The watermarks are something I hated doing but I spent so much money on some of these that I feared people might copy them all and then I would regret spending so much time Photoshopping them all. That's why I tried hiding them best I could, you cracked me up with the where's waldo remark . But I've been trying to get more liberal with some of them and leave the watermark off on the newer stuff and ones that aren't so rare. I never got into collecting the press photos, think I only have BMX, don't know why, I just decided to stick with the flyers, Sam Harvey has quite a few, I speak to him often and we "talk flyers", the man is a walking encyclopedia of pinball and never fails to have a good joke every time we speak.

OK that Some of the ones you listed, I sort of think of as different versions like The Games, or UFO X (thought I had that) Hot Wheels, etc, but ones like Futbol or Saturn interest me more because I don't have them. That Zaccaria Strike is classic, love the way the older or foreign flyers use different terms like pin-table, or the different terms used over the years for pop bumpers and flippers like "player controlled kicking rubbers" or "skill flip it buttons". The flyer collectors ring was shut down years ago, that's why I started mine, I have plans to make it easier to use, a little glitch prevents the info from showing up if people don't fill out all the fields but I plan on fixing these things. BTW, I don't mind at all, if people want to link up to certain flyers or use or print the images, again I'm just sorry about the watermarks, so link/print away.

P.S edit: the comment 'single postcard-sized circuit board' on Mac's galaxy came from the IPDB, I always try to put some sort of comment for each flyer and if I can't find anything good to say I sometimes have to rely on what the IPDB says. Don't remember where I got all the Japanese ones but probably in a trade long ago. Most of my flyers came from guys like Pacak, Kurtz, Mayfair, trades with guys like Sam Harvey and others, but many came from Ebay, the rare ones get pricey if someone else wants it as bad as you, I would never admit how much I spent on some of them.

I think I saw a BLY Spectrum press photo in amongst your archive.
And yes Sam Harvey knows just about everything pinball and its history
and associated paperwork, and always has a good joke to tell.
He has binders full of info that needs to be archived, but Sam does not do computers.

Yes your right, I think I got the press photo for Spectrum, a pretty rare flyer, but again, very few press photos in my collection. I'm glad Sam doesn't do computers, one less person to bid against but nothing makes me happier, than to call Sam and tell him I have a spare flyer that he needs. G*D DAMMIT YOU SON OF A BITCH, HOW DID YOU GET THAT???? I'm currently taunting him with a Bally Round Up he needs, problem is, he doesn't have anything I need

BTW, I'm open to trades, don't hesitate to email me

Don't know why it closed, think it was part of the "ring" thing that just sort of disappeared. I do have interest in the MSN flyers if you want to email i'll send you my trade list. Regretfully I haven't updated it in a long time, one of those things I never seem to find time for, but I'll send you my current one if you want to give it a try.
[email protected]

oops double post

You got Sam, down pat.
He ain't happy unless he has got something to moan and groan about.
While Sam may not have the Round Up flyer,
i think he does have the actual pin game Bally Round UP.

The circle of serious pinball flyer collectors is fairly small
( at least the ones that try to collect more than what games they actually own),
that i fear that i will never recoup my investment.
I did not really collect or buy them as an investment,
It was more the pack rat in me, and just the collecting bug addiction
that got me to try to expend the collection to the degree that i did.
But if you figure i have at least 800 flyers
and all are worth at least a minimum of $2-3 a pop,
thats about $2000 right there.
And I would say its fair to assume
that anything pre DMD era has got to be about $4-5 a pop
and 1970 era EMs about $5-10 a piece
1950-60s era EMs $10-20 each and some select few worth $50-100;
that means my collection should be worth $5000-6000,
if i tried to sell them cheap and fast ;
and probably worth up to $8000-10000,
if i sold them piece by piece and held out for near top dollar,
keeping in mind,
that i would not want to let the selling process drag out too long
and most of my flyers are in very good condition.
I have not really kept close track to what i paid for each flyer over the years,
but i got the feeling it was well over $8000, for what i managed to accumulate.
Better not let my wife read this !!

