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#7301 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

I'm looking for recommendations on a good beginner setup for someone starting out in the vinyl record scene. I've never owned a record player before, but vinyl has always interested me. I'm not worried about sourcing the records, I travel a lot with work and I can find records easy enough. I'm just clueless as to what I should be getting initially for a decent setup. What type of record player do you guys recommend for someone new as well as speakers? looking for a basic setup that I can get started with.

What is your budget?

#7302 2 years ago

Iron Butterfly, In-a-gadda-da-vida.
I've probobly got 8 copies of this amazing album, I bought a thrashed copy in 93 or so, then found a slightly less thrashed copy....on and on. Finally bought this new copy, and a Japan press.
I'm done !
If you see me at a record show looking at another copy, just kick me in the shins.

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#7303 2 years ago
Quoted from guitarded:

What is your budget?

Thinking $300 ish or less

#7304 2 years ago

I'll put my cheap, rubber band driven table up against your mid tier technics anytime your like.

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As for a recommendation, $300 will get you a damn nice vintage turntable

#7305 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

Iron Butterfly, In-a-gadda-da-vida.
I've probobly got 8 copies of this amazing album, I bought a thrashed copy in 93 or so, then found a slightly less thrashed copy....on and on. Finally bought this new copy, and a Japan press.
I'm done !
If you see me at a record show looking at another copy, just kick me in the shins.
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Do you have the MoFi copy? Either way I’ll kick you in the shins if I see ya!!

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#7306 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

Thinking $300 ish or less

One recommendation .... Audio-Technica AT-LP120XUSB Direct-Drive Professional Record Player

Another recommendation is, if you're not opposed, is to buy a used one. Get a better table for around the same price point you're at!

#7307 2 years ago

I would recommend you increase your budget a little, at least.

Speakers $500-1500
Amplifier and pre-amp. $1000-2500
Record player. $500-1500

This is inexpensive compared to the expensive hobby of record collecting.

Pro-Ject make decent entry level turntables.

#7308 2 years ago

New member to the club
I own about 400 vinyl records consisting of mostly second hand 7" records.
The only new stuff are these 12" records of some of my favorite bands on the photo.
You can see my collection here on Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/user/Rob-Rowe95/collection?

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#7309 2 years ago
Quoted from rolandthoms:

I would recommend you increase your budget a little, at least.
Speakers $500-1500
Amplifier and pre-amp. $1000-2500
Record player. $500-1500
This is inexpensive compared to the expensive hobby of record collecting.
Pro-Ject make decent entry level turntables.

This really doesn't seem to be what this guy is looking for.

Let's be honest...shouldn't he consider spending $500 or so on an all-in-one, or a bluetooth record player he can hook up to something he already has and see if he actually likes it before dropping several K on a serious component setup?

Maybe something like this?

https://www.turntablelab.com/products/audio-technica-at-lp120x-spinbase-turntable-package?variant=32965758746714&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAiA3L6PBhBvEiwAINlJ9BIGAky-wWo5GdKPwhB0x2oGETSnyzOnI2jqFXL3JUky61L_WWvioRoCENgQAvD_BwE

Or, for under $300:
https://www.turntablelab.com/products/audio-technica-at-lp60xusb-edifier-r1280db-turntable-package-ttl-setup?variant=32880816455770&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAiA3L6PBhBvEiwAINlJ9Iqjnrlz2LFJgvdEtaGZGUBEAjXdRSUlfwyFK6b7NgV4iOdiFnV_8BoC0AIQAvD_BwE

They've got a whole page of these bundle setups over there at turntable lab, with numerous price points.

If he already has a component system going, yes, I'd point him in the direction of U-turn Orbit or something like that.

#7310 2 years ago

Yes, perhaps. It’s such an expensive hobby though. $300 is 10-15 records.

#7311 2 years ago
Quoted from rolandthoms:

Yes, perhaps. It’s such an expensive hobby though. $300 is 10-15 records.

COuld be...but you can still buy used "common" records at places for around 10 bucks per. Who knows what he's looking for...does he want to buy brand new $30 reissues exclusively, or is he going after easy to find vintage stuff? I picked up the entire Aerosmith catalog from their debut through Done With Mirrors for $10 an LP or less over the past 18 months through a pair of upstate NY record store visits, and it wasn't that tough to do. I'm sure you could do the same with a bunch of classic rock acts, even these days.

Foxxtone should think about what he's looking to do and what kind of system he wants and I think we'll be able to better point him in the right direction. Even if he's looking to build a component system, it shouldn't have to cost over $1,000, right? You can get a decent consumer receiver/amp (a low end Yamaha or something) for $300...should be able to get a decent pair of speakers for about the same or a little more...and a record player for around the same as well.

