Juuuuuust walked into this thread.

So, I'm guessing still no SE gameplay?

Man...that was a disappointing stream.

CE foul-ups, game orders backed up being shipped, playfields seemingly pooling, and a really underwhelming fairly barren SE being streamed have really taken the wind out of the sails for me, for this game.

These streams need to cap off at 30-60 minutes. The energy just fizzles, and this one in particular seemed really low energy.

The white hotrails lose so much via no color changing, and no spotlights, the entire concert atmosphere seems more like a wet thud than a hard rock smash that the LE brings.

Game seems stripped to near Stern Pro levels, though the guys streaming incessantly said otherwise, and how little of a difference there was, over and over and over again. Yeesh. Seriously guys?

Even though I really don't like the upper playfield much, removing it and the bass and guitar necks AND the spotlights and color hotrails remove nearly all of the underglass excitement.

If JJP was stripping so much, they clearly could have put more than that weird empty, raptor Stern type plastics up there along with Axl.

Wonka SE is a far, far fuller game, sadly.

Well, like...sure. Almost everything is an opinion on here! (I enjoy the site more when it's more helpful information based frankly, but for me my experience is low, so just another b.s. time wasting opinion here.)

I'd rather pay more at the $7500 option to get some features back, like maybe the guitar lock and color hotrails. This just has so much of the game neutered, and seemingly code/asset/lcd reliant. I can't be happy about that, and it definitely pushes this game more towards LE or bust territory, for ME, for sure. But I'm not buying anything until these pooling issues are corrected. (Don't really "need" more games anyway.)

I did!

Well, kinda. Was cooking sausages in the background.

Karl from IE Pinball is incredible in his demonstrative abilities. Jack is pretty engaging, and has a personality with energy and wit, even though the schtick wears on me afterawhile. The Buffalo folks kinda fall nicely between.

Sorry, but I just don't understand streams that are dull, lifeless, drone on, and lack compelling information. Not everyone needs to stream, act, direct, create music, etc. Just because you technically can, doesn't make a product interesting or compelling, and streams like this represent a brand. They ARE advertising, and man...with the "SE is so packed!!!" mantra over and over again, it surely was advertising based, and hopefully not the genuine opinions of these guys.

I'm most tempted by that, value wise, more than anything currently out! Maybe a JP2 Pro too!

Stern's kissin' cousin.

Is this the one featured in the infamous photo of it laying in the grass?