the entire playfield out of the cabinet and set it aside. Then move the empty cabinet and set it up in the basement. Carefully move the playfield to the basement and put it back in the cabinet. Attach the head and connectors. Double check all connections and it’s done.

    This is a pain IF you had to move games up/down stairs often but if it’s just every once in a while a good option instead if you don’t have access to an escalara.

    I have only had to do this twice..once when I was pretty new in the hobby and my friend didn’t feel like wrestling with a game down some stairs so he showed me how quick and easy it was to do it this way….came in handy because a couple months later I scored a HS2 and had no help with me and the owner would not help. Took no time at all to break it down and load it up.

    #15 6 months ago
    Quoted from Pickle:

    If it’s just one game and not gonna be moved anytime soon then no need for an escalara.

    Disconnect everything in the head and remove the head. Move the head to the basement…..pull the entire playfield out of the cabinet and set it aside. Then move the empty cabinet and set it up in the basement. Carefully move the playfield to the basement and put it back in the cabinet. Attach the head and connectors. Double check all connections and it’s done.

    This is a pain IF you had to move games up/down stairs often but if it’s just every once in a while a good option instead if you don’t have access to an escalara.

    I have only had to do this twice..once when I was pretty new in the hobby and my friend didn’t feel like wrestling with a game down some stairs so he showed me how quick and easy it was to do it this way….came in handy because a couple months later I scored a HS2 and had no help with me and the owner would not help. Took no time at all to break it down and load it up.

    It's an arcade cabinet

    Good tips otherwise, tho!

    #16 6 months ago
    Quoted from mbaumle:

    That’s my neck of the woods! Only 15 mins away. I’m out of town this weekend for a wedding, but I’d be glad to help you out if I can.

    Thank you for the offer. If I can’t get it moved I’ll let you know.

    #17 6 months ago
    Quoted from Pickle:

    If it’s just one game and not gonna be moved anytime soon then no need for an escalara.
    Disconnect everything in the head and remove the head. Move the head to the basement…..pull the entire playfield out of the cabinet and set it aside. Then move the empty cabinet and set it up in the basement. Carefully move the playfield to the basement and put it back in the cabinet. Attach the head and connectors. Double check all connections and it’s done.
    This is a pain IF you had to move games up/down stairs often but if it’s just every once in a while a good option instead if you don’t have access to an escalara.
    I have only had to do this twice..once when I was pretty new in the hobby and my friend didn’t feel like wrestling with a game down some stairs so he showed me how quick and easy it was to do it this way….came in handy because a couple months later I scored a HS2 and had no help with me and the owner would not help. Took no time at all to break it down and load it up.

    Thanks. That’s pretty much how we got the 3 pins down there. This arcade machine is a beast.

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    #18 6 months ago
    Quoted from phillyfan64:

    Thanks. That’s pretty much how we got the 3 pins down there. This arcade machine is a beast.[quoted image]

    Sorry I missed that it was an arcade LOL!
    Remove the monitor….that will get rid of some weight…..pretty easy to do and may make it manageable if you can’t get an escalara soon enough. I have moved a few that way without issue.

    #19 6 months ago
    Quoted from Pickle:

    Sorry I missed that it was an arcade LOL!
    Remove the monitor….that will get rid of some weight…..pretty easy to do and may make it manageable if you can’t get an escalara soon enough. I have moved a few that way without issue.

    I’m afraid to mess with it.

    #20 6 months ago
    Quoted from bluespin:

    Call the Gameseum and ask for Steven/otaku. http://thegameseum.com/
    Just kidding!
    #paytheboob

    Otaku holds the speed record for getting a machine down a flight of stairs. Escalara and all!

    #paytheboob

    #21 6 months ago

    Well I bought an appliance dolly from Lowes. Mixed reviews. Only has 1 strap. Around $200. I know I can rent them but I wanted to have one for future use. I’m going to do as Pickle suggests and take the monitor out of it. I’m going to see if I can also get the mirror out.

    #22 6 months ago

    It’s not going to fit. The landing isn’t deep enough to accommodate the game and the dolly wheels. Oh boy.

    #23 6 months ago
    Quoted from phillyfan64:

    Well I bought an appliance dolly from Lowes. Mixed reviews. Only has 1 strap. Around $200. I know I can rent them but I wanted to have one for future use. I’m going to do as Pickle suggests and take the monitor out of it. I’m going to see if I can also get the mirror out.