Not every setup needs to be an award-winner candidate. When you consider how truly shitty music sounds these days for most people (MP3s going through a cheap bluetooth speaker) I think he'd be pretty blown away by a vinyl component setup at under $1,000.

#7312 2 years ago

IF your budget is $300 my advice is to look for a Audio Tech in your area who does repairs and inquiring about a reconditioned Vintage unit.

AR, Dual, Pionerr and Technics are all good options and you should be able to find a nice Vintage TT for around $300.

#7313 2 years ago

A crappy turntable will be hard on your records.

#7314 2 years ago
Quoted from electricsquirrel:

A crappy turntable will be hard on your records.

Right, I wouldn't reccomend a $100 turntable.

For $200-300, you can certainly get a brand new or vintage record player that won't damage your vinyl.

#7315 2 years ago
Quoted from rolandthoms:

It’s such an expensive hobby though. $300 is 10-15 records.

$300 buys a lot of nice LPs if you hit up Yard Sales, Vinatge Swaps and Dollar Bins.

Most shops are smart enough to salt their Dollar Bins with a few finds every week.

#7316 2 years ago
Quoted from guitarded:

$300 buys a lot of nice LPs if you hit up Yard Sales, Vinatge Swaps and Dollar Bins.
Most shops are smart enough to salt their Dollar Bins with a few finds every week.

Correct!

I got my first copy of Bat Out of Hell (how did I miss that over the years?) and Deep Purple's Stormbringer for a couple bucks each fairly recently out of the bargain bins. They aren't the pride of the fleet but they sound good and look good enough.

For me, a lot of the allure of LPs has always been cheap music. It's not like it was back in the 90s when I built up the entire collections of bands like the Stones and Floyd for 99 cents an LP, but there's still tons of cheapish stuff out there. I don't buy brand new $30 LPs very often.

#7317 2 years ago

You don't have to spend a fortune on hi fi gear.
There is piles of stuff on Ebay and Craigslist.

I have less than $2000 tied up in my current system, and I think it sounds pretty good!

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#7318 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Right, I wouldn't reccomend a $100 turntable.
For $200-300, you can certainly get a brand new or vintage record player that won't damage your vinyl.

Yep, don't skimp on the turntable, lots of great new and vintage stuff on ebay in the 200-400 range.

#7319 2 years ago

Just to clarify, I'm just trying to get a realistic idea of what is needed for a basic setup. The $300 I threw out doesn't include the records. It's just a figure I felt was a realistic amount to spend starting out. I'm not exactly looking to spend $1,000, though no doubt it would buy a great setup. I Just want something decent to get my feet wet so to speak. I'm not against used either just looking for general recommendations to point me in the right direction.

#7320 2 years ago

Some examples of used record players I found, any of these worth checking out?

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#7321 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

Some examples of used record players I found, any of these worth checking out?
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Do you have a component system ready to go to plug the record player into? Do you have speakers and an amplifier?

#7322 2 years ago

I don't have anything yet at this point.

Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Do you have a component system ready to go to plug the record player into? Do you have speakers and an amplifier?

#7323 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

I don't have anything yet at this point.

Keep an eye on Facebook marketplace. You should be able to find a decent stereo reciever and speakers for fairly cheap if you're patient. Make sure the reciever has phono inputs and the surrounds on the speakers aren't shot. Places like goodwill usually have a rotating supply of old recievers and speakers as well. $300 isn't a lot to work with if you're looking for a complete setup, but it's doable if you look hard enough.

On the new end, $300 could possibly get you an AT bluetooth table and a set of monoprice bluetooth speakers, although that setup would be nothing special, it would at least let you get your feet wet.

#7324 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

Some examples of used record players I found, any of these worth checking out?
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I think I'd pass on those.

#7325 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

I don't have anything yet at this point.

The Philips is an excellent sounding vintage turntable available at at good price.
Often overlooked.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8rhscu

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#7326 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

I don't have anything yet at this point.

I have to be honest I think buying some used junk off craigslist or Facebook to cobble together a mismatched component system is a mistake. Buy something cheap, complete, NEW, and decent, and see what you think. You might get sick of vinyl in a month. Or you may think it rules and decide to start building a nice component system. But for now it seems like you should start cheap and easy:

Well, what do you think of this?

What do the Vinyl thread people think of this? Under 400 bucks:

https://www.turntablelab.com/products/audio-technica-at-lp60-turntable-kanto-yu4-speaker-package-ttl-setup?s=rec&w=p

#7327 2 years ago

I think Turntable Lab has an excellent selection over every price range. That setup looks like a pretty fair deal, especially if you're deciding if vinyl collecting is for you.

