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Anyone try to upgrade spike 2 machines for 5 1/4" speakers?


By RJL

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

I just received my deadpool le and iron maiden premium machines. The LE has 5 1/4" JBL stage 502's in the backbox and the premium has some really cheap 4" speakers. Has anyone tried upgrading to 5 1/4" and is it worthwhile vs just upgrading the 4" speakers?

I have some 4" pinball pro back box speakers I never used but the mounting studs stern provided are not long enough because the pinball pro speakers have a spacer for the leds. Any ideas on how to handle this?

I did add an external powered sub to the iron maiden which dramatically improved the sound, but it still pales in comparison to the deadpool le (also with external sub). The LE still sounds much better so I think upgrading the back box on the premium is the way to go.

Either way, 4" or 5 1/4" I have a bit of a project so I was hoping to learn from your collective experience.

Thanks

Rich

#2 1 year ago

I was wondering the same thing. I’d love to throw some 5.25’s in my As and imdn.

#3 1 year ago
Quoted from RJL:

I just received my deadpool le and iron maiden premium machines. The LE has 5 1/4" JBL stage 502's in the backbox and the premium has some really cheap 4" speakers. Has anyone tried upgrading to 5 1/4" and is it worthwhile vs just upgrading the 4" speakers?
I have some 4" pinball pro back box speakers I never used but the mounting studs stern provided are not long enough because the pinball pro speakers have a spacer for the leds. Any ideas on how to handle this?
I did add an external powered sub to the iron maiden which dramatically improved the sound, but it still pales in comparison to the deadpool le (also with external sub). The LE still sounds much better so I think upgrading the back box on the premium is the way to go.
Either way, 4" or 5 1/4" I have a bit of a project so I was hoping to learn from your collective experience.
Thanks
Rich

The spacer rings on your Pinball Pro speakers aren't there for the LEDs....they are there so the speaker can be mounted and the spacer ring leaves room for the tweeter that extends out past the speaker's mounting points in the front. The LED lights are just something they threw in there after I gave them the idea to have lights in the pinball speakers.

That being said, those Pinball Pro speakers should mount fine for you in your Iron Maiden Premium. You will just need to get (4) 6-32 male-female hex standoffs that are 5/8" long. Put those hex posts down on the studs that are coming out of the back of the factory speaker plates and then put the speakers with the rings on them with the factory nuts.

As for adding 5 1/4" speakers in a pro or premium game instead of a 4" speaker....that would take a different speaker plate or at the least some heavy duty remodeling (bigger speaker holes and mounting stud's locations changed). You may be able to order the LE Iron Maiden or Deadpool LE speaker plates from a Stern distributor, but I know Stern sometimes limits sales of LE specific parts to confirmed LE owners.

Keep in mind what I have described above is just the mounting aspect of getting the 5 1/4" speakers in there. I have no idea if anything would have to be changed as far as getting the 5 1/4" speakers to work in the games as they should (electronics wise).

Doug (www.SpeakerLightKits.com)

#4 1 year ago
Quoted from DugFreez:

The spacer rings on your Pinball Pro speakers aren't there for the LEDs....they are there so the speaker can be mounted and the spacer ring leaves room for the tweeter that extends out past the speaker's mounting points in the front. The LED lights are just something they threw in there after I gave them the idea to have lights in the pinball speakers.
That being said, those Pinball Pro speakers should mount fine for you in your Iron Maiden Premium. You will just need to get (4) 6-32 male-female hex standoffs that are 5/8" long. Put those hex posts down on the studs that are coming out of the back of the factory speaker plates and then put the speakers with the rings on them with the factory nuts.
As for adding 5 1/4" speakers in a pro or premium game instead of a 4" speaker....that would take a different speaker plate or at the least some heavy duty remodeling (bigger speaker holes and mounting stud's locations changed). You may be able to order the LE Iron Maiden or Deadpool LE speaker plates from a Stern distributor, but I know Stern sometimes limits sales of LE specific parts to confirmed LE owners.
Keep in mind what I have described above is just the mounting aspect of getting the 5 1/4" speakers in there. I have no idea if anything would have to be changed as far as getting the 5 1/4" speakers to work in the games as they should (electronics wise).
Doug (www.SpeakerLightKits.com)

Doug,

This is very helpful.

Thanks,

Rich

BYW - i have several of your light kits, they're great!

1 year later
#5 27 days ago

It sounds like others out there have put LE speakers, the JBL Sound Stage 502 speakers in their Pro's and Premiums. Can those work with the premium out of the box? I want to ensure theres no different amp or wiring in the premium/pro vs the LE's.

1 week later
#6 19 days ago
Quoted from bent98:

It sounds like others out there have put LE speakers, the JBL Sound Stage 502 speakers in their Pro's and Premiums. Can those work with the premium out of the box? I want to ensure theres no different amp or wiring in the premium/pro vs the LE's.

I believe that most of the games that have the larger LE speakers:

Batman 66 SLE
Iron Maiden LE
Deadpool LE
The Munsters LE
Black Knight: Sword of Rage LE
Jurassic Park LE
Elvira's House of Horrors SE and LE

...do have a different amp, but the wiring is the same and I have heard of folks putting the larger 5.25" speakers in their Pro and Premium games and enjoying the upgrade. I'm also not sure of which games, but many of the SPIKE 2 games have had their system software updated to add a feature to change the setting in the game from 8ohm to 4 ohm speakers for this type of speaker change.

As for the physical mounting of the speakers, there are speaker plates available to accommodate the 5.25" speakers. I hope to have these available soon myself at a more affordable price than they are available for now. If things work out as expected a person should be able to do this type of 4" to 5.25" speaker upgrade at a lower price than is currently possable for AND it will include one of my SPIKE 2 Speaker Light Kits (though the speaker will have to be purchased separately, just as they would now with the current upgrade of this type).

Doug (SpeakerLightKits.com)

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