    Take pictures of the connectors on the monitor so you know exactly how to hook it up. You should only have to disconnect the power to the monitor and the video sync connector. And maybe a ground connector if it’s hooked up. Just be careful of the neck board and you should be just fine. There should be nothing on the neck to mess with but the are EASY to hit and crack if not careful. If it’s just a standard 19” monitor it weighs like 30-40lbs but because they sit so high in the cabinet it affects the center of gravity making them so awkward. It will still be a little heavy but much easier to manage.

    #24 6 months ago
    Quoted from Pickle:

    Take pictures of the connectors on the monitor so you know exactly how to hook it up. You should only have to disconnect the power to the monitor and the video sync connector. And maybe a ground connector if it’s hooked up. Just be careful of the neck board and you should be just fine. There should be nothing on the neck to mess with but the are EASY to hit and crack if not careful. If it’s just a standard 19” monitor it weighs like 30-40lbs but because they sit so high in the cabinet it affects the center of gravity making them so awkward. It will still be a little heavy but much easier to manage.

    Thanks for the info. I have had the chassis out before but never the monitor. I just looked it over. I think I can get everything out of the cabinet. Now I’m worried about how I will get it off the landing. The game and the dolly wheels aren’t going to fit. I guess now I’m looking at those mover straps.

    #25 6 months ago

    When I get the monitor out, can I put it face down on a blanket or pillow? I don’t want to rest it on the side where the neck might get damaged.

    #26 6 months ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    Well...he inferred that, in fact, I was the one that was crazy for lending it out and what did I expect. So maybe he should be called Selfish Levi.

    Cute. Or, you could call me "Not the kind of moron who lends a brand new $2500 machine to a complete stranger to use completely unsupervised and then whines about it for three years after he breaks it Levi"

    Whichever you think is more accurate.

    #27 6 months ago
    Quoted from phillyfan64:

    When I get the monitor out, can I put it face down on a blanket or pillow? I don’t want to rest it on the side where the neck might get damaged.

    Yes you can, a folded blanket would probably be more stable vs a pillow. As long as it’s for a short period of time, wouldn’t store it like that long term.

    Talking about your landing, is there even enough room to turn or tilt the cabinet when you get to that point? Double check your path before moving it, sucks to discover things mid carry on stairs, lol.

    #28 6 months ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Cute. Or, you could call me "Not the kind of moron who lends a brand new $2500 machine to a complete stranger to use completely unsupervised and then whines about it for three years after he breaks it Levi"
    Whichever you think is more accurate.

    Not quite how it happened but since you're the Pinside Resident Genius, I defer to your expertise on the matter.

    #29 6 months ago

    You can see the difference between New York and New Jersey in this thread.

    #30 6 months ago
    Quoted from insight75:

    You can see the difference between New York and New Jersey in this thread.

    Yep. And there's a little thing called karma, so I'm fine with everything I did...and awesome Pinsiders proved I'm right by returning the good karma to me, so it all worked out.

    While we're at it, I actually would help the OP with his problem, but I'm really too far away.

    #31 6 months ago
    Quoted from SterlingRush:

    Yes you can, a folded blanket would probably be more stable vs a pillow. As long as it’s for a short period of time, wouldn’t store it like that long term.
    Talking about your landing, is there even enough room to turn or tilt the cabinet when you get to that point? Double check your path before moving it, sucks to discover things mid carry on stairs, lol.

    Thanks. I will use a blanket. There isn’t enough room to turn or to even set the cabinet upright on the landing with a dolly attached. The dolly wheels will get in the way. But it can be lifted over a low wall if straps are used. We have not yet installed the railings so we can get all the games and furniture down there. I’ve hired a professional mover that moves special items like pianos and safes. They will be here next week. I will take the tube, mirror and circuit boards out of the cabinet.

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    #32 5 months ago

    Landings are ALWAYS a problem! The best way to do it is to sell the house and buy one with an outside basement entrance, or failing that, a straight staircase without a landing.

    Failing that, the second best way, and it will require 2-3 STRONG guys, is to move the game on the dolly to the last step above the landing, stop, unstrap it, and manually lower the game to the landing, leaving the dolly on the stair above. Yes, you are correct. This is NOT as easy as it sounds!

    Then, if you slide the game away from the wall, you can rotate and squeeze the dolly back under the game, restrap, and continue down the remaining 2 or 3 steps. You will almost certainly ding the newly painted walls and will have to repaint. It is what it is. Many guys who might normally offer to help with the move will avoid a situation like this due to potential damage to the walls and resultant hard feelings. You can be as careful as you want but the turning, leaning, and twisting of the game will cause at least a small amount of damage to the surrounding walls. I know!