Heck, I bet Levi would tag along on a visit to the store!

#7328 2 years ago

I've been listening to both of these digitally for awhile, I decided to snag them on vinyl. I've been a NOFX fan since the 90's, I've seen them at least a couple times at Axis on Landsdowne St in Boston way back in the day.

West Coast vs Wessex is a brilliant idea, and a brilliant album. It's also what turned me on to Frank Turner who I'm now a big fan of. I desperately needed something new and out of my wheelhouse during the pandemic, and Frank Turner was it. NOFX covers Frank Turner Songs as if they were written by NOFX and vice versa.

The second I discovered a few weeks ago and can't get enough of. Cokie the Clown is Fat Mike from NOFX. it's not a joke, it's possibly the most serious, dark, honest and uncomfortable thing I've ever listened to. It's nothing like NOFX, it's very raw and very real. It takes a couple times through to get it. It's certainly not for everyone.

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#7329 2 years ago

Play some Elvis!

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#7330 2 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I have to be honest I think buying some used junk off craigslist or Facebook to cobble together a mismatched component system is a mistake. Buy some

I have to be honest I think buying some used junk off craigslist or Facebook to cobble together a mismatched component system is a mistake. Buy something cheap, complete, NEW, and decent, and see what you think. You might get sick of vinyl in a month. Or you may think it rules and decide to start building a nice component system. But for now it seems like you should start cheap and easy:
Well, what do you think of this?
What do the Vinyl thread people think of this? Under 400 bucks:
https://www.turntablelab.com/products/audio-technica-at-lp60-turntable-kanto-yu4-speaker-package-ttl-setup?s=rec&w=p

Thank, this is what I needed to know. I'm hesitant buying anything used because I know next to nothing about this stuff so used equipment could be an issue initially especially if it's not a complete set and I have to search for different things. I'd rather just buy everything all at once. Would best buy be a good option to look for equipment there?

#7331 2 years ago

Levi's idea above is probably the cheapest and easy way to go......

Even if it goes against all my vintage gear fetish instincts.....
Just looking at this depresses me....
But it's probably a good start.

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#7332 2 years ago

But I get it.... this might be my jam but not everyone.

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#7333 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

Levi's idea above is probably the cheapest and easy way to go.....

It has convenience going for it...but there is really no upgrade path.

Like I suggested earlier, find a local tech or two and hit them up for recoditioned gear. You will save n the long run and lose little if you decide to bail.

#7334 2 years ago
Quoted from guitarded:

It has convenience going for it...but there is really no upgrade path.
Like I suggested earlier, find a local tech or two and hit them up for recoditioned gear. You will save n the long run and lose little if you decide to bail.

True but those Bluetooth speakers and amplifeier will always be useful in one way or another. I have a pair of old speakers (not Bluetooth but whatever) in my shop now. The record player or the whole rig can be given to a niece or nephew who is starting out.

The “upgrade path” is start anew. $400 is not a lot of money to "lose" on a beginner setup.

#7335 2 years ago

There's no upgrading that setup, but starting out, with no knowledge of what you're looking for, it's probably the best way to go.

#7336 2 years ago

I do admit I have a direct drive in the living room. These Micro Seiki DD-35s can be had around the $300 price and it has been solid.

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#7337 2 years ago

If you do go the component route, Polk makes well built mid tier floor speakers the sti series is decent.
Amazon has a $350 for a pair of polk sti-300.

I brought a pair of Sti-500 a year ago for around $500 I like em.

And lots of good 70s recievers on ebay now, just search serviced vintage reciever.

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#7338 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

If you do go the component route, Polk makes well built mid tier floor speakers the sti series is decent.
Amazon has a $350 for a pair of polk sti-300.
I brought a pair of Sti-500 a year ago for around $500 I like em.
And lots of good 70s recievers on ebay now, just search serviced vintage reciever.
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I love vintage gear but I can't sacrifice a remote control for one. I need to be able to operate the hi-fi from the couch!

I used my dad's cool 70s Yamaha receiver for years, ended up bringing to my shop for a while before it croaked. At home I need a remote control.

#7339 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

If you do go the component route, Polk makes well built mid tier floor speakers the sti series is decent.
Amazon has a $350 for a pair of polk sti-300.

If you don’t have the space for those, Polk makes some nice bookshelf speakers that sound just fine. $69 for a pair on Amazon right now. You would need to get a subwoofer but there is a 10” powered Polk subwoofer on Amazon for $129. Those together sound great. That’s a lot of value for $200. Add a U-Turn Orbit for $200 and you are at $400. Add an Onkyo Bluetooth enabled receiver (100W) for $249 on Amazon and you have a pretty sweet set up for $650. Simple, easy, done.

