Saddle River, NJ
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Wizard of Oz
Jersey Jack, 2013
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Quoted from DNO:If someone says one thing, then does another, what would you call them?
Working their butt off to make the best damn machine possible!
It's amazing, reading over the last 20 posts or so. Some people actually get it! ...and, some, I'm afraid, never will. Some of you act like its a plot. Believe me, I'm sure nobody wants this game out there more than Jack. He's taking the heat because he wants it right. If you can't take it anymore, instead of bitching and moaning, just get your money back. Or better yet, sell your spot for a profit and move on.
Let the man and his team work. I'm sure they're doing everything they can to get this machine done and done right. As of now I'm done with these WOZ threads until there is some REAL information, not just bullshit. Just my opinion. 
Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:Ted no offense intended but the community has given Jack and the team plenty of slack. A ton of slack IMO. I have multiple friends on the WOZ buyer list that are starting to get frustrated with the misinformation or totally unreliable info that has been released regarding when they will see this pin at their door. And rightfully so, they have had thousands of dollars tied up in this project for a very very long time now. IMO at this point they have a right to bitch about it.
Ok, so WHAT do you think the problem is?
a) Jack is doing this on purpose just to screw with us.
b) He's going out of business and is moving to Mexico.
C) He was being overly optimistic and had problems inherent in this business.
Quoted from gambit3113:Name me one other example of this kind of missed promise and so severely blown timeline.
And you think he's doing this on purpose? Ok...what is going on...you tell me. The whole thing is a scam, machines will NEVER be made. He's taking on all this time and expense just to screw us over. No one EVER misses a deadline because of unforseen problems. What do you think is going on and for what purpose?? 
Quoted from Mike_J:If you have ordered a game and have legitimate concerns contact JJP.
Yes!
Quoted from gambit3113:I think that selling machines, in part, requires them to be of a quality that he can sell as the best.
Isn't that what BUSINESS is all about? It's bad when you try to do the same thing with crappy quality merch.
Quoted from Mike_J:This should help put to rest most concerns expressed on this forum.
HAH!! 
Quoted from absocountry2:No, every dime I spend on pinball is a write off in my book. In this case I can still get it back if I want but I have made a decision as an adult to spend my money where I want. I am not sticking up for Jack, I am telling the whiners to stop telling me that Jack pulled a fast one(over two years), my money is gone, he lied because he though he could finish the game faster, the game looks good if you ever see it, and the flippers suck. STFU and let us try and enjoy the game we love on a great site that Robin wants to stay positive. We can critique without being negative. Just because a person is trying to be positive, it does not mean they have some syndrome and will follow somebody off a cliff.
I like the way you think! 
Quoted from BackFlipper:I have considered trying to sell my early spot for quite a while, but I feel my credibility with my family will only be restored when I finally get that game into my house. You see, it's not even about the game anymore. It's to prove a point. Many of us on this thread are waiting just to prove a point to someone. Many of us have been masterfully manipulated to arrive at this very moment - the moment of truth when all will be revealed.
lol...please! Don't be Masterfully Manipulated. Sell your spot, make a profit and take the family on that vacation! You can be the Hero!
Quoted from jarjarisgod:I think I need to get me some hooch to make sense of what I've read in this thread. Any recommendations?
FIREBALL Wiskey! yum
Quoted from Sunfox:Regardless, if you've been unhappy for so long, you absolutely should not have hung around. Simply get your money back and move on to greener pastures.)
And with that, I bid youz a good night. (it's ok, we'll start up early tomorrow...) 
Quoted from BigOrange:What the hell kind of business is he running where he lets people who he has no real influence over "pitch in" in a critical role on something with millions ($) on the line and thousands of people potentially affected?
Uh, I think Alex is an expert in his field and Jack is happy to have his input. (NOW good night)
Quoted from AkumaZeto:This game needs to ship in whatever form it is in.
This is not what most people want.
Quoted from gambit3113:You take this temperature frequently with most people, do you? Hyperbole Ted. Post a .gif and complete the circuit.
And you? Post something to fan flames. Complete the circuit. please!
Quoted from pindome:It just seems that if the drama really bothers you don't click on any WOZ related topic.
Yep
...and, yes, Akuma, I have plenty of USEFULL gifs. And plenty of PM's from Pinsiders that say they love em' 
Quoted from rommy:Getting this machine made in the US is a frikkin miracle. For both(all) companies.
AND Predator too!
Quoted from Rarehero:Wow, way to cut down my quoted list of differences so that you could make a joke at my expense.
...and I don't even get the joke...
Quoted from gambit3113:Yeah, there is. Upper right hand corner.
Is the band like the Boogie-Men on Elvira & the Party Monsters, or do they do more than bop up and down. 
Ok...thanks for the look! Whoa, that game is nothing like the one I played! LOTS of extra stuff here. But, I agree, the dancing guys are pretty lame! And is it still true, you have to buy a whole new playfield to change the mini-playfield plastic?? (love the cannon and drop targets though)
Quoted from iceman44:The cannon mod is a must, the stock one looks like one of those firecracker boxes you get on the 4th of July, the tanks, cannons, etc....
The cannon seems to work similar to the one in T2 except for REAL drop targets! I like that!
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