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I've done the glue method On some "got nothing to lose" discs. It works, but I've found a spin clean followed by a diy vacuum attachment gets them just as clean without the hassle. Spin clean has half price sales on their website every now and then. It's a good entry level cleaning system imo.
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Quoted from pacmanretro:Is that an original press? Never saw it in yellow!
No, it's the newer rhino pressing. They did each disc in a unique color.
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Quoted from yfz450:Tonight's first spin.
Nice marantz. Used to have that exact receiver. Still regret selling it.
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The contra soundtrack?
https://mondotees.com/collections/music/products/contra-original-video-game-soundtrack-lp-1
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Quoted from Pickle:That's the problem with some reissues......old analog masters are not always used......sometimes they are......sometimes it's all remastered digital so it's a crapshoot on the reissue vinyl. Many sound great so I have no complaints so far....but I do try to pick up nice original copies when I find them. Its amazing when you find an original with zero wear and you wonder if it was ever played.
With the metallica issues, my problem isn't even that it's a digital transfer. I've heard plenty of digital transfers on vinyl that sound great. With these, the mastering is dull and lifeless. Like there's a blanket over the speakers. My reissue of puppets is also the noisiest new vinyl I've ever heard.
Quoted from vid1900:If there is one piece of vinyl everyone needs, it's on sale for $9.99 today 180g :
amazon.com link »
Those Hendrix reissues are nice. And cheap too
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Quoted from chippe01:Looks like it might not be the best for records - pushing down on the top, is that putting more pressure on the stylus resting in the groove?
I can't see how this would be stable at 78 RPM, but I'm curious.
They advertise crackles and pops, which tells me They already miss the point.
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Quoted from Chitownpinball:Thanks for the info. They were in my parents basement during a few floods. Never submersed but definitely got some moisture exposure. I was thinking the same thing though, MORE moisture. Probably a hot shower with the door closed and no fan or someting.
Luckily, its not ALL of them. I plan to get them all out of the crates and make piles of GOOD/BAD/WORSE before I go about trying to separate any.
Thanks again.
I think that's the way to go, followed by a good wet cleaning of each disc.
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Quoted from Schusler:I need to get some Megadeth vinyl.
I about shit myself when I looked at some of the prices of their catalog starting at Youthanasia. Especially the Cryptic Writings album...
Yeah it's up there. I paid more than i wanted to for this but the disc was mint and sounds phenomenal
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Speaking of Sabbath..have u ever heard Sheavy?! The singer is verrrry similar to a young ozzy! Canadian stoner rock!
No but I'll check out. I've been in the mood for some nice sludgy metal
Quoted from Skrippy:What's everyone's take on picture discs or colored vinyl over all? Just curious I've heard anything but black has overall worse quality. (Sorry if this has already been discussed!)
I have several colored discs that sound amazing. I don't own any picture discs and have heard that they sound inferior. That being said, a buddy of mine owns several and said they sound fine.
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Quoted from Chisox:Just a heads up those new Metallica pressings sound like shit. If that sort of thing matters to you. They never sounded great in the first place (the music obviously rules) but I bought this and MOP and they sound like it’s playing on one of those Fisher Price record players.
Edit to add I just realized it’s 9.99. Probably worth it.
I concur. My Ride reissue is bad but tolerable. Puppets is unlistenable.
Quoted from Rascal_H:My mission this summer is to find a cheap tape deck at a yard sale to add to my system so I can buy GNR Appetite and INXS Kick on cassette #lifegoals
I know cassettes are making a comeback, but i had my fill of them in the 80s. That's one format i won't be revisiting.
Somewhere, stored away in a box in my attic, I have the uncensored Amorica CD. It was briefly available here.
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Anyone have the metallica black album reissue? How's the sound quality? My experience with their other reissues is that they're God awful, but I've read that the black album is the exception. Wouldn't mind picking it up if that's the case.
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Quoted from Dee-Bow:^^^ Favourite clutch album right there^^^ Sure wish they'd press Transnational speedway league on vinyl already!!
No kidding. I think there's some drama with the old labels unfortunately. Hopefully we'll get that and pure rock on vinyl someday.
Quoted from electricsquirrel:I got a Spin Clean record cleaner for Christmas.
It works really good! They come out shiny and clean.
Sound better too!
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I like mine a lot. Try using one of those wand attachments for your shop vac the spin clean. Been using this process for a while now with great results.