    And ps, when you sell the house, sell it WITH the Space Invaders. Going back up the stairs is even harder than going down! It's a one-time thing. Also, as a note, you might be better off with a standard appliance dolly instead of the Escalera since the Escalera is a bit deeper than many non-motorized dollys, making the overall repositioning at the landing somewhat more difficult.

    Also pps, measure your cabinet and the landing. It might be close!

    #33 5 months ago

    If the game doesn’t fit down there it’s staying in the dining room. Unless I decide to sell it but I don’t want to do that. I like your idea but I don’t know how they would lift it off the step. No leverage. Landing about 36” deep. Space Invaders 34” deep. Space Invaders + appliance dolly that I just bought about 43” deep.

    #34 5 months ago

    Generally going down the steps with an applicants dolly is pretty easy… one step at time. Let the dolly keep weight…..

    Now landings are awful. I had one that turned with dpstepsmthat turned for corner….. what I did wad build a platform. With some ply wood and 2x 6s …. Gave me a nice flat surface to land and rotate on…

    You could do that here as well….. would give you bigger space to operate on the elevated landing….. the only bummer with this is you have to deal with a two step drop……

    #35 5 months ago
    Quoted from phillyfan64:

    If the game doesn’t fit down there it’s staying in the dining room. Unless I decide to sell it but I don’t want to do that. I like your idea but I don’t know how they would lift it off the step. No leverage. Landing about 36” deep. Space Invaders 34” deep. Space Invaders + appliance dolly that I just bought about 43” deep.

    Just build up the landing a step or two. Then a simple ramp down after you turn. Would that work?

    #36 5 months ago
    Quoted from ataritoday:

    Generally going down the steps with an applicants dolly is pretty easy… one step at time. Let the dolly keep weight…..
    Now landings are awful. I had one that turned with dpstepsmthat turned for corner….. what I did wad build a platform. With some ply wood and 2x 6s …. Gave me a nice flat surface to land and rotate on…
    You could do that here as well….. would give you bigger space to operate on the elevated landing….. the only bummer with this is you have to deal with a two step drop……

    Quoted from mbwalker:

    Just build up the landing a step or two. Then a simple ramp down after you turn. Would that work?

    The platform idea might work.

    #37 5 months ago
    Quoted from phillyfan64:

    The platform idea might work.

    Nothing fancy...just some 2x4's (or 2x6) to extend a step, then covered w/some plywood (I'd definitely have some support under the plywood area that the dolly wheels are at), then build up a ramp w/some more 2x4's.

    #38 5 months ago

    Landings are a pain. Actually had to do this with a friends Space Invaders. We slid it down to the landing on a large piece of cardboard. 3 guys. There was no room on the landing to turn and his wife did NOT want any paint damage. On the lower stairs we built a platform with wood and plywood at the same heigh5 as the landing so we could slide the game across. We also used a flat 4 wheel furniture dolly on the landing to lodge the game on and then it easily slid over onto the platform. Then we just had to lift it off the platform. Took a while but turned out not to be as difficult as we had thought.

    Good Luck. Those old arcade cabs are tough to move.

    #39 5 months ago

    Good luck with this, I’ve been collecting arcade cabinets for 12 years. I’ve pulled from garages, sheds, barns and closed bars. The absolute worse to get then from was someone basement with a landing lol. Before the hobby became super popular, I had at least one maybe two that looked and great and worked, sold for under a $100 to me. I just had to get it out of their basement that looked a lot like yours. PITA but worth it.

    #40 5 months ago

    Well it’s done. Sometimes it’s just better to leave it to the pros. That’s what I did. It took the movers 10 minutes.

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    #41 5 months ago

    So please tell us how they moved it.

    #42 5 months ago
    Quoted from Pinball_Postal:

    So please tell us how they moved it.

    I took everything fragile out of the cabinet. Picture tube, mirror, circuit boards, etc. I also left off the 2 back pieces to give them something to grab onto. All this did make it a little lighter. These guys were really strong. They just carried it down the steps. One guy at the top end, one at the bottom. No dolly, no straps, nothing. When they got to the landing they just set it down and spun it and lifted it off. They knew exactly what they were doing. Not a scratch.

    #43 5 months ago

    That Space Invaders looks really nice! Any interest in selling it? You would need to get it to the driveway though....LOL!

    #44 5 months ago
    Quoted from sbmania:

    That Space Invaders looks really nice! Any interest in selling it? You would need to get it to the driveway though....LOL!

    Haha. Not for sale. Sorry.

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