IS my forecast being too conservative
or is it more wishful thinking,
to hope for some profit (or recovery) ?
Again my collection is fairly complete from 1960 thru the modern era,
(Plus about some 40 odd woodrail era flyers),
with exception of missing some of the really rare flyers and most of the GTB Italian flyers.
You saw my want list posted earlier (to get an idea of what i do or don't have).
cheers tom

Buy low, sell high, works no matter what you collect. With that said, it's hard to make a case for flyers being an investment, but if you buy them at the right price, and hold onto them long enough, they might be worth more than you paid for them. Problem is, you'll have to sell them one at a time, no one is going to buy a big collection as a whole. Collect something you love and you'll never go wrong, even if they become worthless on a monetary basis, you'll still have something you enjoy. If you collect something as an investment and don't really like them, if it goes down in value, your left with nothing.

When I caught the collecting bug, I actually bought most of my collection in bulk. I couldn't get Mike Pacak to sell through mail/email so I went to the York Show and cornered him and bought a few hundred at one time. I did the same with a few other people, then I sort of filled in the ones I was missing from ebay and trading. A lot of the ones I bought in bulk many years ago are worth a lot more than I paid for them. A lot of the rare ones from ebay I overpaid for but that's how it goes on ebay if someone else wants it too.

I have no idea why there is no English version of I.M but I don't think it exists, I think same for Bally Spectrum and a few others. I saw some wanted lists previously and many of those flyers don't exist, If you want me to help with those lists I can go back and make notes on which ones I think exist and which don't? I don't mind talking about flyers and it's nice to see some people are actually looking at them, I wondered sometimes if I scanned them all for nothing but guys like you and Tom (one of my bigger flyer fans are giving me hope.

Yah Raphael Lankar is an old timer from France who I traded with many years ago, don't think he trades anymore or might have sold his collection, not sure if he ever opened that museum. Big collection of machines. Another Frenchman Bernard Marraou(sp?) had a HUGE and amazing collection, (still sells a few here & there), sold most of the rare ones and I think uses the money to travel and have a good time those Europeans know how to live )) but his passion was always jukebox flyers. Bought a lot of rare ones from him at high prices,(most through ebay) he sure didn't give them away.........

I find this thread fascinating...thanks for sharing your journeys.

Do either of you by chance have duplicates of a CFTBL flyer: it's black and white with the gal laying down on one side of the pin and the Creech on the other? Let me know. I missed out on this on eBay and would be interested in purchasing. FWIW, I did quickly scan the site in the link provided above, but didn't see it.

Mike

Yeah, I have that one. ...let me see if I can dig up a photo.

Ugh, my mistake...it's a poster not a flyer. Still cool though.

...hopefully now with pic:

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I went to Paris back in Oct 2012, and visit Raphael's pinball museum.
Very hospitable fellow, very nice collection of GTB Wood rails and some early 60's wedgeheads.
I have bought flyers from all the fellows you guys have mentioned (from Europe) in the past,
along with Mike Pacak and Bill Kurtz and mffe on ebay etc.
I am glad that i have finally gotten nearly all the flyers on my wish list,
as it was time consuming getting to that point.
Now all the ones left on my want list are all very rare, I think you both would agree,
and would probably cost at least $50 each to get them, if i ever found them,
unless i found some flyer stash somewhere from someone who did not really know what they had.

NYP : thanks for your input on what you think about flyers,
existing or not or only as promo press photo or possibly trade mag ad.

FYI : Misc cocktail table flyer
Circus Circus, I think you have one your NYP website (Coffemat/Century)

Well I don't but I would like to have some of the games I own and used to own and frame them on the wall somewhere

Is there any chance of getting a high quality PDF or jpg file of flyers

here are some proof of some of the Allied flyers that you were not certain about,
these are copies that i have found over the years of searching internet files.

boogie-1976-f-1.jpg entertainer-1977-f-2.jpg _T.N.T.flyer.jpg jokers_wild.jpg _Wizard__press_photo.jpg hawaiian_isle_flyer.jpg

SOOOooo Pinballslave, what do I have to do to pry that Aerobatics from your hands? I'm glad to hear Raphael is doing well and had his museum open. I almost forgot about Riffard, he had the same flyers over and over but they were cheap. Wish I had the ones Tom posted, especially Hawaiian Isle. Pinballgeek, you can print mine, they are scanned at 300 DPI and pretty high quality, as long as you don't mind the where's waldo watermark. That B & W creech pic is awesome, isn't that the real actress from the movie/backglass?

...it certainly looks like her.

Hey good.

That last one looks like the Nanny, Fran Drescher