Quoted from hassellcastle:I picked this up over the holidays at Half Price Books. Absolutely love it! George Harrison’s first solo album(s) right after the Beatles split. I can listen to “Isn’t it a pity” over and over.
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Great album. My dad had this one in his collection. My mom gave all of his albums to goodwill after they split. Still pissed about that one.
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Quoted from guitarded:Nice. I haven't cracked my copy open yet.
How does it sound?
Very nice, actually. Much better than their previous vinyl releases.
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Quoted from Scrimmbo:Is that the new thrash metal bungle album?
Yep and it's fantastic.
Quoted from Krupps4:What?! I didn’t even know a GI Joe album existed. I have to check that out...right now.
It went on pre-order right before Christmas. Hope you find one. Target canceled my pre-order and I had to scour the internet to find another place that had it.
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Quoted from zermeno68:Speaking of.... speakers. On a related topic of vinyl club... what are some of your choices and recommendation for speakers to support a record player??
Just got in the mail my new player, AT-LP-1240-USB.
Wanting to see what you think will crank out some great noise to combine with my record player.
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That's a loaded question that's going to get a different response from anyone you ask. Budget? Music style? Buying new/used? What reciever is driving them?
My advice is to head to an audio equipment store with some music samples and start test driving speakers.
Quoted from zermeno68:Yes, good point. I hope you can tell i'm not an audio guy. Passionate about listening to music, but lack the knowledge of components that drive the sound.
At the moment I have Yamaha R-N303BL running some simple Knox LP1 Powered Bookshelf Speaker.
When I started I bought a decent receiver with a basic turntable/speaker combo.
So, my budget would be around $600-$700. However, depending on suggestions I could sit and save a little more. I also understand depending on the speaker choice my receiver may need to be replaced.
My taste of music is little of EVERYTHING. The desire would be how to buy a setup that can satisfy all genres well enough?
They budget will get you some very decent speakers, pretty high end speakers in the used market. I would also read up on the speakers forum on audio karma.
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Quoted from guitarded:That album is pretty poorly recorded. And yeah, the re. from a year or two back is no improvement over the original CD.
They just did a box set re. of it and some bonus materials, but I have not heard much re the fidelity of the new one.
The BC LP to hunt down is the S. Korean Pressing of SHaMC.
That thing sounds tremendous!
This is the same 2020 master. I guess it's not bad overall, but should've been much better.
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Quoted from gonzo73:Green Sabbath vinyl! Is that a 70s press? Never seen it.
Very nice
Walmart exclusive. I hate giving them business, but I couldn't resist.
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Quoted from guitarded:Do you want to go modern / new or vintage / restored?
Personally, I find the vintage stuff much more engaging and rewarding.
Not that I don't have a sick modern rig as well...
just enjoy the stuff from the late 50's to late 70s so much more.
Same. Used vintage usually gets you a lot more bang for the buck.
Quoted from Pickle:So looks like I am going vintage. All reviews just about reference or mention the SL-1200....found one and may have it tomorrow....now to sort out an amp and speakers. I have my old Fisher amp from the 80’s that still works fine and speakers LOL! Will probably upgrade that. I also have my Dad’s old Harmon Kardon from the 70’s complete with an 8 track.
The 1200 is a great turntable. If that falls through, the models under it(1300,1400 etc) are also top quality. If be will to bet that HK reciever sounds pretty nice.
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Quoted from gonzo73:Forget the album, that Technics turntable is gorgeous .
Thanks! That was a bit of a restoration project. This model has a plastic piece in the automatic arm that is almost always broken. Luckily, there's a 3D printed, redesigned part available. After that and a general teardown/cleaning/lubrication, it's been a fantastic table.
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Quoted from Foxxstone_80:I don't have anything yet at this point.
Keep an eye on Facebook marketplace. You should be able to find a decent stereo reciever and speakers for fairly cheap if you're patient. Make sure the reciever has phono inputs and the surrounds on the speakers aren't shot. Places like goodwill usually have a rotating supply of old recievers and speakers as well. $300 isn't a lot to work with if you're looking for a complete setup, but it's doable if you look hard enough.
On the new end, $300 could possibly get you an AT bluetooth table and a set of monoprice bluetooth speakers, although that setup would be nothing special, it would at least let you get your feet wet.