PS. They also come with remotes.

#7340 2 years ago

Thanks for all the suggestions. There is a second hand vinyl record store in the city I'm currently working in so I'm probably going to check that out today and see what they have there, if nothing else I'll probably look into crazylevis ' setup he posted. To be honest, I'm no purist. Vintage is fine but I would be ok with new, just want something that is easy to use and sounds good. Can't get anymore subjective than that huh? I'll post what I end up getting or if I have further questions, thanks for the help guys.

#7341 2 years ago

An Afternoon of Ravel, makes me long for summer.
Rapsodie Espagnole...... La Valise...Pavane pour une infante Défunte.

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#7342 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

Thanks for all the suggestions. There is a second hand vinyl record store in the city I'm currently working in so I'm probably going to check that out today and see what they have there, if nothing else I'll probably look into crazylevis ' setup he posted. To be honest, I'm no purist. Vintage is fine but I would be ok with new, just want something that is easy to use and sounds good. Can't get anymore subjective than that huh? I'll post what I end up getting or if I have further questions, thanks for the help guys.

Best of luck. You probably said something similar when you started buying pinballs..... Well here you are.

#7343 2 years ago

Seriously, another comment on the enjoyability (is that a word?) that you will experience is the long standing truism:
Quality in - Quality out.

Your source of audio input will be just as equally affected by the quality of your audio output.
A stylus is not just a needle and a speaker is not just a box.

Visit a few good quality A/V stores if you have them and get an idea of what sounds like what.

Happy Listening!

#7344 2 years ago

'Cause I speak of the pompatus of love

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#7345 2 years ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

If you do go the component route, Polk makes well built mid tier floor speakers the sti series is decent.

Loved me some Polk many years! (:

#7346 2 years ago

Just got back from the record store, pretty cool place, ridiculous amounts of records,cds, and DVDs. Plus they had a data east playboy sitting in the corner, it was turned off and a bit dusty. The hipster working at the store couldn't tell me anything about it so I'm guessing it's was just there for decoration. Anyways, they recommended me a few different setups. The one was a new turn table, with a built in preamp (sorry I didn't get the brand), and then of course speakers. The whole setup was $120 for the record player and $69 for speakers. The other setup he recommended was Spindeck/w spinbase speakers. It looked pretty cool and I liked how the turn table sat on the speaker. $500 total for this. I didn't buy anything today. I wanted to think on it for a bit.

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#7347 2 years ago

Last night the wife said, "Oh boy, when you're dead
You don't take nothing with you but your soul
Think"

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#7348 2 years ago

The drink above would cost you $60 in a bar. $69 speakers would be forgotten just as quickly.

Please don't take offense. Keep doing research. It will indeed pay off.

#7349 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

Just got back from the record store, pretty cool place, ridiculous amounts of records,cds, and DVDs. Plus they had a data east playboy sitting in the corner, it was turned off and a bit dusty. The hipster working at the store couldn't tell me anything about it so I'm guessing it's was just there for decoration. Anyways, they recommended me a few different setups. The one was a new turn table, with a built in preamp (sorry I didn't get the brand), and then of course speakers. The whole setup was $120 for the record player and $69 for speakers. The other setup he recommended was Spindeck/w spinbase speakers. It looked pretty cool and I liked how the turn table sat on the speaker. $500 total for this. I didn't buy anything today. I wanted to think on it for a bit.
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Did they give you. Demo? How did it sound?

The $500 setup seems like a nice compact and good looking starter kit.

#7350 2 years ago
Quoted from Foxxstone_80:

Just got back from the record store, pretty cool place, ridiculous amounts of records,cds, and DVDs. Plus they had a data east playboy sitting in the corner, it was turned off and a bit dusty. The hipster working at the store couldn't tell me anything about it so I'm guessing it's was just there for decoration. Anyways, they recommended me a few different setups. The one was a new turn table, with a built in preamp (sorry I didn't get the brand), and then of course speakers. The whole setup was $120 for the record player and $69 for speakers. The other setup he recommended was Spindeck/w spinbase speakers. It looked pretty cool and I liked how the turn table sat on the speaker. $500 total for this. I didn't buy anything today. I wanted to think on it for a bit.
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I would avoid anything that sits on the speakers. Vibration is bad.

My friend just bought a similar audio technica. It's by no means high end, but it seems to do ok paired with the monoprice bluetooth speakers he bought for it. For the price, it's a decent sounding setup.

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