I like the quick drains down the middle that seemed to catch that one dude off guard. Welcome to our world.
I like the quick drains down the middle that seemed to catch that one dude off guard. Welcome to our world.
Quoted from fireball2:Speaking of the pops... they seem to have their own ruleset, so to speak. The pops have an entire stepper unit to themselves. It looks like the alternator turns whatever pops are lit on and off, but hitting a lit pop moves the stepper and eventually another pop will light, and then the third. I think they will still cycle off and on with the alternator, but I am still experimenting. mjalexan, am I close?
That sounds right, on one side of the lights they are controlled by a thumper control relay switch, that relay is dependent on one 0-9 match unit disc and the thumper bumper control unit disc. This controls all of the 7 lights involved: 3 thumpers, 2 slings, and 2 specials. On the other side they are controlled by another 0-9 match unit disc. This disc has 3 lit positions and 4 unlit positions for the 7 lights. 1st lit position controls left thumper, right sling, and right special. 2 unlit. 2nd lit position controls center thumper. 3rd lit position controls right thumper, left sling, left special. then 2 unlit. this should be the sequence of lighting you see during play, after position 7 it individually lights the ABCD rollovers. After that, i THINK it cylces quickly through the 0-9 match lights. Not 100% on that.
what part are you referring to as the alternator?
Quoted from mjalexan:what part are you referring to as the alternator?
Sorry, I mean the 0-9 match unit, which steps with every 1 point and alternates through the lighting sequence... Sorry for my inexact lingo.
For a simple looking game, there's a lot going on here.
Quoted from Tsskinne:I thought I noticed that on the C but then it was scoring again. I’ll check the switch and see if it needs an adjustment. The game is very fun. Hope to use it in a tournament next week.
Since the C lane scoring was sparoidic, it is probably just a dirty or slightly out of adjustment switch.
Ummm, not to assign homework to anyone, but would anyone volunteer to write up the "Multiball" feature discussed here? It seems that IPDB would like to have that documented.
"We are seeking a concise explanation of how the multiball feature works on a properly working Mad World game."
https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1504&picno=13361
I do not know the gentleman who runs IPDB or I would just point him to this thread.
Quoted from jbovenzi:I do not know the gentleman who runs IPDB or I would just point him to this thread.
IPDB's posting links have been missing for months. FWIW, here's their contact page
https://www.ipdb.org/contact.html
In the spirit of doing something to help everyone, I will contact them. Let's see how I can help.
Thanks for the link!
I finally have my "Mad World" working properly, and I firmly believe that it's not meant to be "multi-ball" game. When the trapped ball is released into the shooter lane, you're too busy keeping the ball already in play from draining, so shooting the free ball into play just doesn't seem like what you would want to do. When the ball already in play drains, the player unit (ball count, or next player) does not advance until the "free" ball is played through. I'm going to try shooting it into play anyway, and see if it causes any issues with the ball count or trough gates losing track of ball count or control. BTW, my player unit not advancing issue was caused by a broken switch on the outhole relay. After the switch was repaired, the game played properly.
Quoted from jrpinball:I finally have my "Mad World" working properly, and I firmly believe that it's not meant to be "multi-ball" game.
You are correct. The path to high scoring is to open the gate, trap a ball, move it down the lane and release it, playing the current ball for all it's worth until you drain, plunge the free ball, repeat still on same ball.
@jbovenzi's Mad World was quite popular at Cal Extreme. It's a great game for 2 players too, due to captured ball stealing.
I did some final tweaks on my "Mad World" today, and it's looking good and playing great! There's one thing though that I find a little odd, and I'm not sure if it's normal. Maybe someone can check theirs for me. When the red "open free ball gate" lights are lit, and you make the "C" inlane, the gate opens, but that's all. No points are scored by rolling over the wireform. On subsequent balls, the "C" lane does nothing at all until you put a ball in the free ball lane. Then, it functions the same as the other inlanes, scoring 10 points, and enabling a "special" on one of the outlanes. I inspected all the switches involved, and they are fine. Would someone who has one of these up and running be able to check their game and report back to me? TIA.
When i was playing Mad World at Clays VFW and the one brought to CAEX,
I also noticed that those lanes (C Lane in particular) sometimes scored pts and other times not
but unable to verify if was just dirty contact, or if just sparoidic,
Would have had to take PF glass off and play game by repeated pattern by hand scoring to prove if it was intended feature.
Quoted from pinwiztom:When i was playing Mad World at Clays VFW and the one brought to CAEX,
I also noticed that those lanes sometimes scored pts and other times not
but unable to verify if was just dirty contact, or if just sparoidic,
Would have had to take PF glass off and play game by repeated pattern by hand scoring to prove if it was intended feature.
It's only the "C" inlane. This is the only one lit for opening the free ball gate. It does absolutely nothing if the gate has been opened, but a ball isn't present in the free ball lane. Seems odd to me, but I couldn't find anything obviously wrong.
Quoted from jrpinball:I did some final tweaks on my "Mad World" today, and it's looking good and playing great! There's one thing though that I find a little odd, and I'm not sure if it's normal. Maybe someone can check theirs for me. When the red "open free ball gate" lights are lit, and you make the "C" inlane, the gate opens, but that's all. No points are scored by rolling over the wireform. On subsequent balls, the "C" lane does nothing at all until you put a ball in the free ball lane. Then, it functions the same as the other inlanes, scoring 10 points, and enabling a "special" on one of the outlanes. I inspected all the switches involved, and they are fine. Would someone who has one of these up and running be able to check their game and report back to me? TIA.
It would appear the top C rollover only scores ten points when the free ball relay is energized. Or do i have it backwards? Either way, scoring on that rollover lane is conditional to the free ball relay.
Mad World C (resized).jpgQuoted from mjalexan:It would appear the top C rollover only scores ten points when the free ball relay is energized. Or do i have it backwards? Either way, scoring on that rollover lane is conditional to the free ball relay.
This. No points for opening the gate. Once a ball is in there, C lane scores 10p.
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