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:Just got back from the record store, pretty cool place, ridiculous amounts of records,cds, and DVDs. Plus they had a data east playboy sitting in the corner, it was turned off and a bit dusty. The hipster working at the store couldn't tell me anything about it so I'm guessing it's was just there for decoration. Anyways, they recommended me a few different setups. The one was a new turn table, with a built in preamp (sorry I didn't get the brand), and then of course speakers. The whole setup was $120 for the record player and $69 for speakers. The other setup he recommended was Spindeck/w spinbase speakers. It looked pretty cool and I liked how the turn table sat on the speaker. $500 total for this. I didn't buy anything today. I wanted to think on it for a bit.
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I would avoid anything that sits on the speakers. Vibration is bad.
My friend just bought a similar audio technica. It's by no means high end, but it seems to do ok paired with the monoprice bluetooth speakers he bought for it. For the price, it's a decent sounding setup.
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:That's really cool! But my four young kids would most likely be swinging from that. I put felt furniture sliders under the record player, and I'll try some heavy books on the bottom shelf. I'll mess around with it and figure out the best setup. If nothing else I'll try a different stand. Good suggestions everyone.
They make isolation feet specifically for this, but if your kids have heavy feet, they may not completely solve the problem. Getting the turntable off the floor and on a wall mounted shelf would probably do it.
Quoted from gonzo73:Discogs highest sold price, strikes again ! Morons.
I don't even know that they were looking at discogs. The prices were so over the board. 70s Elton John at 20 bucks, while Barbara Streisand was 50.
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Quoted from Pablito350:Hey guys, let me know your cleaning process. I'd love to know some easy tips without buying a whole ultrasonic system. We have the anti static brush, velvet brush, stylus brush and spray liquids. Everyone has an opinion, just looking for some sage advice. Thank you
-chrissi
Grab yourself a spin clean next time they go on sale. Mine does a very decent job.
Quoted from TonyP66:I tried the spin clean and the problem I had that made me return it was the record guides would lift up and out when spinning the record which really made it a pain. I thought about ways to secure it but then decided to look for something better which I have yet to do. Does this happen with yours or did I get a 1.0 version?
Fill the water up a little higher above the line. That worked for me.
Quoted from Pablito350:We'll let you know how we do. We're going to try different things until we find what we like best.
Anyone ever try the wood glue method?
Yes in my early days of vinyl collecting. It works to an extent, but no better than a good wet cleaning. Its extremely time consuming, it can be difficult to get all the glue off and missing one little spec can ruin your stylus.
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Quoted from guitarded:>>Bought this for the hell of it. Heresy?
Not at all. Huge fan of the cassette tape, here. Love finding old stashes of well kept cassettes. Can usually be had for cents rather than dollars.
I have to say, I have horrible memories of cassettes. Getting chewed up, hiss, trying to blindly fast forward to a song etc. I was ready to never listen to a tape again. But after getting this thing cleaned up and working and throwing in a decent prerecorded tape, it's not bad at all. Could they be better than I remember?
Quoted from CrazyLevi:It was certainly great for convinence. And has a kid I thought they sounded better (because I had a shit turntable and tapes didn't pop!)
But thank goodness now I know better!
As a stupid aside...how did we think the sound on VHS tapes was? I had some concert tapes, and a stereo VCR hooked up to some old ass thrift shop amp in college with some technics speakers, and I thought they sounded fantastic!
I never once thought that vhs looked remotely good. Sound was passable at times. Even after buying an SVHS player. I was thrilled when dvd hit the market.
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Quoted from Chisox:Congrats on the new amp. What’s the verdict on the Clutch re-issue?
Fantastic packaging, shit sound quality, unfortunately.
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Quoted from Jace:What album is that?? Halo 2 soundtrack?
Halo infinite soundtrack.
If anyone has wanted Tools Fear Inoculum, but didn't want to dish out for the 5 disc set, the 3 disc version is too for pre-order.
Fear Inoculum https://a.co/d/0eKBHrH
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Quoted from Shredso:I absolutely love this album. How are the 3 new tracks? Different singer?
Not bad. Better than I would've expected them to be. Lanegans voice suits the band.
Quoted from meSz:How is the Animals reissue?
Overall, it sounds great. Unfortunately, it's getting sent back. This copy is noisy a hell.
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Those zeppelin reissues sound really good, despite what the purists will tell you.
