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Anyone else having problems with USPS?


By SCJoe

71 days ago



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    #201 67 days ago

    Time to piss off everybody here: you are both right and wrong.

    From my firsthand experience with working with the USPS, they are the most ass-backwards organization in the US government. They have antiquated practices and technology, and more importantly, leadership. They are slow to act, slow to change, and in general, have a don't give a shit attitude. They are one of the few US government agencies that are unionized (actually, two), which leads to a variety of issues you do not see in other government agencies. They are the very definition of bureaucracy, and a lot of their challenges are self inflicted. On the plus side, they are cheap and serve the public good. On the negative side, they lose tons of money on parcels, which is a horrible business model.

    For the folks that have not paid attention to the USPS before maybe two weeks ago, a lot of the things that you see with shutting down machines, etc have been common practices for many years, regardless of administration. They have deep, systemic issues that throwing billions of dollars at right now will not fix, and definitely not before the election. Fundamentally, the USPS needs to be rearchitected to address the new economy of mail (first class mail is down, junk and parcels are up). Personally, I would love to see the USPS provide banking services again to help serve those that are underbanked and underserved. That is a relatively easy thing you can do now to help reorient the Postal service.

    Now, with that being said, I am disgusted that they are doing these things now, during a pandemic, and leading up to the election. The optics of this are horrible, and anything that causes doubt about our election system is a bad thing. Regardless of which idiotic party you pull for, nobody is going to be happy that the vast majority of this election is going to be conducted via mail. The media stories are going to be either "voter fraud" or "my vote was not counted in time", or both. As with most things, the truth will be somewhere in the middle. Regardless, these shenanigans do have an impact on the election and as an American, I think that sucks.

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    #202 67 days ago
    Quoted from DBLM:

    Regardless, these shenanigans do have an impact on the election and as an American, I think that sucks.

    Simple, between now and November 3rd vote like we have for the past several decades.

    Plenty of opportunity via absentee voting OR early voting OR in person.

    One person, one vote. NOTHING has changed in YOUR ability to cast a ballot.

    North Carolina, New York, Iowa and Illinois elections are just recent examples of the shit show that ensues with this crap.

    When there is NO enthusiasm and low voter turnout anticipated then let's just flood the zone with millions of ballots whether people want them or not.

    Who wants this and why?

    What "sucks" is trying to get dead people and dogs to vote is no bueno.

    With this last post, my vote is that i'm now out.

    #203 67 days ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    I'm down with fun. Pinballers are getting their nads in a wad because their mods are getting delivered a day or two late? LOL. Nope, its a politics thing. After Nov. 3rd we can go back to nobody gives a shit about the post office
    I like the postal dude that shows up at my mail box daily.
    I paid for a JP shooter rod from Gameroom Classics out of Georgia.
    I check every other day to see if it shows up. It's a highlight of my boring day.
    When its NOT there i don't blame the postal guy. I know it's Stern's fault

    Iceman - good to hear, but seems like you're missing the point of this thread.

    Just sayin'. Our mutual political beliefs aside.

    #204 67 days ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    Should be shut down
    Provides ZERO value

    Quoted from iceman44:

    Lol. # cancel culture. Only one side opinion matters

    #205 67 days ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    No, I’m sure don’t get it
    The rules seem lost on you
    As in shutting down my opinion and then discussing politics with the USPS
    If you’d like to debate me on the facts and look foolish just pm me. It’s better that way
    Seems like it’s allowed in this one

    Hey man. I don't think I'm shutting down your opinion, I'm asking you to perhaps back up your opinion. NOt sure why that bothers you. My apologies if it offended you.

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    #206 67 days ago

    Fauci says wearing a mask, keeping 6 feet apart, and hand washing/sanitizer will keep us safe.

    If that’s good enough to shop at wal-mart, pump gas, and gamble in casinos....then it’s good enough to vote in person.

    Some countries take great pride in voting....

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    #207 67 days ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    Fauci says wearing a mask, keeping 6 feet apart, and hand washing/sanitizer will keep us safe.
    If that’s good enough to shop at wal-mart, pump gas, and gamble in casinos....then it’s good enough to vote in person.
    Some countries take great pride in voting....[quoted image]

    Do you not see the error in your logic?

    #208 67 days ago
    Quoted from j-fit:

    Do you not see the error in your logic?