Quoted from Dragon:that pioneer amp/reciever has a nice sound, I have one like it and used it all through the 80's
I just recently picked it up and continue to be impressed by it.
Quoted from vid1900:Should you buy the IKEA Turntable for $159 USD ?
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Quoted from lasermel:Anyone see the release notification of the 60th anniversary Limited Edition Turntable from Audio Technica? The AT-LP2022 - very cool looking!
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I can't decide if I really like it, or think it's hideous
Quoted from Dragon:are you thinking to buy it?
Nope
Quoted from Jman44:Thank you for the advice everyone on selecting a receiver. I am leaning towards the Technics SA-500 that gonzo73 suggested. How do I determine what speakers will work best with it? Thanks.
That's a nice vintage reciever, personally, I'd grab a nice pair a vintage speakers to go with it. I'd start by browsing FB marketplace and seeing what's available locally.
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How do you like that Grado Reference cart?
Quoted from meSz:Any Jack White fans .... "Boarding House Reach" Vinyl Record for $3.49 (7.48 with shipping)
https://www.merchbar.com/rock-alternative/jack-white/jack-white-boarding-house-reach-vinyl-record-1869875?bxid=3460009
That price is about right for that album. Not his best work.
Quoted from Clytor:Giving this a digital listen now. I dig it even though it's quite different from their older stuff. Thrash!
It's basically Slayer meets Anthrax, with the singer from Faith No More.
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:I'm about 10% through this thread so far and am drawn to the hardware the most. I really love the look of these vintage '70s receivers. I imagine that rebuilding them consists of replacing caps, transistors, etc. just like a pinball circuit board so that should be easy for me if needed. I see lots of beautiful Kenwood, Marantz, Pioneer, Technics vintage receivers in here. Any general tips or tricks for someone new to all of this? I haven't even convinced the wife yet to put a big receiver in her room but I am thinking she may like one of these over a modern receiver.
Honestly, most of the big brands from that era were built well enough that most of their recievers still work just fine, without a recap. I've done full and partial recaps on mine mainly as preventative maintenance/boredom.
If you're looking to buy a vintage amp, prices have gotten pretty crazy, but deals are still out there. Marantz is probably the worst as far pricing getting stupid, followed by Pioneer(although deals on pioneer can still be found if you're patient). Kenwood, Yamaha, Technics, NAD are excellent and seen to fly under the radar. The big wattage/monster amps are the most desirable and expensive. Don't go for power you won't use, unless you're willing to pay for bragging rights. Most people can get by just fine with 30-50 wpc. Opt for listings that advertise the amp as tested and working, unless you're willing to take the risk of buying an amp in need of major repairs.
Quoted from Deez:Happy to hear this. Just ordered one the other day. What are you using for solution?
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I've got a bottle of this stuff that I'm using just because I have it on hand. The guy who makes it says it's suitable for ultra sonics. Once it's gone, I'll probably look into some kind of Tergitol solution.
s-l1600 (resized).jpgQuoted from 30FathomDave:I've been thinking of picking up one of these (probably one of the budget models in the $200-400 range. I've only got a few hundred records and most of them are already pretty clean - but I'd love to get a bunch of the records my dad gave me sounding like how I remember them sounding as a kid in the 80's). How do you like it? I've watched some before and after videos on YouTube and the difference seems worth the purchase. Is there a solution mixture/process you'd recommend?
I just went with the $160 vevor and so far I'm extremely pleased. It seems to make the most difference on older albums that look clean and scratch free, but no matter how many times I'd cleaned them before, they've always played with surface noise. I'm guessing due to crud being packed deep in the groove that physical cleaning just wouldn't remove. With a few exceptions, most of these albums play dead quiet now. As far as the solution, I have a bottle of "Groovinator" cleaning solution on hand that I've been using with a few ounces of IPA mixed in. Once that's gone, I'll probably look into Tergitol or something similar.
Quoted from 30FathomDave:Right on! I watched some videos on that one and decided to pull the trigger. It should be here by Friday.
Last dumb question (maybe): do you do a final rinse after the ultrasonic cleaning before drying the records? I’ve seen mixed opinions online, but I don’t rinse my records after doing a quick spray/wipe, so a rinse sounds redundant to me… but I’m fairly new to this stuff.
Yeah, the spin clean is full of distilled and I use it for the final rinse now.
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