    Nope
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    #209 66 days ago
    Quoted from cait001:

    Perhaps you should make it part of the Federal Service then? No one balks at the Pentagon budgets.

    Yet...

    #210 66 days ago
    Quoted from j-fit:

    I'm asking you to perhaps back up your opinion.

    He can’t. He’s wrong on virtually everything. Take it to the bank! Buy buy buy!

    #211 66 days ago
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    #212 66 days ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    I like the postal dude that shows up at my mail box daily.

    We got screwed up here, don't get home delivery we have P.O. boxes instead.
    Some companies use the postal program to verify addresses, my address doesn't exist to the P.O. therefore they won't sell to me because...well...my house/address don't exist.
    Then there are those who ask for a shipping address then proceed to mail the item instead.
    This is where Debbie comes in, she knows me and calls when anything with a street address shows up and I go to that P.O. to pick it up.
    She enjoys her job so that makes a world of difference.
    My billing P.O. is in another town so if it wasn't for her that stuff would be returned to sender.
    If a sender gets something back and calls me I try to explain the difference between shipping and mailing, usually an exercise in futility.

    This crap has gone on since before I moved up here in '79.
    We raised enough hell to either deliver our mail or stop charging for our boxes so USPS threw us a bone and we get free boxes now with proof of residency.

    From what I understand about the sort facility in Berdoo they are taking out letter sorters to make room for package sorters that are not ready and will be arriving late.
    Also, FedEx and UPS occasionally leave packages at the local P.O. and tracking lets me know they are there so there is some sort of deal with them and the P.O.

    #213 66 days ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    Should be shut down
    Provides ZERO value

    Quoted from iceman44:

    After Nov. 3rd we can go back to nobody gives a shit about the post office
    I like the postal dude that shows up at my mail box daily.

    What would you do if you lived in BFE and the USPS was shut down like you want? Who’s gonna pick up/deliver your mail? Won’t be UPS, FEDEX or anybody else. You’re just SOL.

    #214 66 days ago

    I could certainly see why someone who has shares in the latter two would want to work to destroy first one. Having things as a "common good" hurts the profit margin.

    #215 66 days ago
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    #216 65 days ago

    I am reminded of Saturday afternoons in Detriot in 1986. I would go to my friends house every Saturday morning and watch peewee Herman and w w f.

    Of course we would smoke weed and after a short time the mailman began to stop and partake every Saturday.

    #217 65 days ago

    Think it was the Fourth of July...

    #218 64 days ago
    Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

    If they're even bothering to read them. Brevity is a good thing.

    Ding ding ding.

    #219 64 days ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    Ding ding ding.

    It's sad that people don't want to understand the problems to make their own conclusions.. instead they just want to decide whose conclusions they want to believe. The dumbing down continues...

    #220 64 days ago

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    #221 64 days ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    It's sad that people don't want to understand the problems to make their own conclusions.. instead they just want to decide whose conclusions they want to believe. The dumbing down continues...

    I don't think his issue are your points, more the massive, continuous text vomits.

    Even if people might appreciate your input and research, it gets a bit much to follow, retort to, or find focus within them.

    #222 64 days ago

    Just wanted to share I've received a lot of packages through the post office over the last 6 months and have not had one single issue. No issues sending anything through the post office either. I had one problem with UPS, but not the post office.

    #223 64 days ago

    Looks like FedEx has joined the DumbAss shipping club.

    I means it's gone from Orlando, to Washington, to Orlando, to Washington, to Oregon. And I live right below Atlanta. What the heck?

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    #224 64 days ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    I don't think his issue are your points, more the massive, continuous text vomits.
    Even if people might appreciate your input and research, it gets a bit much to follow, retort to, or find focus within them.

    I think it's people seeking 5 second answers to complex problems.

    I give people the 'if you read nothing else...' highlights like this after providing the real background - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/anyone-else-having-problems-with-usps/page/4#post-5808415 - and people can't handle something that compares 3 basic numbers??

    They still want the catchy 'gotcha' punchlines of how all the complex problems in the world can be easily explained by a boogeyman. It's how people continue to repeat and regurgitate stuff that simply isn't based on truth. They hear something 'convincing enough..' and run with it.

    Sorry, can't solve generational disfunction with 60 second tiktok videos and boogeymen fallguys.

    #225 64 days ago

    Results still seem to be all over the place...

    guy shipped me something priority package on Aug 20 (afternoon pickup) in Orlando. Original estimate was Aug 24.. was delivered Aug 22 morning.

    #226 64 days ago

    I have a package that took two days to get from Phoenix to Minneapolis...and has been sitting there going on 15 calendar days.

    I like to think of it as the USPS doing my covid package quarantine for me.

    My wife likes to think of it as me forgetting her birthday.

    #227 64 days ago

    I must be the exception to the rule.

    USPS label created around 3 in the afternoon on Friday, which I figured was later than mail pick up. Tracking said label created but package not in their system yet.

    So I figured I'd get it this week, maybe Thursday.

    It came in this mornings mail.

    I wish everyone's packages arrive fast.

    LTG : )

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    #228 64 days ago

    USPS has been fine for me. Fedex rates are through the roof, and I just had a large order for a customer put on a delivery truck 4 days, with the driver lying each time saying the customer requested it not be delivered. By the 5th day it was beat to shit

    UPS has shut down its customer service desk at a major terminal near us for pickups and drop offs to 4 hrs a day.

    Both have announced they are going to hike rates during the holiday season because they’ll be so busy. Somehow they expect everyone to believe their costs go up when they make more money. They know they have the world over a barrel because of covid.

    For better or worse, USPS can’t do these things. For anyone to suggest their problems are unique to them is completely disingenuous.

    #229 64 days ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    It's sad that people don't want to understand the problems to make their own conclusions.. instead they just want to decide whose conclusions they want to believe. The dumbing down continues...

    wait until you see the Covid thread...

    #230 64 days ago

    This guys a real winner

    #231 64 days ago

    I’ve sold at least 50 items on eBay since March and no problems yet. 1 item I purchased got lost in the mail for about a week but then showed up.

    #232 64 days ago
    Quoted from albummydavis:

    Both have announced they are going to hike rates during the holiday season because they’ll be so busy. Somehow they expect everyone to believe their costs go up when they make more money. They know they have the world over a barrel because of covid.

    Do you somehow believe companies just grow without any new expenses?
    Or that somehow because top line revenues are up.. somehow that just means everything is up?

    Take UPS for instance
    While consumer business was up for UP dramatically last quarter under covid... B2B shipping was down over 20% (bottoming out at almost down 40%). B2B is over 30% of their business.

    Remember when all these employees were idled but still getting paid? That's an expense
    Remember all those changes they have to make to employee working conditions? That's a drag on efficiencies, that drives up cost

    Their margins in the US were actually LOWER this year compared to last due to these kinds of impacts.

    #233 64 days ago
    Quoted from cait001:

    wait until you see the Covid thread...

    I skipped that puppy months ago

    #234 64 days ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    I skipped that puppy months ago

    I uhhhhh... ALSO left that thread by my own volition...

    #235 64 days ago

    All this talk of sorting machines not mattering for packages is missing the point - they matter for mail-in ballots.

    #236 64 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    This guys a real winner

    If I were Louis, I would have watched what she did to Jamie Dimon and possibly decided to learn about the post office over the weekend.

    #237 63 days ago
    Quoted from jwilson:

    All this talk of sorting machines not mattering for packages is missing the point - they matter for mail-in ballots.

    Then they should cite problems with handling that kind of mail... not late prescriptions, dead chickens, etc.

    They aren’t making a valid argument when they cite “similar looking, but unrelated” problems.

    Right now what we have is fear it could impact ballots - not examples. Truth is the machines were under utilized. They have other ones! They were reducing about 15% of their capacity in a space that is dropping almost double digits a year.

    Even the stories about the USPS warning election boards about risky due dates... is the same concerns they have raised every cycle to the election boards.

    #238 63 days ago

    here's my latest order coming from a company in Colorado. it's the second package that this has happened to in the past two weeks. the first one eventually arrived, this one is stuck, or at least hasn't been rescanned.

    Here's another that has gotten jerked around. started in Mn made it to NJ where I live and now it went back to Mn. anyone's guess when or if it will ever arrive. USPS needs serious reform. If they want to raise the price of mail, I'm good with that if it means better reliability and faster service...what's happening now is pretty disgraceful and you can never get answers from them so it's pretty pointless to even try with a good 1 hour wait on the phone.

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